Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Monday 31 July 2006 09:35, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> John Baldwin wrote:
> > Mike Jakubik wrote:
> > > I tried that, unfortunately it does not work. All i want to know is if
> > > this a shortcoming of freebsd or the motherboard, if its the later, i
> > > will contact the manufacturer.
> >
> > If ACPI doesn't include the sysctl's that's due to your BIOS, not
FreeBSD.
> > You can verify by doing an acpidump and seeing if you have any thermal
> > zones listed in your ASL.
>
> I have a similar problem. This is what sysctl says:
>
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 8.3C
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 9.8C
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 31.3C
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
> dev.acpi_tz.0.%desc: Thermal Zone
> dev.acpi_tz.0.%driver: acpi_tz
> dev.acpi_tz.0.%location: handle=\_TZ_.THM0
> dev.acpi_tz.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
>
> The value of tz0.temperature is always 8.3C and never seems
> to change. In reality it should be rathe 20C and change
> slightly during day and night.
>
> This is an excerpt from "acpidump -d" on that machine, which
> seems to imply that it _should_ support thermal readings
> (but I'm not a low-level ACPI expert):
>
> Scope (_TZ)
> {
> Name (\TEMP, 0x0AFF)
> ThermalZone (THM0)
> {
> Name (_TSP, 0x3C)
> Name (_TC1, 0x04)
> Name (_TC2, 0x04)
> Name (_PSL, Package (0x01)
> {
> \_PR.CPU0
> })
> Method (_PSV, 0, NotSerialized)
> {
> Store ("_PSV Method", Debug)
> Return (0x0B0E)
> }
> Method (_SCP, 1, NotSerialized)
> {
> Notify (THM0, 0x81)
> }
> Method (_TMP, 0, NotSerialized)
> {
> Store ("_TMP Method", Debug)
> Return (TEMP)
> }
> Method (_CRT, 0, NotSerialized)
> {
> Store ("_CRT Method", Debug)
> Return (0x0BE5)
> }
> }
> }
>
> Is it a bug in the ACPI BIOS or a bug in FreeBSD code?
Well, your _TMP method just returns the TEMP constant. It may be that your
BIOS is supposed to be overwriting the TEMP constant periodically. It's not
a bug in FreeBSD though.
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Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
John Baldwin wrote:
> Mike Jakubik wrote:
> > I tried that, unfortunately it does not work. All i want to know is if
> > this a shortcoming of freebsd or the motherboard, if its the later, i
> > will contact the manufacturer.
>
> If ACPI doesn't include the sysctl's that's due to your BIOS, not FreeBSD.
> You can verify by doing an acpidump and seeing if you have any thermal
> zones listed in your ASL.
I have a similar problem. This is what sysctl says:
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 8.3C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 9.8C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 31.3C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
dev.acpi_tz.0.%desc: Thermal Zone
dev.acpi_tz.0.%driver: acpi_tz
dev.acpi_tz.0.%location: handle=\_TZ_.THM0
dev.acpi_tz.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
The value of tz0.temperature is always 8.3C and never seems
to change. In reality it should be rathe 20C and change
slightly during day and night.
This is an excerpt from "acpidump -d" on that machine, which
seems to imply that it _should_ support thermal readings
(but I'm not a low-level ACPI expert):
Scope (_TZ)
{
Name (\TEMP, 0x0AFF)
ThermalZone (THM0)
{
Name (_TSP, 0x3C)
Name (_TC1, 0x04)
Name (_TC2, 0x04)
Name (_PSL, Package (0x01)
{
\_PR.CPU0
})
Method (_PSV, 0, NotSerialized)
{
Store ("_PSV Method", Debug)
Return (0x0B0E)
}
Method (_SCP, 1, NotSerialized)
{
Notify (THM0, 0x81)
}
Method (_TMP, 0, NotSerialized)
{
Store ("_TMP Method", Debug)
Return (TEMP)
}
Method (_CRT, 0, NotSerialized)
{
Store ("_CRT Method", Debug)
Return (0x0BE5)
}
}
}
Is it a bug in the ACPI BIOS or a bug in FreeBSD code?
