Re: new desktop box
I run an 8120, it is a bulldozer however. I overclock it by adjusting the multiplier in the bios. Stock freq is 3.1GHZ and I run it at 4.2 GHz with an increase in Vcore of only 0.125V cooling with air. Solid as a rock. How about heating? - buildworld runs about 20min. - buildkernel runs about 6min. That is what matters. :) Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Zoran Kolic wrote: I run an 8120, it is a bulldozer however. I overclock it by adjusting the multiplier in the bios. Stock freq is 3.1GHZ and I run it at 4.2 GHz with an increase in Vcore of only 0.125V cooling with air. Solid as a rock. How about heating? - buildworld runs about 20min. - buildkernel runs about 6min. That is what matters. :) If you use gcc, devel/ccache can improve that a lot. ccache also works with clang, but does not seem very effective. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
I have a GT430 installed on my machine, but I think GT520 will use less power, from specification: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-520/specifications It only needs 29W while GT430 needs 49W. NVIDIA also provides their native driver for FreeBSD. There is fanless GT520 card, not expensive. I hope it will work with nv. No real need for something more than basic graphics. What I still cannot decide is what cpu to get. I read reviews for bulldozer and find nothing thrilling. Guys are mostly gamers. On the other side, whatever i buy, gonna suffice. How about fx 8120 ? I like to have multicore (is there one core nowadays), but cold. Seems that I cannot wait for next generation to show up. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
Do not get a Radeon newer than the 4000-series, the drivers are not available in FreeBSD at present. The 4650 has worked well for me. I'm not picky. In old node I have/had geforce 6200, which is pretty old. Works fine for non-demanding user. It also has no fan. As I said, my only concern at the moment is what cpu I should choose. I found posts of non working amdtemp on bulldozer. Code from the head had to be compiled for it to work. Gamers overclock and get high temperatures. If someone has fx cpu (especially 8120), I'd like to hear how it behaves. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
Hi, On Thursday, June 28, 2012 09:00:56 PM Zoran Kolic wrote: Thanks all for reply! The real question is which video card do you want to use? Since I'm not gamer nor do 3d, some silent card will suffice. There are nvidia gp520 and radeon 6450, both with no fan. Also, I always enable powerd and dynamically lower freq to the least I could. More I read, less I know, regarding that future cpu. What about amd fx8120 ? Nex gen will come at Q3, maybe. I am currently also considering an eight core AMD. I have a Athlon X4 620 and I am perfectly happy with it. Next decision might be ssd, instead of hdd. Best reviews are for samsung 830 (of wich 64gb are fine in my case). I plan to install from usb stick and avoid dvd-cd. Also, cannot This is what I do since 8.0. Erich ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
Thanks all for reply! The real question is which video card do you want to use? Since I'm not gamer nor do 3d, some silent card will suffice. There are nvidia gp520 and radeon 6450, both with no fan. Also, I always enable powerd and dynamically lower freq to the least I could. More I read, less I know, regarding that future cpu. What about amd fx8120 ? Nex gen will come at Q3, maybe. Next decision might be ssd, instead of hdd. Best reviews are for samsung 830 (of wich 64gb are fine in my case). I plan to install from usb stick and avoid dvd-cd. Also, cannot make into what mobo should fit, but stay out of expensive field. Probably intel ethernet if possible, but it is not available in most data I read. Once more, thank you all for fast respond. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Zoran Kolic wrote: Thanks all for reply! The real question is which video card do you want to use? Since I'm not gamer nor do 3d, some silent card will suffice. There are nvidia gp520 and radeon 6450, both with no fan. Do not get a Radeon newer than the 4000-series, the drivers are not available in FreeBSD at present. The 4650 has worked well for me. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
On 2012/06/28 22:00, Zoran Kolic wrote: Thanks all for reply! The real question is which video card do you want to use? Since I'm not gamer nor do 3d, some silent card will suffice. There are nvidia gp520 and radeon 6450, both with no fan. Also, I always enable powerd and dynamically lower freq to the least I could. More I read, less I know, regarding that future cpu. What about amd fx8120 ? Nex gen will come at Q3, maybe. Next decision might be ssd, instead of hdd. Best reviews are for samsung 830 (of wich 64gb are fine in my case). I plan to install from usb stick and avoid dvd-cd. Also, cannot make into what mobo should fit, but stay out of expensive field. Probably intel ethernet if possible, but it is not available in most data I read. Once more, thank you all for fast respond. Zoran I have a GT430 installed on my machine, but I think GT520 will use less power, from specification: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-520/specifications It only needs 29W while GT430 needs 49W. NVIDIA also provides their native driver for FreeBSD. Regards, David Xu ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
new desktop box
