Re: consistent, functional 1TB usb drive?
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:13 AM, Hans Petter Selasky h...@bitfrost.no wrote: Are any of the USB devices you have bought so-called USB certified, carry a USB logo and are registered by usb.org? Has anyone actually seen one of these mythical beasts in the wild? I'm having difficulty purchasing one. Perhaps it's because I'm looking for a self-powered USB drive? Constraints of the server room require that we not plug these things into their own outlets. Any suggestions for buying one these things to use? Anyone have an experience with one they can recommend? [Sorry for the double-send, Hans, I missed the Reply All on the first message.] ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: consistent, functional 1TB usb drive?
On Tue, 3/4/14, Velcro Leaf velcrol...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:13 AM, Hans Petter Selasky h...@bitfrost.no wrote: Are any of the USB devices you have bought so-called USB certified, carry a USB logo and are registered by usb.org? Any suggestions for buying one these things to use? Anyone have an experience with one they can recommend? Although, I suppose the more important question is...even if something is USB certified, is it REALLY going to work? Just because it SHOULD work, WOULD it work? If all certified means is that I theoretically could win a prolonged debate with either FreeBSD contributors or the drive manufacturer, then it hardly matters. Being right on the Internet is worth less than nothing. I just want to buy half a dozen self-powered USB drives and have them work with multiple architectures (i386 and amd64) using the same recent, stable version of FreeBSD. Any advice to help me accomplish this goal? ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: consistent, functional 1TB usb drive?
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 02:56:40 -0800 (PST) Velcro Leaf velcrol...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Tue, 3/4/14, Velcro Leaf velcrol...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:13 AM, Hans Petter Selasky h...@bitfrost.no wrote: Are any of the USB devices you have bought so-called USB certified, carry a USB logo and are registered by usb.org? Any suggestions for buying one these things to use? Anyone have an experience with one they can recommend? Although, I suppose the more important question is...even if something is USB certified, is it REALLY going to work? Just because it SHOULD work, WOULD it work? If all certified means is that I theoretically could win a prolonged debate with either FreeBSD contributors or the drive manufacturer, then it hardly matters. Being right on the Internet is worth less than nothing. I just want to buy half a dozen self-powered USB drives and have them work with multiple architectures (i386 and amd64) using the same recent, stable version of FreeBSD. Any advice to help me accomplish this goal? I have two 1TB USB3 external drives from Toshiba (laptop drives in a plastic enclosure) which work with both FreeBSD and Windows7. Since they're USB3 there's no problem with powering them. Transfer rates on the order of 90 MB/s. Here's what's on the sticker: www.toshibastorage.com v63700-C 1TB P/N: HDTB110EK3BA Don't know whether these are still available. Seems to me I bought them cheap on eBay or amazon. -- Gary Jennejohn ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: consistent, functional 1TB usb drive?
Hi, just buy cheap USB cases and put any drive you want in. Of course, some of the cases are better and same are worse then other. But how much money will you lose. As you can use then drives which fit into your other hardware, you can even exchange them in case of a problem. Erich On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:54:34 -0800 (PST) Velcro Leaf velcrol...@rocketmail.com wrote: I'm trying to get off tape drives and move to USB drives for backups, however circumstances are making this impossible. Does anyone have a suggestion for a known 1TB external USB drive, powered through the USB cable, that consistently works with FreeBSD, and has for some time? I've gone through half a dozen models of such drives and each time I find one that works properly on each of our servers, I try to buy a few more to make a complete cycle. Invariably, however, I can no longer purchase the same model, or I can get the same model, but it is invisibly different at purchase-time (eg, with new firmware that doesn't work with FreeBSD). I've tried to work through the quirks process with you guys, but it hasn't been successful, and eventually I suppose it's not considered enough of a problem to fix, probably because in a few weeks there will be a brand new version that doesn't work, in a different way. I know that these drives are all tested with Windows before shipping, and that's why they work with Windows, but is there any plan, on either the hardware or FreeBSD side of things to deal with this issue? I've been working on and off on the problem for about a year, and if anything, things are getting worse. -Leif ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usb/187188: [USB][patch] ELECOM WRH-150 needs a quirk
