Re: beastiality

2010-10-29 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Hugo Silva wrote:
 > Randy Bush wrote:
 > > > This is often caused by a combination of two things being enabled
 > > > simultaneously: BIOS-level serial console redirection after POST, and
 > > > FreeBSD's serial console support.
 > > 
 > > bingo!
 > > 
 > > thanks
 > > 
 > > randy

 > Must admit I hesitated before opening this email..

Ah, this one was pretty tame .. randy's original post was very explicit 
though; Jeremy's a real gentleman for not requoting that sort of filth!
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Re: beastiality

2010-10-29 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:31:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Hugo Silva wrote:
>  > Randy Bush wrote:
>  > > > This is often caused by a combination of two things being enabled
>  > > > simultaneously: BIOS-level serial console redirection after POST, and
>  > > > FreeBSD's serial console support.
>  > > 
>  > > bingo!
>  > > 
>  > > thanks
>  > > 
>  > > randy
> 
>  > Must admit I hesitated before opening this email..
> 
> Ah, this one was pretty tame .. randy's original post was very explicit 
> though; Jeremy's a real gentleman for not requoting that sort of filth!

Randy's just strange sometimes.  Hey Randy, TLG called, they want
AS2914 back.  ;-)

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Re: beastiality

2010-10-29 Thread Hugo Silva

Randy Bush wrote:

This is often caused by a combination of two things being enabled
simultaneously: BIOS-level serial console redirection after POST, and
FreeBSD's serial console support.


bingo!

thanks

randy
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Must admit I hesitated before opening this email..
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Re: beastiality

2010-10-27 Thread Randy Bush
> This is often caused by a combination of two things being enabled
> simultaneously: BIOS-level serial console redirection after POST, and
> FreeBSD's serial console support.

bingo!

thanks

randy
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Re: beastiality

2010-10-27 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 04:47:00AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
> on the serial console, i am seeing twirlies doubled, as in
> 
> //
> 
> and the beastie is very tortured
> 
>  
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> [...]
> spare.psg.com:/root# cat /boot/loader.conf.local
> loader_logo=beastie
> #
> console="comconsole vidconsole"
> comconsole_speed="9600"
> #
> ipfw_load=YES

This is often caused by a combination of two things being enabled
simultaneously: BIOS-level serial console redirection after POST, and
FreeBSD's serial console support.  Effectively, the system BIOS is
"redirecting" VGA output to the serial port, while simultaneously
FreeBSD is doing serial console.

But I've seen different behaviour on different hardware over the years
when the first option is enabled.

- "Doubling of characters" like the above (but sometimes not doubled)
- System hard locking (reset/power cycle required) the instant the boot
  loader tries to do serial (some of my Yahoo! colleagues can confirm
  this one, even when using RedHat)
- System boots/runs fine but no serial output is visible past loader

I have some older Supermicro systems which do even weirder things when
the option is enabled, like lock up after loader.  I've also see
different behaviour on RELENG_7 than I do RELENG_8.

Back to Supermicro systems -- the aforementioned feature is usually
labelled as "Continue C.R. After POST" (C.R. stands for Console
Redirection).  This is not the same thing as disabling BIOS-level serial
console entirely, just that the "Agent" (some sort of interrupt tie-in)
isn't retained after POST.

If your system offers the BIOS option, you can try turning it off and
see if things improve.  Be aware that you will lose the ability to
access things like Option ROMs (SCSI BIOSes, Intel NIC PXE boot
information, etc.).

If your system doesn't offer that BIOS option, then possibly just
leaving console as its default will suffice.

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