Re: cvsup-16-f issue

2002-01-12 Thread Erik Trulsson

On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:29:10PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
 Andrew McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] types:
   Is there a package for cvsup that doesn't require X ?
   I know that we have the -g key, still the new version has a feature?:
   on a fresh installation of 4.4 STABLE it gives me only cvsup-16-f
   package which complaines thusly:
  
   /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libXaw.so.6 not found
  
  If you have the ports system installed:
  
  # cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup/
  # make -DWITHOUT_X11  make install
  
  Bear in mind that CVSup is written in Modula 3 and will, thus, require
  this to be installed.
 
 Which is why you really want to do:
 
 # make -DSTATIC -DWITHOUT_X11  make install
 
 which will link all the Modula 3 libraries in statically, so you can
 then deinstall all of Modula 3 without breaking the thing. STATIC is
 turned on by defualt when making the package, but not when just
 building the port.

This used to be true, but is not true for the latest port which uses a
different Modula 3 compiler.
Nowadays the Modula 3 libraries are always linked in statically
and both package and port are by default linked dynamically with the
system libraries.

(This is what has caused the problems, since the X libraries are linked
in dynamically in the package, instead of statically as before.)

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Re: cvsup-16-f issue

2002-01-11 Thread Kent Stewart



Thomas Gravgaard wrote:

I wonder if it might make sense for the ISO to only have a 
cvsup which does not have X11.  A version without X11 will 
run OK on a system that does have X11, but the X11-version 
won't run on a system without X11, and it's certainly 
reasonable to *want* to run cvsup on a system that doesn't 
have X11.  And presumably it'd also save a few bytes on the ISO.

 
 IMHO it would make sense to require WITH_X11 instead of WITHOUT_X11 in the Makefile 
because the default behaviour would run on systems with an without X11. Since I only 
run boxes without X11 it would
 conveniently make my life easier too But thats another story :)

I happen to think that cvsup is one program that should be added as a 
package. You reduce the side effects introduced by having one port 
that needs a modula compiler. The s1g site has both versions and you 
download your choice.

Kent

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RE: cvsup-16-f issue

2002-01-11 Thread Thomas Gravgaard

 I happen to think that cvsup is one program that should be added as a 
 package. You reduce the side effects introduced by having one port 
 that needs a modula compiler. The s1g site has both versions and you 
 download your choice.

I do see your point... It is not good having to install that darn M3 compiler when 
CVSUP is the only ports needing it. I have just attuned myself to using ports, and it 
is with ports (and portupgrade) I
run my updating routines. But I could make an exception with CVSUP...

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RE: cvsup-16-f issue

2002-01-11 Thread Christopher Schulte

At 03:13 PM 1/11/2002 +0100, Thomas Gravgaard wrote:
I do see your point... It is not good having to install that darn M3 compiler

This was the idea of the cvsup-bin port, which looks not to be maintained 
any longer... ?

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Re: RE: cvsup-16-f issue

2002-01-11 Thread Gunnar Flygt

On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:29:44PM +0100, Thomas Gravgaard wrote:
  I wonder if it might make sense for the ISO to only have a 
  cvsup which does not have X11.  A version without X11 will 
  run OK on a system that does have X11, but the X11-version 
  won't run on a system without X11, and it's certainly 
  reasonable to *want* to run cvsup on a system that doesn't 
  have X11.  And presumably it'd also save a few bytes on the ISO.
 
 IMHO it would make sense to require WITH_X11 instead of WITHOUT_X11 in the Makefile 
because the default behaviour would run on systems with an without X11. Since I only 
run boxes without X11 it would
 conveniently make my life easier too But thats another story :)

And to add to that, if I install a new system, the first thing I would
like to do on it, is to run cvsup on both /usr/src and /usr/ports before
I install anything more (include X).
 
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Re: cvsup-16-f issue

2002-01-11 Thread Bzdik BSD

Andrew,

thank you very much for your no_X build.
It works fine here.

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