ATA controller and Hyper-V "synthetic storage driver" handle the IDE disks devices ( but not for the CD-ROM) Re: Hyper-V on FreeBSD

2013-05-07 Thread Victor Miasnikov

Hi!


prevent default OS driver from attaching to emulated ATA controller when Hyper-V


Disable both primary and secondary ATA controller prevent use CD-ROM device in 
VM ( guest)

Because "synthetic storage driver" not handle CD-ROM devices
( IMHO, even more: Hyper-V host work with CD-ROM only as "PCI bus" device)


Best regards, Victor Miasnikov
Blog:  http://vvm.blog.tut.by/

P.S.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-virtualization/2013-April/001180.html
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. . .
On 23.04.2013 17:07, Larry Melia wrote:
. . .

Removing our ATA patches, on the other hand, results in a huge
performance loss. This is because the root file system is managed by the
ATA driver, which is emulated under Hyper-V. 

==

Place on IDE disk only "\boot" ( and bootloader), other on SCSI .


P.P.S.

Larry, I'm found Youre 3 e-mail accounts, You use all 3 ?

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Re: ATA controller and Hyper-V "synthetic storage driver" handle the IDE disks devices ( but not for the CD-ROM) Re: Hyper-V on FreeBSD

2013-05-07 Thread Alexander Motin

On 07.05.2013 10:40, Victor Miasnikov wrote:

prevent default OS driver from attaching to emulated ATA controller
when Hyper-V


Disable both primary and secondary ATA controller prevent use CD-ROM
device in VM ( guest)

Because "synthetic storage driver" not handle CD-ROM devices
( IMHO, even more: Hyper-V host work with CD-ROM only as "PCI bus" device)


Then may be possibility of blocking/hiding specific ATA channels or 
devices could be investigated.



http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-virtualization/2013-April/001180.html

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. . .
On 23.04.2013 17:07, Larry Melia wrote:
. . .

Removing our ATA patches, on the other hand, results in a huge
performance loss. This is because the root file system is managed by the
ATA driver, which is emulated under Hyper-V.

==

Place on IDE disk only "\boot" ( and bootloader), other on SCSI .


May be instead of splitting filesystem it could be better to boot from 
"SCSI" completely and forget about "ATA"? Or there is no option ROM for 
SCSI boot in Hyper-V?


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Alexander Motin
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Re: ATA controller and Hyper-V "synthetic storage driver" handle the IDE disks devices ( but not for the CD-ROM) Re: Hyper-V on FreeBSD

2013-05-07 Thread Victor Miasnikov

Hi!



On 07.05.2013 10:40, Victor Miasnikov wrote:

prevent default OS driver from attaching to emulated ATA controller
when Hyper-V


Disable both primary and secondary ATA controller prevent use CD-ROM
device in VM ( guest)

Because "synthetic storage driver" not handle CD-ROM devices
( IMHO, even more: Hyper-V host work with CD-ROM only as "PCI bus" device)



A.M.> Then may be possibility of blocking/hiding specific ATA channels or
A.M.> devices could be investigated.

IMHO, this ( or some like this) must be investigated
In any case, need carefully testing work CD-ROM ( primary for LiveCD and (or) .ISO for setup FreeBSD) in Hyper-V 
enviroment




http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-virtualization/2013-April/001180.html

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. . .
On 23.04.2013 17:07, Larry Melia wrote:
. . .

L.M.>>> Removing our ATA patches, on the other hand, results in a huge
L.M.>>> performance loss. This is because the root file system is managed by the
L.M.>>> ATA driver, which is emulated under Hyper-V.

==

VVM>>
VVM>> Place on IDE disk only "\boot" ( and bootloader), other on SCSI .
VVM>>
A.M.>
A.M.> May be instead of splitting filesystem it could be better to boot from
A.M.> "SCSI" completely and forget about "ATA"?
A.M.> Or there is no option ROM for SCSI boot in Hyper-V?
A.M.>

Yes, boot from SCSI disk in Hyper-V VM ( "guest") is impossible


Best regards, Victor Miasnikov
Blog:  http://vvm.blog.tut.by/



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Re: VirtualBox + FreeBSD 9-STABLE == Frozen Ethernet

2013-05-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On 2013-05-06 2:49 PM, Norbert Beckmann wrote:

To Marc G. Fournier

I do not think it's an issue with VirtualBox. I am running VirtualBox
under Solaris. And I never had problems with it.
Guests: ubuntu, Windows 7, Linux Mint, FreeBSD, Chrome OS.
But the people of VirtualBox themselves state that Windows is somewhat
delicate (don't remember whether they meant as guest or as host, I 
think both).

Which would be comprehensible, because Windows has never become a real
multi user / multi process system as Unix was by birth (nearly).
I can neither help concerning the freezing Ethernet nor did I encounter
similar things (as far as I remember).
My first thought is that its something in the vboxnet kernel module when 
using a bridge ... I think the problem has been getting progressively 
worse, with each upgrade, but since I upgrade both vBox and the kernel 
in tandem, I'm currently working on going 'back in time' with the code, 
see if I can find some 'stable point' ...


If anyone with more knowledge can suggest any commands I can run to 
provide debug info, or such ... ?  I don't mind debugging, just dont' 
know what to provide that is useful ...



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