ZFS and Storage Systems
Morning, Apologies for the basic question but I just want to make sure. I have been looking at storage systems like this one http://www.icc-usa.com/storage-35-2u.asp. I am guessing it would be a case of sorting the discs out, probably on some GUI or command line for the box it self, then using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives...or is it not that simple? Thanks Chris ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS and Storage Systems
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:33:49AM +0100, Michal wrote: Apologies for the basic question but I just want to make sure. I have been looking at storage systems like this one http://www.icc-usa.com/storage-35-2u.asp. I am guessing it would be a case of sorting the discs out, probably on some GUI or command line for the box it self, then using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives...or is it not that simple? You say using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives..., which doesn't make sense, if I undestand the ICC system. The device appears to be an NAS system, with an OS, not an external disk bay. What you would want, I think, is either a) an external FCAL or iSCSI box that you could connect to another machine (running FreeBSD or some other OS); or b) a 'storage' server upon which to install FreeBSD and use as a NAS system. It may be that the ICC system can export the drives, but it seems like an unnecessary complication. -- greg byshenk - gbysh...@byshenk.net - Leiden, NL ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS and Storage Systems
Hello, On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:04:54PM +0200, Greg Byshenk wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:33:49AM +0100, Michal wrote: http://www.icc-usa.com/storage-35-2u.asp. ... You say using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives..., which doesn't make sense, if I undestand the ICC system. The device appears to be an NAS system, with an OS, not an external disk bay. To me these look like storage servers, i.e. standard server hardware with room for a lot of hot pluggable drives. This point in their description seems to confirm that: + DSS Lite That's a Linux based commercial NAS system that you install or plug into standard servers to turn them into a NAS. See http://www.open-e.com/ So, IMHO, yes, you should be able to replace that DSS stuff with either stock FreeBSD or preferrably FreeNAS to turn one of these boxes into a ZFS based NAS. I'll check with the supplier before ordering, nonetheless. Best regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 i...@punkt.de http://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS and Storage Systems
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:13:29PM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:04:54PM +0200, Greg Byshenk wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:33:49AM +0100, Michal wrote: http://www.icc-usa.com/storage-35-2u.asp. ... You say using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives..., which doesn't make sense, if I undestand the ICC system. The device appears to be an NAS system, with an OS, not an external disk bay. To me these look like storage servers, i.e. standard server hardware with room for a lot of hot pluggable drives. This point in their description seems to confirm that: It's interesting that the vendor (ICC) advertises this as a 12-disk box, yet it's only an 8-disk chassis. Additionally, the PSUs are 720W, not 800W, so I'm not sure why they claim that either. The chassis in question is almost certainly a Supermicro SC825TQ-R720UB, by the way: http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/2U/825/SC825TQ-R720U.cfm The picture doesn't show the front bezel serial/USB ports mounted, but they're visible on the SuperServer 6026T-URF (which is probably what ICC is selling anyway, pre-populated with CPUs, RAM, etc.): http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/2U/6026/SYS-6026T-URF.cfm That's a Linux based commercial NAS system that you install or plug into standard servers to turn them into a NAS. See http://www.open-e.com/ So, IMHO, yes, you should be able to replace that DSS stuff with either stock FreeBSD or preferrably FreeNAS to turn one of these boxes into a ZFS based NAS. I'll check with the supplier before ordering, nonetheless. It would be even better to simply ask them what exact Supermicro hardware (specifically, model numbers) they're using to build these systems. You can see Supermicro mentioned in the title of their site, so that's definitely what they're using, even down to the controller card offerings (some of which (Marvell) are known to behave oddly on FreeBSD (yes there are success stories, but there are also follow-up horror stories) -- consider yourself warned). -- | Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS and Storage Systems
It would be even better to simply ask them what exact Supermicro hardware (specifically, model numbers) they're using to build these systems. You can see Supermicro mentioned in thetitle of their site, so that's definitely what they're using, even down to the controller card offerings (some of which (Marvell) are known to behave oddly on FreeBSD (yes there are success stories, but there are also follow-up horror stories) -- consider yourself warned). I think the best option is to just build it your self using similar components which I have looked at before. My ideal is build a system where you can extend the storage easily by adding another box instead of either replacing the HDD's with bigger HDD's or having multiple targets for the data. One target whose storage can be expanded by simply adding another box. However, that is harder in practice to work out ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
