Re: clang and -mfpmath=387 on ARCH=amd64

2010-12-27 Thread Ade Lovett

On Dec 26, 2010, at 15:00 , Alexander Best wrote:
 it seems this issue is one of the cases where everybody is too afraid to make
 the actual commit. :(

More likely, it's a case of let's get 7.4/8.2 out the door, with the usual rush 
of MFCs.

I have a feeling that 9.0 (perhaps the entire 9.x tree) is going to be pretty 
brutal.  Whether it's with gcc and clang side by side, or just clang.  A change 
of this magnitude is going to _hurt_.

-aDe

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Re: clang and -mfpmath=387 on ARCH=amd64

2010-12-27 Thread Alexander Best
On Mon Dec 27 10, Ade Lovett wrote:
 
 On Dec 26, 2010, at 15:00 , Alexander Best wrote:
  it seems this issue is one of the cases where everybody is too afraid to 
  make
  the actual commit. :(
 
 More likely, it's a case of let's get 7.4/8.2 out the door, with the usual 
 rush of MFCs.
 
 I have a feeling that 9.0 (perhaps the entire 9.x tree) is going to be pretty 
 brutal.  Whether it's with gcc and clang side by side, or just clang.  A 
 change of this magnitude is going to _hurt_.

if i understood the previous comments correctly this change will have *no* 
impact whatsoever appart from keeping stdout/stderr a bit cleaner.

well...of course rushing changes is not a good idea but the opposide is just as
bad. there are hundreds of very techie discussions where developers aggree on a
certain item, but after the discussions ends nothing happens.

e.g.:
- switching the source for pciconf
- mfc'ing the latest awk release to stable/7
- fixing some serious data corruption in the mailinglist archives
- revising BDECFLAGS
- ... plus numerous PRs which contain *correct* patches, now outdated due to
  their age.

also this is very discouraging. a lot of people stop their community support,
since their work (e.g. patches) dye of old age in some problem report.
personally i write far less patches than i used too, simply because most of the
time nobody will help you get the patches committed, even if they fix trivial
spelling mistakes in manual pages.

just my 0.02$.

cheers.
alex

 
 -aDe
 

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Re: clang and -mfpmath=387 on ARCH=amd64

2010-12-26 Thread Alexander Best
On Sat Dec 18 10, Alexander Best wrote:
 

[snip]

 
 maybe sorting the options just like in the i386 section is a better to have
 more consistency.

it seems this issue is one of the cases where everybody is too afraid to make
the actual commit. :(

cheers.
alex

[snip]


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