Best regards
Oliver
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Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Jul 28, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 7/26/06, David Duchscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, the Supermicro PDSMi supports the IPMI 2.0 module and I can confirm that it works with the IPMI ported driver from current on 6.1. The module is optional so you will have to purchase one for the system, around 0. You will also need the latest BIOS loaded on the motherboard for it to work. http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm What about their other IPMI 2.0 cards: http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/SIM.cfm Specifically the AOC-SIMLP? and what ported IPMI driver are we talking about? Also does anyone have an IPMI primer, I've never used it before? I haven't used the cards listed there so I can really comment on how well they work or if they work. I would assume the cards with their own ethernet jack will work no matter what OS is on the system. The problems that have cropped up with the integrated or add-in modules is that the OS network driver can cut off access to the IPMI module. For example, the IPMI module with the bge driver use to do that, not sure if that has been fixed. I have also noticed today that communication to the IPMI module is lost when the em driver initializes the network device and doesn't come back until the interface is brought up by the OS. If you have no networking configured, no network access to the IPMI module. :) As for the IPMI driver, it is not necessary for the OS to have an IPMI driver unless you wish to communicate with the card outside of using the network. The IPMI driver I am using is in ports/ipmi-kmod and is a port of the driver in current. I have no idea if it supports those cards. -- DaveD
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On 7/26/06, David Duchscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:51:25AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: >> I need to be able to get the cpu and fan information from my >> motherboard, however none of the monitoring utilities in the ports >> seems >> to support my motherboard (Supermicro PDSMi, Intel E7230 (Mukilteo) >> Chipset). On my older VIA based motherboards and some Nvidia, i >> can get >> this information using ACPI and the hw.acpi.thermal sysctl. This >> however >> is not available on this motherboard. Would this be a shortcoming >> of the >> motherboards ACPI implementation, or a lack of support by freebsd? > > Does this one support IPMI? Yes, the Supermicro PDSMi supports the IPMI 2.0 module and I can confirm that it works with the IPMI ported driver from current on 6.1. The module is optional so you will have to purchase one for the system, around 0. You will also need the latest BIOS loaded on the motherboard for it to work. http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm What about their other IPMI 2.0 cards: http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/SIM.cfm Specifically the AOC-SIMLP? and what ported IPMI driver are we talking about? Also does anyone have an IPMI primer, I've never used it before? -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
yeeeh, me too need this cooling stuff! :) please, tell me, where to find info about ACPI in FreeBSD on E7520 chip-set my MB is SuperMicro X6-DH8XG2 thanx ... 2006/7/28, Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Spartak Radchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > router# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal > [...] > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: -257.-1C > > If I understand it correctly, the current temperature is -257C, or 16 > degrees from absolute zero. > Motherboard is Via MS8000. Now that's _really_ cool. What kind of cooling equipment do you have, and how much did it cost? I need that stuff, too ... probably enables you to overclock to 10 GHz or something ... SCRN :-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "... there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are _obviously_ no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no _obvious_ deficiencies."-- C.A.R. Hoare, ACM Turing Award Lecture, 1980 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Spartak Radchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > router# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal > [...] > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: -257.-1C > > If I understand it correctly, the current temperature is -257C, or 16 > degrees from absolute zero. > Motherboard is Via MS8000. Now that's _really_ cool. What kind of cooling equipment do you have, and how much did it cost? I need that stuff, too ... probably enables you to overclock to 10 GHz or something ... SCRN :-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "... there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are _obviously_ no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no _obvious_ deficiencies."-- C.A.R. Hoare, ACM Turing Award Lecture, 1980 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Friday 28 July 2006 10:51, Spartak Radchenko wrote: > John Baldwin ?: > > If ACPI doesn't include the sysctl's that's due to your BIOS, not FreeBSD. > > You can verify by doing an acpidump and seeing if you have any thermal > > zones listed in your ASL. > What if there is a thermal zone, but sysctl returns meaningless numbers? > > router# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: -257.