The following reply was made to PR usb/187188; it has been noted by GNATS. From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?SGlyb28gT25vICgbJEI+LkxuNDJAOBsoQik=?= hiroo.ono+free...@gmail.com To: Hans Petter Selasky h...@bitfrost.no Cc: freebsd-gnats-sub...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb/187188: [USB][patch] ELECOM WRH-150 needs a quirk Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 21:15:42 +0900 Hi, I have tried with stable r262711, and it is recognized as umodem0, same as with 10.0R. ugen4.3: ELECOM CO., LTD. at usbus4 umodem0: RNDIS COmmunications Control on usbus4 umodem0: data interface 1, has no CM over data, has no break This device is a NAT router, which has a (wired) ethernet interface for the WAN side. For the LAN side, it has a wireless interface and a USB interface. The USB interface has 2 configuration indexes. The config index 0 is recognized as umodem0, and config index 1 is recognized as ue0. For the usual case, I want it to be recognized as ue, which need a quirk to set the config index to 1. The user manual of this device says that, when I plug in the device to windows PC, the driver installation starts, and then it is recognized as an USB ethernet device. So, similar setting should be used for Windows. I do not know what the umodem of config index 0 is for. hrs@ who suggested me to use the quirk speculated that it might be used to update the firmware, but not sure. 2014-03-03 17:16 GMT+09:00 Hans Petter Selasky h...@bitfrost.no: If you upgrade to -stable there should be an RNDIS driver in FreeBSD now. Have you tried that: /boot/kernel/if_urndis.ko http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/262362 --HPS ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usb/187188: [USB][patch] ELECOM WRH-150 needs a quirk
The following reply was made to PR usb/187188; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hans Petter Selasky h...@bitfrost.no To: hiroo.ono+free...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-gnats-sub...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb/187188: [USB][patch] ELECOM WRH-150 needs a quirk Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:30:01 +0100 On 03/04/14 13:15, Hiroo Ono (å°éå¯ç) wrote: Hi, I have tried with stable r262711, and it is recognized as umodem0, same as with 10.0R. ugen4.3: ELECOM CO., LTD. at usbus4 umodem0: RNDIS COmmunications Control on usbus4 umodem0: data interface 1, has no CM over data, has no break This device is a NAT router, which has a (wired) ethernet interface for the WAN side. For the LAN side, it has a wireless interface and a USB interface. The USB interface has 2 configuration indexes. The config index 0 is recognized as umodem0, and config index 1 is recognized as ue0. For the usual case, I want it to be recognized as ue, which need a quirk to set the config index to 1. The user manual of this device says that, when I plug in the device to windows PC, the driver installation starts, and then it is recognized as an USB ethernet device. So, similar setting should be used for Windows. I do not know what the umodem of config index 0 is for. hrs@ who suggested me to use the quirk speculated that it might be used to update the firmware, but not sure. 2014-03-03 17:16 GMT+09:00 Hans Petter Selasky h...@bitfrost.no: If you upgrade to -stable there should be an RNDIS driver in FreeBSD now. Have you tried that: /boot/kernel/if_urndis.ko http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/262362 --HPS Hi, I understand, sounds good. I thought it was providing a USB RNDIS ethernet interface and not a modem by looking at the USB descriptors you sent. --HPS ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usb/187188: commit references a PR
The following reply was made to PR usb/187188; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfil...@freebsd.org (dfilter service) To: bug-follo...@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: usb/187188: commit references a PR Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:33:26 + (UTC) Author: hselasky Date: Tue Mar 4 12:33:18 2014 New Revision: 262732 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/262732 Log: Add new quirk. MFC after: 1 week PR: usb/187188 Submitted by:Hiroo Ono hiroo.ono+free...