Re: ssh to remote machines problem after cvsup

2002-07-10 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

"Andrew P. Lentvorski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If OpenSSH did a proper "attempt version 2(fail) -> attempt version
> 1(succeed)" fallback, your original users *would* be able to get in
> *without* change.  This fact that this does not occur really is a
> bug/misfeature of OpenSSH.

No, it's a bug/misfeature of the protocol OpenSSH implements.  OpenSSH
can't do anything about it without losing the right to its name.

DES
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Re: ssh to remote machines problem after cvsup

2002-07-09 Thread Kevin Oberman

> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 10:09:29 -0700
> From: Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Jay Sachs wrote:
> 
> > There are those of us who consider the protocol switch a good change,
> 
> So you are free to do that on your systems. The problem is, whether you
> think it's a good idea or not, it's already catching people by surprise,
> and locking them out of their systems. The change should be reverted.

Doug,

This was discussed on stable (admittedly a bit late in the game) and
every comment I saw favored making the change in Stable. An entry was
made in UPDATING to warn people of the change.

>From a security standpoint alone the change is justified as protocol
V1.5 has long required kludges to work around its problems while V2
was much more carefully crafted from the ground up and has no known
problems. I am only talking about the protocol and no particular
implementation.

People should really be using V2 protocols in all cases except where
remote systems still don't support it. (And, do you REALLY want to
connect to those systems?)

I will admit that I had pretty much converted everything of mine to
use V2 long before this came up, so this really didn't have an
impact on me.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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Re: ssh to remote machines problem after cvsup

2002-07-09 Thread Doug Barton

Jay Sachs wrote:

> There are those of us who consider the protocol switch a good change,

So you are free to do that on your systems. The problem is, whether you
think it's a good idea or not, it's already catching people by surprise,
and locking them out of their systems. The change should be reverted.

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Re: ssh to remote machines problem after cvsup

2002-07-08 Thread David Schultz

Thus spake stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Some machines will let me in, but only if I enter the password (where I did
> not have to before). Others just refuse to let me in at all!

I have had the former problem for quite some time.  All of the
machines in question were running some version of SSH Secure Shell
and were (as far as I know) correctly configured to use public key
authentication.  Reverting to ``Protocol 1,2'' in ssh_config
solved the problem.

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