-1C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 50.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 60.0C > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 50.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 > > If I understand it correctly, the current temperature is -257C, or 16 > degrees from absolute zero. > Motherboard is Via MS8000. Well, that means your BIOS has a different sort of issue. It probably has a bogus _TMP method. That's still going to be your BIOS' fault. The temperature value is defined in the standard to be in units of .1 K. So a raw value of 160 would give 16.0 K, or the value you are seeing. -- John Baldwin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
John Baldwin ?: If ACPI doesn't include the sysctl's that's due to your BIOS, not FreeBSD. You can verify by doing an acpidump and seeing if you have any thermal zones listed in your ASL. What if there is a thermal zone, but sysctl returns meaningless numbers? router# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: -257.-1C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 50.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 60.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 50.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 If I understand it correctly, the current temperature is -257C, or 16 degrees from absolute zero. Motherboard is Via MS8000. -- Spartak Radchenko SVR1-RIPE ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Thursday 27 July 2006 02:25, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Jiawei Ye wrote: > > On 7/27/06, Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the > >> temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple > >> and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. > > What about using SMBus? Is it available on your system? xmbmon reads > > temperatures off the SMBus IIRC. > > I tried that, unfortunately it does not work. All i want to know is if > this a shortcoming of freebsd or the motherboard, if its the later, i > will contact the manufacturer. If ACPI doesn't include the sysctl's that's due to your BIOS, not FreeBSD. You can verify by doing an acpidump and seeing if you have any thermal zones listed in your ASL. -- John Baldwin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Someone mentionned that you can't reach the smbus on ASUS boards. That's because they turn it off in the BIOS. They turn it on and off as they need to read stuff for their SMI (well on some of their boards at least). you can turn it on again using pciconf. but I forget the exact incantation. (I've asked someone to send me the script so I'll have it later if anyone wants it) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x618015d9 chip=0x24d38086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller' class= serial bus subclass = SMBus 2006/7/27, Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Ducrot wrote: > > Could you please try (if you have a working smb device) > > # smbmsg -p > > Well, i don't think its being detected/supported. I tried loading all > the smbus related kernel modules, but no device. > > Id Refs AddressSize Name > 19 0xc040 2d1624 kernel > 21 0xc06d2000 606acacpi.ko > 33 0xc4dca000 2000 smbus.ko > 41 0xc4dcc000 3000 iicsmb.ko > 53 0xc4dcf000 3000 iicbus.ko > 61 0xc4de4000 3000 smb.ko > 71 0xc4df3000 3000 iic.ko > 81 0xc4df6000 3000 if_ic.ko You should also try to load these kernel modules: alpm.ko, amdpm.ko, intpm.ko, viapm.ko > However, dmesg seems to show that there is a SMBus device on the MB. > pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) If none of the mentioned modules attach, please look at the output from "pciconf -lv". What's the entry for your SMBus device (pci0:31:3)? Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. (On the statement print "42 monkeys" + "1 snake":) By the way, both perl and Python get this wrong. Perl gives 43 and Python gives "42 monkeys1 snake", when the answer is clearly "41 monkeys and 1 fat snake".-- Jim Fulton ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Well, here are the patch results. The controller is detected: ichsmb0: port 0x1100-0x111f irq 19 at device 31.3 on pci0 ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED] smbus0: on ichsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 However communication does not seem to work: # smbmsg -p Probing for devices on /dev/smb0: Device @0x30: rw Device @0x32: rw ^C ichsmb0: device timeout, status=0x41 ichsmb0: device timeout, status=0x41 ichsmb0: device timeout, status=0x41 I also tried running mbmon using SMB, however this is the result: # mbmon -S No SMBus HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 Without any options, i get bogus temp values: # mbmon Temp.= 208.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.=0,0,0 Vcore = 3.62, 3.62; Volt. = 3.62, 5.21, 11.80, 1.13, 2.09 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Jung-uk Kim wrote: FYI, see kern/85106: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=85106 Great, i will try the patch shortly. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Bruno Ducrot wrote: It should be ichsmb with a ich7 southbridge IIRC, but there is a missing pci id onto sys/ichsmb/ichsmb_pci.c, (it should be 0x27da8086). Maybe the ich7 isn't supported yet. I don't have time to check more ATM. I'll look intel specs tomorrow. It indeed is a ich7. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:31:3:class=0x0c0500 card=0x798015d9 chip=0x27da8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller' class= serial bus subclass = SMBus Thanks for taking an interest guys, let me know how i can help. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Thursday 27 July 2006 12:13 pm, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > It should be ichsmb with a ich7 southbridge IIRC, but there is a > missing pci id onto sys/ichsmb/ichsmb_pci.c, (it should be > 0x27da8086). > > Maybe the ich7 isn't supported yet. I don't have time to check > more ATM. I'll look intel specs tomorrow. FYI, see kern/85106: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=85106 Jung-uk Kim ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:09:51AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Bruno Ducrot wrote: > >Could you please try (if you have a working smb device) > > > ># smbmsg -p > > > > Well, i don't think its being detected/supported. I tried loading all > the smbus related kernel modules, but no device. > > Id Refs AddressSize Name > 19 0xc040 2d1624 kernel > 21 0xc06d2000 606acacpi.ko > 33 0xc4dca000 2000 smbus.ko > 41 0xc4dcc000 3000 iicsmb.ko > 53 0xc4dcf000 3000 iicbus.ko > 61 0xc4de4000 3000 smb.ko > 71 0xc4df3000 3000 iic.ko > 81 0xc4df6000 3000 if_ic.ko > > However, dmesg seems to show that there is a SMBus device on the MB. > > pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) > It should be ichsmb with a ich7 southbridge IIRC, but there is a missing pci id onto sys/ichsmb/ichsmb_pci.c, (it should be 0x27da8086). Maybe the ich7 isn't supported yet. I don't have time to check more ATM. I'll look intel specs tomorrow. -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Ducrot wrote: > > Could you please try (if you have a working smb device) > > # smbmsg -p > > Well, i don't think its being detected/supported. I tried loading all > the smbus related kernel modules, but no device. > > Id Refs AddressSize Name > 19 0xc040 2d1624 kernel > 21 0xc06d2000 606acacpi.ko > 33 0xc4dca000 2000 smbus.ko > 41 0xc4dcc000 3000 iicsmb.ko > 53 0xc4dcf000 3000 iicbus.ko > 61 0xc4de4000 3000 smb.ko > 71 0xc4df3000 3000 iic.ko > 81 0xc4df6000 3000 if_ic.ko You should also try to load these kernel modules: alpm.ko, amdpm.ko, intpm.ko, viapm.ko > However, dmesg seems to show that there is a SMBus device on the MB. > pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) If none of the mentioned modules attach, please look at the output from "pciconf -lv". What's the entry for your SMBus device (pci0:31:3)? Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. (On the statement print "42 monkeys" + "1 snake":) By the way, both perl and Python get this wrong. Perl gives 43 and Python gives "42 monkeys1 snake", when the answer is clearly "41 monkeys and 1 fat snake".-- Jim Fulton ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Bruno Ducrot wrote: Could you please try (if you have a working smb device) # smbmsg -p Well, i don't think its being detected/supported. I tried loading all the smbus related kernel modules, but no device. Id Refs AddressSize Name 19 0xc040 2d1624 kernel 21 0xc06d2000 606acacpi.ko 33 0xc4dca000 2000 smbus.ko 41 0xc4dcc000 3000 iicsmb.ko 53 0xc4dcf000 3000 iicbus.ko 61 0xc4de4000 3000 smb.ko 71 0xc4df3000 3000 iic.ko 81 0xc4df6000 3000 if_ic.ko However, dmesg seems to show that there is a SMBus device on the MB. pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 03:31:56PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 02:52:53PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > >>David Duchscher wrote: > >>>On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > Does this one support IPMI? > >>>Yes, the Supermicro PDSMi supports the IPMI 2.0 module and I can > >>>confirm that it works with the IPMI ported driver from current on > >>>6.1. The module is optional so you will have to purchase one for > >>>the system, around 0. You will also need the latest BIOS loaded on > >>>the motherboard for it to work. > >>> > >>>http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm > >>I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the > >>temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple > >>and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. > > > >Have you tried ports/sysutils/mbmon? > > > >It can try to get the values in different ways, e.g. accessing the chip > >directly, smbus or isa. It is easily scriptable. I use it in combination > >with gnuplot in a shell-script to make a graph of the CPU and > >motherboard temperatures; > >http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html#monitor > > > >Roland > > I did and it only worked for my on an ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe. ASUS > A8N32-SLI Deluxe evidently uses another IO chip (or e newer revision) > and on my lab's i386 ASUS P800 system I have the same problem, neither > ACPI, smbus nor anything else seems to work or obtain temperature/fan speed. > > It's funny, on those boxes xmbmon/mbmon worked fine I also saw ACPI > thermal zones and fan speed (expecially my older ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe). My ASUS K8V DeLuxe doesn't work with ACPI; there is no hw.acpi.thermal sysctl. The only thing that seems to work is mbmon via the ISA interface. Trying SMBus gives nonsense values. