Re: Jail Resource Limits for 6.x ...

2007-04-19 Thread Miroslav Lachman

Robert Watson wrote:


On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Miroslav Lachman wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> Is anyone looking into merging in the patch available at:



  

That provides both memory and cpu limits on a jail?  It appears to be 
against REL_6 from last years SOC ...


Is anyone using it in production anywhere?



I got same question + one more. Why there are SoC projects, which 
never come in to src tree or wider publicity? Sometimes it is like 
wasting of human resources... ;(



Summer of Code projects are student projects funded by Google for a 
summer. Many of the project proposals are significantly more ambitious 
than a single summer, and take much longer to come to fruition -- often 
being merged in the winter, the next spring, or even a summer or two 
later.  Not all projects are even intended to lead directly to 
commitable code: some are effectively R&D projects to understand new 
areas of work.  However, we have a fairly high success rate in getting 
things committed within a year or so: remember, things need time for 
testing, review, revision, etc, and this requires a significant effort 
by the students, their mentors, and the project as a whole over a very 
extended period of time.


Per the recent announcement on the freebsd-announce mailing list and on 
the web site, you can learn more about the SoC projects by visiting the 
FreeBSD web page, and also the FreeBSD wiki which contains more detailed 
information on each project:


http://www.freebsd.org/projects/summerofcode-2007.html

http://wiki.freebsd.org//SummerOfCode2007

The 2007 SoC season has barely begun, as the official start date is at 
the end of May.  However, many students have started, and already put 
information about their projects online.


I understand. But from my point of view - there is lack of PR (Public 
Relations) for those projects and patches. Somebody did patch with new / 
experimental features and almost nobody knows about it. And even if 
somebody find the patch / webpage about some project, there is date from 
last summer so project seems dead without future or patch can't be 
applied to current sources.
So I thing FreeBSD needs some central place for these informations - 
maybe called "Experimental Area" with informations + patches + 
up-to-date statuses, list of testers, list of bugs / successes, list of 
untested things etc. So one can easily find / try / test / fix / help 
with any of "useful" things around FreeBSD not included in STABLE or 
CURRENT.
I thing some Wiki engine + mailinglist + reminders would be useful for 
this. Any thoughts?
At this time, some things are on SoC pages, some on personal pages of 
FreeBSD developers and some on the other hard to find places.


Miroslav Lachman
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Re: Jail Resource Limits for 6.x ...

2007-04-19 Thread Robert Watson


On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Miroslav Lachman wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> Is anyone looking into merging in the patch available at:


  

That provides both memory and cpu limits on a jail?  It appears to be 
against REL_6 from last years SOC ...


Is anyone using it in production anywhere?


I got same question + one more. Why there are SoC projects, which never come 
in to src tree or wider publicity? Sometimes it is like wasting of human 
resources... ;(


Summer of Code projects are student projects funded by Google for a summer. 
Many of the project proposals are significantly more ambitious than a single 
summer, and take much longer to come to fruition -- often being merged in the 
winter, the next spring, or even a summer or two later.  Not all projects are 
even intended to lead directly to commitable code: some are effectively R&D 
projects to understand new areas of work.  However, we have a fairly high 
success rate in getting things committed within a year or so: remember, things 
need time for testing, review, revision, etc, and this requires a significant 
effort by the students, their mentors, and the project as a whole over a very 
extended period of time.


Per the recent announcement on the freebsd-announce mailing list and on the 
web site, you can learn more about the SoC projects by visiting the FreeBSD 
web page, and also the FreeBSD wiki which contains more detailed information 
on each project:


http://www.freebsd.org/projects/summerofcode-2007.html

http://wiki.freebsd.org//SummerOfCode2007

The 2007 SoC season has barely begun, as the official start date is at the end 
of May.  However, many students have started, and already put information 
about their projects online.


Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge
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Re: Jail Resource Limits for 6.x ...

2007-04-18 Thread Miroslav Lachman

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 > Is anyone looking into merging in the patch available at:


  

That provides both memory and cpu limits on a jail?  It appears to be against 
REL_6 from last years SOC ...


Is anyone using it in production anywhere?


- 
Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)


I got same question + one more. Why there are SoC projects, which never 
come in to src tree or wider publicity? Sometimes it is like wasting of 
human resources... ;(


Miroslav Lachman
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