Re: XFree86 faster!?

2002-06-27 Thread Craig Boston

Oliver Fromme wrote:
> First of all -- yes, I noticed the sarcasm.
> 
> While the speed improvement that Johannes experienced is
> certainly desirable and should not be reversed, it _is_
> somewhat important to find out what caused it.  Because
> if the cause is unknown, then it could disappear one day
> (maybe at the next update), rendering the system slower
> again, and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it
> because you have no clue what it is.

Oh, I agree completely.  I certainly didn't mean to imply that it wasn't
important to find the cause ;)  My apologies, I thought it would be
slightly funnier without an explanation giving it away.

I haven't noticed anything personally on my -stable machines, but
perhaps if Johannes or someone else who's noticed it wants to be
adventurous, and has a fast enough machine to do several buildworlds
without too much pain, he could try a binary search with the CVS/CVSup
dates and find out when the change happened.

OFFTOPIC: Is anyone else experiencing odd delays with the mailing
lists?  For example, I got Ian's reply to Oliver, but have yet to
receive Oliver's original reply to me (both sent to stable@).  Both
messages are in the archive already.  I've seen many messages from both
stable@ and current@ arriving quite out of order (some by several
hours), so I suspect it will show up in my mailbox later.

I'm inclined to think that there's a problem with my local MTA/DNS/etc.,
but I don't see the problem on other lists such as Bugtraq or my
personal mail...

Craig



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Re: XFree86 faster!?

2002-06-27 Thread JJ Behrens

> I just upgraded from 4.6 Release to -STABLE (Jun 27 21:42:28).
> My X feels much snappier now. Any ideas what might cause that?

I'm curious about your mouse configuration.  Are you using:

Driver  "mouse"
Option "Protocol""auto"
Option "Device"  "/dev/sysmouse"

I remember hearing that certain other configurations could result in missing
mouse interrupts.  This would definitely result in slowness.

Also, is the server you're using now accelerated, whereas the previous 
wasn't?

-jj

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Re: XFree86 faster!?

2002-06-27 Thread ian j hart

Oliver Fromme wrote:
> 
> Craig Boston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 14:44, Johannes Hofmann wrote:
>  > > I just upgraded from 4.6 Release to -STABLE (Jun 27 21:42:28).
>  > > My X feels much snappier now. Any ideas what might cause that?

my 0.02 euro

My perception is that it went slower at RC time, then
back to normal post release.

>  >
>  > Have you filed a PR on this?  I'm sure this is an issue that we would
>  > like to get resolved by 4.7-RELEASE if at all possible.
> 
> First of all -- yes, I noticed the sarcasm.
> 
> While the speed improvement that Johannes experienced is
> certainly desirable and should not be reversed, it _is_
> somewhat important to find out what caused it.  Because
> if the cause is unknown, then it could disappear one day
> (maybe at the next update), rendering the system slower
> again, and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it
> because you have no clue what it is.
> 
> For what it's worth, I have no clue what it is, either.
> 
> For the above reason, it is always preferable to know the
> causes for any changes in system behaviour, no matter if
> it changes in a positive or negative way.  Computers are
> not magic, and software is not voodoo.  Everything has a
> cause.
> 
> Regards
>Oliver
> 
> PS:  "Every sufficiently advanced technology is
> indistinguishable from magic."  (Unfortunately I don't
> remember who said that.)
> 

That'll be Arthur C. Clarke. His third law, in Profiles of
the future for example.

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Re: XFree86 faster!?

2002-06-27 Thread Oliver Fromme

I wrote about 10 minutes ago:
 > [...]
 > PS:  "Every sufficiently advanced technology is
 > indistinguishable from magic."  (Unfortunately I don't
 > remember who said that.)

Some two dozen people have mailed me that it was Arthur
C. Clark.  Thanks a bunch for refreshing my memory, and
now there's no reason to send me any more reminders.
I certainly won't forget it again.  :)

Regards
   Oliver

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