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpxSTzA0fFyl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 02:52:53PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: David Duchscher wrote: On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Bruno Ducrot wrote: Does this one support IPMI? Yes, the Supermicro PDSMi supports the IPMI 2.0 module and I can confirm that it works with the IPMI ported driver from current on 6.1. The module is optional so you will have to purchase one for the system, around 0. You will also need the latest BIOS loaded on the motherboard for it to work. http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. Have you tried ports/sysutils/mbmon? It can try to get the values in different ways, e.g. accessing the chip directly, smbus or isa. It is easily scriptable. I use it in combination with gnuplot in a shell-script to make a graph of the CPU and motherboard temperatures; http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html#monitor Roland I did and it only worked for my on an ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe. ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe evidently uses another IO chip (or e newer revision) and on my lab's i386 ASUS P800 system I have the same problem, neither ACPI, smbus nor anything else seems to work or obtain temperature/fan speed. It's funny, on those boxes xmbmon/mbmon worked fine I also saw ACPI thermal zones and fan speed (expecially my older ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe). ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Jiawei Ye wrote: On 7/27/06, Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. What about using SMBus? Is it available on your system? xmbmon reads temperatures off the SMBus IIRC. Jiawei Ye But also not working on ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe or at my lab's ASUS P800! On ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe xmbmon worked fine! SMBus never worked on any ASUS, don't know why. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 02:52:53PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > David Duchscher wrote: > > > >On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Bruno Ducrot wrote: > >>Does this one support IPMI? > > > >Yes, the Supermicro PDSMi supports the IPMI 2.0 module and I can > >confirm that it works with the IPMI ported driver from current on > >6.1. The module is optional so you will have to purchase one for > >the system, around 0. You will also need the latest BIOS loaded on > >the motherboard for it to work. > > > >http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm > > I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the > temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple > and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. Have you tried ports/sysutils/mbmon? It can try to get the values in different ways, e.g. accessing the chip directly, smbus or isa. It is easily scriptable. I use it in combination with gnuplot in a shell-script to make a graph of the CPU and motherboard temperatures; http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html#monitor Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpZq4RCMHy7l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 02:25:19AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Jiawei Ye wrote: > >On 7/27/06, Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the > >>temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple > >>and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. > >What about using SMBus? Is it available on your system? xmbmon reads > >temperatures off the SMBus IIRC. > > I tried that, unfortunately it does not work. All i want to know is if > this a shortcoming of freebsd or the motherboard, if its the later, i > will contact the manufacturer. Could you please try (if you have a working smb device) # smbmsg -p -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Jiawei Ye wrote: On 7/27/06, Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. What about using SMBus? Is it available on your system? xmbmon reads temperatures off the SMBus IIRC. I tried that, unfortunately it does not work. All i want to know is if this a shortcoming of freebsd or the motherboard, if its the later, i will contact the manufacturer. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On 7/27/06, Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. What about using SMBus? Is it available on your system? xmbmon reads temperatures off the SMBus IIRC. Jiawei Ye -- "Without the userland, the kernel is useless." --inspired by The Tao of Programming ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