Dear list! This evening my 7 years old node powers down for it's own sake. After a bit of panic, I made a decision to get new box. Regarding fast development of hardware, I cannot choose what is the correct way to go. For long time I use AMD and would like to have another one, but would listen to advice, if proves better to have intel. What are features I'd like: - to be silent and cold - to stay on not-expensive side Finally, questions. Phenom II 1100 or something else? Mobo for said cpu with eth, well working with freebsd? Graphical card, silent, that would work with amd64, branch 9? No games, nothing fancy. To last next few years. I plan to com- pile kernel or two. Half of usage is in console, startx then. I will give additional information for my taste, if needed. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote: Dear list! This evening my 7 years old node powers down for it's own sake. After a bit of panic, I made a decision to get new box. Regarding fast development of hardware, I cannot choose what is the correct way to go. For long time I use AMD and would like to have another one, but would listen to advice, if proves better to have intel. What are features I'd like: - to be silent and cold - to stay on not-expensive side Finally, questions. Phenom II 1100 or something else? Mobo for said cpu with eth, well working with freebsd? Graphical card, silent, that would work with amd64, branch 9? No games, nothing fancy. To last next few years. I plan to com- pile kernel or two. Half of usage is in console, startx then. I will give additional information for my taste, if needed. Best regards Zoran You did not specify what expensive is to you, nor if you want prebuilt or if you want to assemble it yourself. I'd go with Intel today. We just got Dell Vostro 460 desktops, with Intel core i5-2400 cpu with integrated graphics. Works really good, almost quiet. You would need to go with 9-stable and use new xorg though, so once X is started, you would lose console. The only bad thing is perhaps the ethernet, it's some lousy RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller If you want a few hdds the chassi is not that good. Regards Andreas ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/27/2012 10:37 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: Dear list! This evening my 7 years old node powers down for it's own sake. After a bit of panic, I made a decision to get new box. Regarding fast development of hardware, I cannot choose what is the correct way to go. For long time I use AMD and would like to have another one, but would listen to advice, if proves better to have intel. What are features I'd like: - to be silent and cold - to stay on not-expensive side Finally, questions. Phenom II 1100 or something else? Mobo for said cpu with eth, well working with freebsd? Graphical card, silent, that would work with amd64, branch 9? No games, nothing fancy. To last next few years. I plan to com- pile kernel or two. Half of usage is in console, startx then. I will give additional information for my taste, if needed. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org For me I have had more problems with cheap (even expensive) mobo's than with either CPU type. I like the i5 offering where the CPU can spike one core clock up to speed things up. Seems like the best of both worlds, when you need multiprocessor speed you have it, when one process needs more it can also have it. As far as silent it has been all about fan choice. I custom build all mine so I can pick and choose the features I want in case/fans/etc. Thanks, Robert - -- Robert Comstock Comstock RD, Inc. Lead Engineer Phone: 208-652-0145 Cell: 208-360-0627 Email: rob...@comstockrd.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP6z5KAAoJELeYg2LwVZsKTikIAJADQeuVnicpwDbMhrc/XgZM Q7BfjDZQGnJSRHm+xXSnR2Cq9c2sraubbqDJ92zZHYsNS68cq0yGJ0aA/+DTExSR z7zTEdodU4i3D9ljeBBB7BtZlEeRaSowLKKZY73Psfoun0ZyxZ/fxyEXHgQZy92T 6GMNf9rhTG3OtEUlc90Oq5UvFB2g6nKZ/LphMEFgSaVjlf5d6YeprAe/6V5bamWY 5/+lprzYTF3XbqmGB8/c5i4uVuevhdK0XnH587WBi3NsN3zZPOxF2e9TgTVx4kjQ V7eZc0uzxuWpYX0zqtJL85uV70lVN3x+S9fmYwYW3Qf0erdNJi+ii4T6Z0Tj+ao= =4q6e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
AMD and Intel both have good CPU offerings. Both have a turbo feature to improve single core workloads. The real question is which video card do you want to use? Both have integrated solutions now or you could pick a discrete card. I personally go amd but buy nvidia cards as there are binary drivers. Amd's newer cards are not supported by x11 well under bsd. If you go with an on CPU gpu (APU) this is an intel only scenario. Amd chips are cheaper but you need a video card too. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012, Lucas Holt wrote: AMD and Intel both have good CPU offerings. Both have a turbo feature to improve single core workloads. The real question is which video card do you want to use? Both have integrated solutions now or you could pick a discrete card. I personally go amd but buy nvidia cards as there are binary drivers. Amd's newer cards are not supported by x11 well under bsd. If you go with an on CPU gpu (APU) this is an intel only scenario. Amd chips are cheaper but you need a video card too. ___ The Core i5 processors cost more (sometimes a lot more), but dominate AMD in benchmarks. FreeBSD also has/will have support for the open Intel video driver. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