@gmail.com Modified: head/sys/dev/usb/quirk/usb_quirk.c head/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs Modified: head/sys/dev/usb/quirk/usb_quirk.c == --- head/sys/dev/usb/quirk/usb_quirk.c Tue Mar 4 11:43:01 2014 (r262731) +++ head/sys/dev/usb/quirk/usb_quirk.c Tue Mar 4 12:33:18 2014 (r262732) @@ -93,6 +93,7 @@ static struct usb_quirk_entry usb_quirks USB_QUIRK(TELEX, MIC1, 0x009, 0x009, UQ_AU_NO_FRAC), USB_QUIRK(SILICONPORTALS, YAPPHONE, 0x100, 0x100, UQ_AU_INP_ASYNC), USB_QUIRK(LOGITECH, UN53B, 0x, 0x, UQ_NO_STRINGS), + USB_QUIRK(REALTEK, RTL8196EU, 0x, 0x, UQ_CFG_INDEX_1), USB_QUIRK(ELSA, MODEM1, 0x, 0x, UQ_CFG_INDEX_1), USB_QUIRK(PLANEX2, MZKUE150N, 0x, 0x, UQ_CFG_INDEX_1), /* Quirks for printer devices */ Modified: head/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs == --- head/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs Tue Mar 4 11:43:01 2014(r262731) +++ head/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs Tue Mar 4 12:33:18 2014(r262732) @@ -3688,6 +3688,7 @@ product REALTEK RTL8188CU_1 0x817a RTL81 product REALTEK RTL8188CU_2 0x817b RTL8188CU product REALTEK RTL8187 0x8187 RTL8187 Wireless Adapter product REALTEK RTL8187B_00x8189 RTL8187B Wireless Adapter +product REALTEK RTL8196EU 0x8196 RTL8196EU product REALTEK RTL8187B_10x8197 RTL8187B Wireless Adapter product REALTEK RTL8187B_20x8198 RTL8187B Wireless Adapter product REALTEK RTL8188CUS0x818a RTL8188CUS ___ svn-src-...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: consistent, functional 1TB usb drive?
On Tue, 3/4/14, Erich Dollansky er...@alogt.com wrote: just buy cheap USB cases and put any drive you want in. Will this result in a quirkless installation, or will I just be moving the problem farther down the cable? If all drives will behave themselves, then perhaps this truly is the best option. Seems like all the other drives I've purchased are technically just laptop drives in a plastic case, but maybe a case designed for swapping in and out unspecified drives will be more universal. Thanks for the tip. On Tue, 3/4/14, Gary Jennejohn gljennj...@gmail.com wrote: I have two 1TB USB3 external drives from Toshiba (laptop drives in a plastic enclosure) which work with both FreeBSD and Windows7. Don't know whether these are still available. Seems to me I bought them cheap on eBay or amazon. The issue I'm running into is consistent availability. I want to get one, test it, then get maybe half a dozen more once I'm sure it works, and have the option to get a few down the road as replacements/additions are necessary. They don't all have to be the same model, but we need the ability to just buy more when needed, not start the experimentation phase again. I suppose that's a tall order, but maybe the external swap case will solve the problem. Thanks to both of you for the input! Leif ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: consistent, functional 1TB usb drive?
Hi, On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:37:34 -0800 (PST) Velcro Leaf velcrol...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Tue, 3/4/14, Erich Dollansky er...@alogt.com wrote: just buy cheap USB cases and put any drive you want in. Will this result in a quirkless installation, or will I just be moving the problem farther down the cable? If all drives will behave themselves, then perhaps this truly is the best option. Seems like all the other drives I've purchased are technically just laptop drives in a plastic case, but maybe a case designed for swapping in and out unspecified drives will be more universal. there is one chip in the case which is important. Some behave strangely. If you really get a case which is not supported, get a new one as it is not much money. The drive is still yours and is not affected. A side effect is that you can choose the drive. Thanks for the tip. On Tue, 3/4/14, Gary Jennejohn gljennj...@gmail.com wrote: I have two 1TB USB3 external drives from Toshiba (laptop drives in a plastic enclosure) which work with both FreeBSD and Windows7. Don't know whether these are still available. Seems to me I bought them cheap on eBay or amazon. The issue I'm running into is consistent availability. I want to get one, test it, then get maybe half a dozen more once I'm sure it works, and have the option to get a few down the road as replacements/additions are necessary. They don't all have to be the same model, but we need the ability to just buy more when needed, not start the experimentation phase again. I suppose that's a tall order, but maybe the external swap case will solve the problem. Do not think of swapping. Just buy the number of cases you will need. I go currently for something called 'rock'. It might be over the top for you as the case comes with a small bag making it look like a wallet. This is important for me as an extra protection while travelling. If you need them just in the office, it is a waste of extra money. I buy them always in the same shop. If something would be really wrong, I can give them back. Erich ___ freebsd-usb@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-usb-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