David Duchscher wrote: On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Bruno Ducrot wrote: Does this one support IPMI? Yes, the Supermicro PDSMi supports the IPMI 2.0 module and I can confirm that it works with the IPMI ported driver from current on 6.1. The module is optional so you will have to purchase one for the system, around 0. You will also need the latest BIOS loaded on the motherboard for it to work. http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm I don't want to spend $50 extra per system, just so i can read the temperature, and not even use any of the IPMI functions. I need a simple and scriptable way to get the values, acpi sysctls are ideal for this. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Bruno Ducrot wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:51:25AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: I need to be able to get the cpu and fan information from my motherboard, however none of the monitoring utilities in the ports seems to support my motherboard (Supermicro PDSMi, Intel E7230 (Mukilteo) Chipset). On my older VIA based motherboards and some Nvidia, i can get this information using ACPI and the hw.acpi.thermal sysctl. This however is not available on this motherboard. Would this be a shortcoming of the motherboards ACPI implementation, or a lack of support by freebsd? Does this one support IPMI? Yes, but with an optional $54 add-on card. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
O. Hartmann wrote: > > I need to be able to get the cpu and fan information from my > > motherboard, however none of the monitoring utilities in the ports > > seems to support my motherboard (Supermicro PDSMi, Intel E7230 > > (Mukilteo) Chipset). On my older VIA based motherboards and some > > Nvidia, i can get this information using ACPI and the hw.acpi.thermal > > sysctl. This however is not available on this motherboard. Would this > > be a shortcoming of the motherboards ACPI implementation, or a lack of > > support by freebsd? > > > > ___ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > Similar problem to me here with a ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe. The older > versions of this motherboard type like A8N-SLI Deluxe and maybe A8N-SLI > Premium had thermal zones in ACPI output, but not the A8N32-SLI. No > temperature, no fanspeed, no thermal zones. ASUS P800 SE i865e chipset - problems too. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Bruno Ducrot wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:51:25AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: I need to be able to get the cpu and fan information from my motherboard, however none of the monitoring utilities in the ports seems to support my motherboard (Supermicro PDSMi, Intel E7230 (Mukilteo) Chipset). On my older VIA based motherboards and some Nvidia, i can get this information using ACPI and the hw.acpi.thermal sysctl. This however is not available on this motherboard. Would this be a shortcoming of the motherboards ACPI implementation, or a lack of support by freebsd? Does this one support IPMI? Yes, the Supermicro PDSMi supports the IPMI 2.0 module and I can confirm that it works with the IPMI ported driver from current on 6.1. The module is optional so you will have to purchase one for the system, around 0. You will also need the latest BIOS loaded on the motherboard for it to work. http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-IPMI20-E.cfm -- DaveD
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Bruno Ducrot wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:51:25AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: I need to be able to get the cpu and fan information from my motherboard, however none of the monitoring utilities in the ports seems to support my motherboard (Supermicro PDSMi, Intel E7230 (Mukilteo) Chipset). On my older VIA based motherboards and some Nvidia, i can get this information using ACPI and the hw.acpi.thermal sysctl. This however is not available on this motherboard. Would this be a shortcoming of the motherboards ACPI implementation, or a lack of support by freebsd? Does this one support IPMI? ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe not ... ipmi driver in kernel installed, but finds no device. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:51:25AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > I need to be able to get the cpu and fan information from my > motherboard, however none of the monitoring utilities in the ports seems > to support my motherboard (Supermicro PDSMi, Intel E7230 (Mukilteo) > Chipset). On my older VIA based motherboards and some Nvidia, i can get > this information using ACPI and the hw.acpi.thermal sysctl. This however > is not available on this motherboard. Would this be a shortcoming of the > motherboards ACPI implementation, or a lack of support by freebsd? Does this one support IPMI? -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Re: Monitoring temperature with acpi (sysctls)
Mike Jakubik wrote: I need to be able to get the cpu and fan information from my motherboard, however none of the monitoring utilities in the ports seems to support my motherboard (Supermicro PDSMi, Intel E7230 (Mukilteo) Chipset). On my older VIA based motherboards and some Nvidia, i can get this information using ACPI and the hw.acpi.thermal sysctl. This however is not available on this motherboard. Would this be a shortcoming of the motherboards ACPI implementation, or a lack of support by freebsd? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Similar problem to me here with a ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe. The older versions of this motherboard type like A8N-SLI Deluxe and maybe A8N-SLI Premium had thermal zones in ACPI output, but not the A8N32-SLI. No temperature, no fanspeed, no thermal zones. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
