Re: help identifying gmirror, ata, or motherboard problem (Tyan S2865G2NR)
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 01:43:10PM -0800, George Hartzell wrote: > Just to follow up on this, Maxtor asked if the board used an Nvidia > controller (it does...) and then claimed that a newer rev. of their > firmware for these drives would work better. > > They're shipping a replacement drive. We'll see > > Thanks for all the feedback. I can confirm this problem, and it's documented all over the web, from forums to blogs to Maxtor's own site. Maxtor won't admit to it being a "bug", instead stating it's a "compatibility issue" with nVidia chipsets. They will only replace a drive with this firmware if the customer calls and complains about the exact issue and knows of the nVidia compatibility problem. It also helps to refer to the support ID# (or whatever it's called) when calling them, otherwise they claim they have no knowledge of it. Maxtor would not send me a firmware, nor an updater application, for the drive. I got Maxtor to send me a replacement drive, and it did fix the problem. However, the NCQ feature of the drive is essentially disabled (not like it matters much; read StorageReview's review of NCQ/TCQ for details). This problem (amongst many others) have pretty much put me off of ever buying another Maxtor drive as long as I live, and have made me extra wary of nVidia's SB (southbridge) chipsets. I expect a drive manufacturer + ATA interface company to test their drives thoroughly on all mainstream vendors' southbridges. Test means weeks upon weeks of constant pounding, in RAID arrays and in single systems. This kind-of bug should've been caught immediately, and never made it to the consumer market. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networkinghttp://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: help identifying gmirror, ata, or motherboard problem (Tyan S2865G2NR)
Miroslav Lachman writes: > George Hartzell wrote: > > > I'm having a problem with a machine that I support and would like some > > feedback. > > > > The system was built up from a barebones Transport PX22, which uses a > > Tyan S2865G2NR motherboard. > > > > It has two drives: > > > > ad4: 286188MB at ata2-master SATA300 > > ad6: 286188MB at ata3-master SATA300 Just to follow up on this, Maxtor asked if the board used an Nvidia controller (it does...) and then claimed that a newer rev. of their firmware for these drives would work better. They're shipping a replacement drive. We'll see Thanks for all the feedback. g. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: help identifying gmirror, ata, or motherboard problem (Tyan S2865G2NR)
George Hartzell wrote: I'm having a problem with a machine that I support and would like some feedback. The system was built up from a barebones Transport PX22, which uses a Tyan S2865G2NR motherboard. It has two drives: ad4: 286188MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 286188MB at ata3-master SATA300 A while back I noticed in the daily periodic report that gmirror had dropped ad4. We rebooted and got things going again and it ran smoothly for a month or so, then dropped it again. At that point we did a warranty replacement of ad4 and things have been running smoothly for a couple of months. A few days ago gmirror kicked ad6 out of the raid, which the following lines in dmesg: ad6: FAILURE - device detached subdisk6: detached ad6: detached GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6s1 disconnected. We're adding an external device into the mirror and are planning to do a warranty swap on this drive too. The system is running, but feels sluggish. It might be interesting to note that the disk activity light is continuously lit. The system if running the stock 6.1 RELEASE. FreeBSD foo.com 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:15:57 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP amd64 I'm trying to figure out if we've just gotten two lousy disks, or if there might be a driver or motherboard issue. Does any of this ring any bells? I'm suggesting that we upgrade to the tip of the stable tree, but the owner's not convinced. I can't tell if there's been anything relevant in the stable release that might address this (aside from all the other great stuff that's in there). Thanks for any input, Hi, I had same problem few month ago and it was motherboard problem in my case. (the whole batch of ASUS barebones problem more precisely) Problem appeared with Seagate disks more often than with Hitec or Samsung, so my first thoughts was "it must be bad hard drive or batch of hard drives", but after many replacements and drives from other manufacturer I start to guess "it must be driver problem"... after next month of testing I found same problems on this batch of barebones with Linux and same barebones from different batch were running Linux for a long time... "say good bye Asus". I can't be 100% sure this is your case too, but I think so. Miroslav Lachman PS: you can check the drive status by smartctl (/usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools) or by some utility from drive manufacturer before you do warranty return ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: help identifying gmirror, ata, or motherboard problem (Tyan S2865G2NR)
Some advice here from a guy that's been doing professional data recovery for years... Don't touch Maxtor. Ever. Luckily Fujitsu don't make ide drives any more. They were worse than Maxtor. If you have existing Maxtor dirves and can't change them make sure you keep them as cool as possible. I would recommend Western Digital or Seagate for IDE drives. Western Digital make RAID edition drives which are very fast and reliable which I personally favour for these kind of situations and they only cost a bit more. -Clay - Original Message - From: "George Hartzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: help identifying gmirror, ata,or motherboard problem (Tyan S2865G2NR) I'm having a problem with a machine that I support and would like some feedback. The system was built up from a barebones Transport PX22, which uses a Tyan S2865G2NR motherboard. It has two drives: ad4: 286188MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 286188MB at ata3-master SATA300 A while back I noticed in the daily periodic report that gmirror had dropped ad4. We rebooted and got things going again and it ran smoothly for a month or so, then dropped it again. At that point we did a warranty replacement of ad4 and things have been running smoothly for a couple of months. A few days ago gmirror kicked ad6 out of the raid, which the following lines in dmesg: ad6: FAILURE - device detached subdisk6: detached ad6: detached GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6s1 disconnected. We're adding an external device into the mirror and are planning to do a warranty swap on this drive too. The system is running, but feels sluggish. It might be interesting to note that the disk activity light is continuously lit. The system if running the stock 6.1 RELEASE. FreeBSD foo.com 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:15:57 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP amd64 I'm trying to figure out if we've just gotten two lousy disks, or if there might be a driver or motherboard issue. Does any of this ring any bells? I'm suggesting that we upgrade to the tip of the stable tree, but the owner's not convinced. I can't tell if there's been anything relevant in the stable release that might address this (aside from all the other great stuff that's in there). Thanks for any input, g. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
help identifying gmirror, ata, or motherboard problem (Tyan S2865G2NR)
I'm having a problem with a machine that I support and would like some feedback. The system was built up from a barebones Transport PX22, which uses a Tyan S2865G2NR motherboard. It has two drives: ad4: 286188MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 286188MB at ata3-master SATA300 A while back I noticed in the daily periodic report that gmirror had dropped ad4. We rebooted and got things going again and it ran smoothly for a month or so, then dropped it again. At that point we did a warranty replacement of ad4 and things have been running smoothly for a couple of months. A few days ago gmirror kicked ad6 out of the raid, which the following lines in dmesg: ad6: FAILURE - device detached subdisk6: detached ad6: detached GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6s1 disconnected. We're adding an external device into the mirror and are planning to do a warranty swap on this drive too. The system is running, but feels sluggish. It might be interesting to note that the disk activity light is continuously lit. The system if running the stock 6.1 RELEASE. FreeBSD foo.com 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:15:57 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP amd64 I'm trying to figure out if we've just gotten two lousy disks, or if there might be a driver or motherboard issue. Does any of this ring any bells? I'm suggesting that we upgrade to the tip of the stable tree, but the owner's not convinced. I can't tell if there's been anything relevant in the stable release that might address this (aside from all the other great stuff that's in there). Thanks for any input, g. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
