[Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[Jacob Nevins]

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 Summary: Mac packages for 2.2.7
 Project: Freeciv
Submitted by: jtn
Submitted on: Sat Jul 16 21:51:17 2011
 Should Start On: Sat Jul 16 00:00:00 2011
   Should be Finished on: Sat Jul 23 00:00:00 2011
Category: None
Priority: 5 - Normal
  Status: None
 Privacy: Public
Percent Complete: 0%
 Assigned to: bitaxis
 Open/Closed: Open
 Discussion Lock: Any
  Effort: 0.00
 Planned Release: 2.2.7

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[Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[Jacob Nevins]

Follow-up Comment #1, task #7426 (project freeciv):

I see a freeciv-2.2.7-lion-gtk2.dmg was uploaded to SF / Gna last Wednesday
(thanks). So this is done now, I think?

(I don't know much about the Mac OS, but this forum post
 indicates that this
version won't run on Leopard, and presumably prior versions. I assume it will
no longer be possible to produce packages that run on Leopard, so our advice
to remaining Leopard users should be to compile it from source using MacPorts
or similar. What about Snow Leopard -- is the "lion" binary not expected to
run there either?)

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[Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[Jacob Nevins]

Update of task #7426 (project freeciv):

 Open/Closed:Open => Closed 


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[Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[Jacob Nevins]

Update of task #7426 (project freeciv):

  Status:None => Done   


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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[Nathan Brazil]

Hi.  I don't have a Snow Leopard system that would allow me to test whether the 
binaries I produced on Lion will run on the older OS or not, so I am choosing 
to err on the safer side of not.  If someone were able to test it out, that'd 
be great.

However, I have no reason to believe that Freeciv won't run on Snow Leopard or 
Leopard via MacPorts.

Regards,

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On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:36 AM, Jacob Nevins wrote:

> 
> Follow-up Comment #1, task #7426 (project freeciv):
> 
> I see a freeciv-2.2.7-lion-gtk2.dmg was uploaded to SF / Gna last Wednesday
> (thanks). So this is done now, I think?
> 
> (I don't know much about the Mac OS, but this forum post
>  indicates that this
> version won't run on Leopard, and presumably prior versions. I assume it will
> no longer be possible to produce packages that run on Leopard, so our advice
> to remaining Leopard users should be to compile it from source using MacPorts
> or similar. What about Snow Leopard -- is the "lion" binary not expected to
> run there either?)
> 
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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[David Lowe]

On 17 Aug, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Nathan Brazil wrote:

> Hi.  I don't have a Snow Leopard system that would allow me to test whether 
> the binaries I produced on Lion will run on the older OS or not, so I am 
> choosing to err on the safer side of not.  If someone were able to test it 
> out, that'd be great.
> 
> However, I have no reason to believe that Freeciv won't run on Snow Leopard 
> or Leopard via MacPorts.

Actually, that is questionable.  XCode 4 [the one that comes with Lion] 
no longer includes SDKs or other support for 10.5 or indeed anything that might 
be able to run on a PowerPC.  There are how-tos on the web to pull that 
material out of XCode 3 and install it on Lion, but it won't natively be able 
to target those earlier versions.  Unless MacPorts has their own headers, i 
don't see how they can work around this problem.  I am also involved with Fink, 
and we are wrestling with this issue as well.  This won't affect 
self-compilation, only cross-compilation.  Therefore, MacPorts and Fink users 
who use their respective system to locally build a binary won't notice a 
problem.

Anyway, i do have both 10.5 and 10.6 systems i can try this on in a few 
days...

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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[David Lowe]

On 17 Aug, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Nathan Brazil wrote:

> However, I have no reason to believe that Freeciv won't run on Snow Leopard 
> or Leopard via MacPorts.

The provided binary does not run on SL; i didn't bother checking 
Leopard.

Do we have a policy on which versions of OSX we support?  If not, maybe 
we should have a conversation toward that end.  As a starting position i'd like 
to suggest that our binaries should be able to run on OSX versions that are 
officially supported by Apple [10.7, 10.6], as well as the previous version 
[10.5].  Yes, that does mean continuing to supply PPC binaries for a few years 
more.

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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[Marko Lindqvist]

On 20 August 2011 02:12, David Lowe  wrote:
>
>        Do we have a policy on which versions of OSX we support?  If not, 
> maybe we should have a conversation toward that end.  As a starting position 
> i'd like to suggest that our binaries should be able to run on OSX versions 
> that are officially supported by Apple [10.7, 10.6], as well as the previous 
> version [10.5].  Yes, that does mean continuing to supply PPC binaries for a 
> few years more.
>

Do we have people able to do those builds? If not, stating (binary)
support in some official policy will not make it to happen. Having it
never-actually-executed part of our policy would only make one to
doubt reliability of our official policies in general.

 Source code support is different thing altogether, of course. We
should not break things so that *nobody* can build freeciv on OSX
version still supported by Apple. That's basically equivalent of how
we are not going to increase minimum autoconf requirement past what
any still supported ubuntu releases (including oldish LTS ones) have.


 - ML

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Re: [Freeciv-Dev] [task #7426] Mac packages for 2.2.7

[David Lowe]

On 19 Aug, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Marko Lindqvist wrote:

> Do we have people able to do those builds? If not, stating (binary)
> support in some official policy will not make it to happen. Having it
> never-actually-executed part of our policy would only make one to
> doubt reliability of our official policies in general.

Yeah, that is a problem.  Volunteers will do what they are willing to 
do and i'm certainly don't want to force anybody to do otherwise.  OTOH, 
supplying binaries that only work in a sliver of currently running Macs is 
nearly the same as supplying no binaries at all.  I just feel that there is 
room for improvement [in a perfect world we would have a self-contained 
application bundle that doesn't need a password to install], and it can't hurt 
to ask if we as a project are happy with what we currently offer.

Back to the main topic, any sane build from a Snow Leopard or XCode 3 
system *should* be able to run on all Intel Macs - only PPC support adds any 
difficulty.

> Source code support is different thing altogether, of course.

I fully agree.

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