opinion on which software RAID to use

2006-03-02 Thread Vivek Khera
I have a stack of new boxes here with two SATA drives on which I plan  
to do software RAID.  The box actually has a hardware RAID but it is  
somehow disabled since I didn't pay extra for it... I can access the  
BIOS and set up the RAID volume but it fails at boot.  So they are  
configured as individual disks.  The boxes are Dell PowerEdge 1425SC.


Anyhow, I see at least three ways to set up a mirror of these drives  
and/or partitions:


 gvinum
 gmirror
 atacontrol

Any opinions on which has both qualities: easy to configure/manage  
(ie, recover after failure) and performance?  The handbook RAID page  
doesn't even mention gmirror.  The atacontrol seems very simple to  
use, at least.


Let me know what you think.  Thanks!

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Re: opinion on which software RAID to use

2006-03-02 Thread Rink Springer
Hi Vivek,

 Any opinions on which has both qualities: easy to configure/manage  
 (ie, recover after failure) and performance?  The handbook RAID page  
 doesn't even mention gmirror.  The atacontrol seems very simple to  
 use, at least.

I've had very good results with gmirror. It's very easy to set up,
performance is good (didn't really benchmark it though) and recovering
faulty drives is easy to do. Never had a problem with it ...

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Re: opinion on which software RAID to use

2006-03-02 Thread Alec Berryman
Rink Springer on 2006-03-02 20:30:03 +0100:

 Hi Vivek,
 
  Any opinions on which has both qualities: easy to configure/manage  
  (ie, recover after failure) and performance?  The handbook RAID page  
  doesn't even mention gmirror.  The atacontrol seems very simple to  
  use, at least.
 
 I've had very good results with gmirror. It's very easy to set up,
 performance is good (didn't really benchmark it though) and recovering
 faulty drives is easy to do. Never had a problem with it ...

I'll second gmirror.  An excellent tutorial may be found at
http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/.


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Re: opinion on which software RAID to use

2006-03-02 Thread Paul Mather
On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 14:11 -0500, Vivek Khera wrote:

 Anyhow, I see at least three ways to set up a mirror of these drives  
 and/or partitions:
 
   gvinum
   gmirror
   atacontrol
 
 Any opinions on which has both qualities: easy to configure/manage  
 (ie, recover after failure) and performance?  The handbook RAID page  
 doesn't even mention gmirror.  The atacontrol seems very simple to  
 use, at least.
 
 Let me know what you think.  Thanks!

For basic mirroring, I'd say go for gmirror.  I've been using it
successfully for a long time.  I migrated to it from vinum/gvinum
because it offered more flexible read load-balancing (you can choose
between various policies) and easier recovery.  It can even do N-way
mirroring.

I tried atacontrol in the past, but could never get it to reconstruct
after a simulated failure.  With gmirror, you have the option of
automatic or manual reconstruction for failed/stale providers.

You might want to consider gvinum if you think you might want to use
RAID 5 or LVM-type aggregations in the future, but if you are just
planning on mirroring I'd strongly suggest going with gmirror.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Re: opinion on which software RAID to use

2006-03-02 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, all!

On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 08:30:03PM +0100, Rink Springer wrote:

 I've had very good results with gmirror. It's very easy to set up,
 performance is good (didn't really benchmark it though) and recovering
 faulty drives is easy to do. Never had a problem with it ...

Seconded. Go, read Ralf Engelschall's great instructions on
how to setup a gmirror system drive:

http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200502/diskmirror.html

IMHO this should be put somewhere more prominent.
It could easily replace this section in the handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html

HTH,
Patrick
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RE: opinion on which software RAID to use

2006-03-02 Thread Helge.Oldach
Vivek, 

Frankly, for smaller, desktop-sized boxen I prefer atacontrol. Once set up at 
installation time, it just works. I even managed to hotswap drives on certain 
ATA controllers, provided that the drives are on different channels.

On the server end, I still prefer SCSI-based hardware RAID.

YMMV.

Helge

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Subject: opinion on which software RAID to use

I have a stack of new boxes here with two SATA drives on which I plan  
to do software RAID.  The box actually has a hardware RAID but it is  
somehow disabled since I didn't pay extra for it... I can access the  
BIOS and set up the RAID volume but it fails at boot.  So they are  
configured as individual disks.  The boxes are Dell PowerEdge 1425SC.

Anyhow, I see at least three ways to set up a mirror of these drives  
and/or partitions:

  gvinum
  gmirror
  atacontrol

Any opinions on which has both qualities: easy to configure/manage  
(ie, recover after failure) and performance?  The handbook RAID page  
doesn't even mention gmirror.  The atacontrol seems very simple to  
use, at least.

Let me know what you think.  Thanks!

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