Re: pkg_add -r does not find packages FreeBSD 9.0 rc1

2011-11-14 Thread Erwin Lansing
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 06:13:59PM +0200, Luchesar V. ILIEV wrote:
 On 12/11/2011 16:36, Kenneth Hatteland wrote:
  I have installed RC1 and after getting confused with the new install
  routines, I have my system up. But when I try to install packages
  like nano and cvsup-without-gui to build my machine up from base the
  system reports no packages found. This have only rarely happened on
  my other systems and never on a fresh install.any clues ???
 
 Could it be related to this PR?
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=162490
 
This is an unfortunate sideeffect of our current release process for
major version releases where it's hard to synchronize the change needed
to pkg_add and the package sets on the mirrors.  There are some
workarounds that may make this a bit less painfull, but in general this
is one of the reasons why we really should aim for maing the src and
ports releases independent from eachother.

For now, the best option for BETA and RSs is to override PACKAGESITE as
Bane Ivosev suggested.

Erwin

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Re: pkg_add -r does not find packages FreeBSD 9.0 rc1

2011-11-14 Thread Stuart Barkley
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 at 15:49 -, Erwin Lansing wrote:

 This is an unfortunate sideeffect of our current release process for
 major version releases where it's hard to synchronize the change
 needed to pkg_add and the package sets on the mirrors.

This might be another sign of too frequent major releases.  Like some
others I would prefer to see fewer major version number changes.  A
longer lived stable series is preferable (like 3.X and 4.X).

Since FreeBSD in not the OS I use most often (unfortunately, since I
do prefer BSD), I tend to lag on my personal installations.  I'm still
at 8.1 and would probably go to 8.3 sometime soon if it became
available.  I'm not ready for the breakage 9.X might entail for me.

Yes, these are just numbers and might not have actual significance.
I will probably also be happy to go with 9.0 when released.

Common use (and declared FreeBSD use) is that changes with breakage
imply the major version number changes and changes without major
breakage change the minor version number.

I have been the frustrated programmer who is eager to get my code out
running on more systems.  I have also been the frustrated user waiting
for some needed new functionality only in a development/test
environment.  Trading off the various needs will never satisfy anyone.

Note: I'm far more frustrated seeing Firefox hit 8.0 and am glad that
Firefox 3.6 is still in ports (even if not the default version).

Stuart
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pkg_add -r does not find packages FreeBSD 9.0 rc1

2011-11-12 Thread Kenneth Hatteland
I have installed RC1 and after getting confused with the new install routines, 
I have my system up. But when I try to install packages like nano and 
cvsup-without-gui to build my machine up from base the system reports no 
packages found. This have only rarely happened on my other systems and never on 
a fresh install.any clues ???

Kenneth Hatteland 

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Re: pkg_add -r does not find packages FreeBSD 9.0 rc1

2011-11-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 03:36:05PM +0100, Kenneth Hatteland wrote:
 I have installed RC1 and after getting confused with the new install 
 routines, I have my system up. But when I try to install packages like nano 
 and cvsup-without-gui to build my machine up from base the system reports no 
 packages found. This have only rarely happened on my other systems and never 
 on a fresh install.any clues ???

Chances are the FTP mirrors (which are what pkg_add -r relies on) do not
have binary packages build specifically for 9.x at this point in time.

$ ftp ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/
...
ftp dir
227 Entering Passive Mode (204,152,184,73,207,75).
150 Here comes the directory listing.
lrwxrwxrwx1 633  49315 Apr 19  2007 packages - 
packages-stable
drwxrwxr-x   95 967  100  2048 Nov 29  2010 packages-6-stable
drwxrwxr-x   95 967  100  2048 Nov 07 18:57 packages-7-stable
drwxrwxr-x   95 967  100  2048 Feb 09  2011 packages-7.4-release
drwxrwxr-x   95 967  100  2048 Nov 06 17:07 packages-8-stable
drwxrwxr-x   95 967  100  2048 Feb 10  2011 packages-8.2-release
drwxrwxr-x   95 967  100  2048 Nov 09 17:38 packages-9-stable
lrwxr-xr-x1 967  10017 Aug 28  2009 packages-current - 
packages-8-stable
lrwxr-xr-x1 967  10017 Nov 07 07:51 packages-stable - 
packages-9-stable
226 Directory send OK.

So there's a packages-9-stable directory dated 2-3 days ago.  Whether or
not your pkg_add client is actually trying to access that directory is
unknown to me; you provided absolutely no output from pkg_add -r so I
have to speculate.  Without details I'm forced to make assumptions.

Furthermore, some FTP mirrors may not update their mirror data as often
as others.  To work around this, you can specify a full URL of the
package to pkg_add -r and it will work.

Also be aware that ftp.freebsd.org actually returns multiple A records
(3 specifically), so which actual server you get varies.  dig a
ftp.freebsd.org will show you what I mean.

Finally, please be aware that a cvsup replacement, csup(1), has been in
the base system since FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE.  It works the same as cvsup,
parses the same files, near-identical flags, etc..  If there is a
feature of cvsup that csup doesn't have, please tell us what that is so
someone can implement it or provide a workaround; the less crap you have
to install on your system the better (and I for one do not care for the
language cvsup is written in, while csup is purely C).

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Re: pkg_add -r does not find packages FreeBSD 9.0 rc1

2011-11-12 Thread Luchesar V. ILIEV
On 12/11/2011 16:36, Kenneth Hatteland wrote:
 I have installed RC1 and after getting confused with the new install
 routines, I have my system up. But when I try to install packages
 like nano and cvsup-without-gui to build my machine up from base the
 system reports no packages found. This have only rarely happened on
 my other systems and never on a fresh install.any clues ???

Could it be related to this PR?

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=162490

Cheers,
Luchesar
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Re: pkg_add -r does not find packages FreeBSD 9.0 rc1

2011-11-12 Thread Bane Ivosev

set PACKAGESITE environment variable

for tcsh shell
setenv PACKAGESITE 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-stable/Latest/


hope this help

On 11/12/11 15:36, Kenneth Hatteland wrote:

I have installed RC1 and after getting confused with the new install routines, 
I have my system up. But when I try to install packages like nano and 
cvsup-without-gui to build my machine up from base the system reports no 
packages found. This have only rarely happened on my other systems and never on 
a fresh install.any clues ???

Kenneth Hatteland


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