Re: [Freecol-developers] Hello FreeCol Team!
Hi Michael, I noticed you mention the ram issues below. Can I make a suggestion and do maybe like mine craft does. If you have mod's for example you can through the curse launcher remove the system allocated amount of ram and manually allocate an amount lets say 8 or 9 gb of ram if you know it needs it. Maybe a manual specification of ram allocation might be advantageous and help? Another thing that mine craft does is what called chunk loading when you are outside of a particular range a previous chunk is unloaded saving resources and doesn't cripple performance. What I am trying to say is if you are not looking at a particular location on the other end of the map unload it save the resources especially on the larger maps. Just some suggestions. Regards, Jonathan -Original Message- From: Michael T. Pope Sent: 05 December 2021 04:44 To: Stian Grenborgen Cc: freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freecol-developers] Hello FreeCol Team! On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 11:25:52 + Stian Grenborgen wrote: > > Activity has been weak this year... here is to a better 2022. > > I will definitely try to help make that dream come true ;-) > > Hoping you also have more time to spend in 2022, Mike! Well, its a low bar to jump:-) > > I doubt anyone is opposed to useful code refactorings, but we are > > *way* overdue to make a release, so the priority should be fix > > bugs/stabilize ATM. > > What are the bugs you consider to be blockers? The worst problem is that I am seeing severe slow down in large games. Or rather I was, I need to run my performance tests again following a computer upgrade. I suspect replacing an 8 year old machine including quadrupling the RAM may have helped, but there we already control the java memory allocation so in theory it should not. I should stop speculating and get the numbers. I will look through the bug list and follow up on other potential blockers. I posted on the subject a while back. > ...or should I just keep fixing stuff I encounter while making the game work > better on 4K? One of the top suspects for the slow down is the main map redrawing routines, so I am delighted to see you trying to untangle any part of the graphics. Certainly I think "broken on 4K" would count as a blocker. By all means though, work on what you think is best/interesting/fun. I am reluctant to do more than suggest what volunteer developers should do, let alone the project founder:-). Cheers, Mike Pope ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Hello FreeCol Team!
Hi Michael, The curse launcher is for games I can send some screen shots. Basically what it does when you install for example a Minecraft mod pack it creates a profile and that applies for each mod pack you install it installs into its own profile and there you can allow the system to manage the ram or allocate manually a fixed size of your choosing. If there is anything you would like me to try do let me know and I can try and assist. Regards, Jonathan -Original Message- From: Michael T. Pope Sent: 05 December 2021 07:32 To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: FreeCol Developers Subject: Re: [Freecol-developers] Hello FreeCol Team! On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 04:01:04 + Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I noticed you mention the ram issues below. Can I make a suggestion and do > maybe like mine craft does. If you have mod's for example you can through the > curse launcher remove the system allocated amount of ram and manually > allocate an amount lets say 8 or 9 gb of ram if you know it needs it. Maybe a > manual specification of ram allocation might be advantageous and help? FreeCol already sets its own limits on memory allocation. The slow down *may* be due to too much garbage collector activity within the memory we allocate, or perhaps a secondary effect through the operating system generally, or just that the amount is too small. Again, this is all speculation. I need to reproduce the problem and measure relevant values. Thanks for the suggestion, but I have no idea what the "curse launcher" is, and doubt it is something I can use on linux. Cheers, Mike Pope ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Java version
Sorry for the concern I just remember reading a license change on oracle jre and jdk as of java 11 i belive it was. Great game nice to see development still on going :) Wish I had time to play more :) Jonathan Aquilina On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:38 AM Michael T. Pope wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:50:48 +0200 > Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > I was under the impression and it was an incorrect one that freecol was > > built on the oracle version of java. If its based on openjdk no concern > > here. > > The FreeCol project does not require a specific Java implementation. If > someone wants to build it on openjdk, oracle Java, or > shark-mounted-laser Java that is fine. We do specify a minimum Java > language version, because we are primarily concerned with making code + > artwork + game resources rather than packaging. > > That said, we have traditionally distributed freecol packaged for various > platforms from the website as a convenience. The .jar files there are > built with whatever-the-release-manager-is-using Java. When I am the > release manager that has been openjdk, because that is conveniently > installed on my main development machine. Perhaps it was oracle Java in > the past, I do not know. I am pretty sure we have people running our .jar > or derivatives on non-openjdk run time environments, which is good. > > Cheers, > Mike Pope > > ___ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Java version
Hi Michael, I think there needs to be a bit of caution here as I think there has been a major paradigm shift in licensing of java. Jonathan Aquilina On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 1:57 PM Michael T. Pope wrote: > Quick heads up. According to wikipedia at least, Java 8 is scheduled to > be updated for the last time in December this year, so we should probably > move to Java 11 (the next one that has long term support) around then. > > The good news is that today while trying to find an out of memory bug > when testing large maps, I built FreeCol on an Ubuntu 18.04 box where Java > 11 was installed by default. There were three small problems, now fixed. > So I anticipate that the move will be trouble free. > > Cheers, > Mike Pope > ___ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
My concern is this. Is said person holding the domain still interested in the project and being involved. If not its best to easily have the domain transferred to someone who is more active like Michael for example. @Michael is freecol your baby that you have developed from the ground up? Jonathan Aquilina On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:40 AM wrote: > This was all before I joined the project. My assumption had always been he > is only to be contacted in case of emergency. > We should only disturb them after everything is decided, and then it would > fall on Mike, as he is the one who knows them. > > > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Januar 2020 um 09:30 Uhr > *Von:* "Jonathan Aquilina" > *An:* win...@genial.ms > *Cc:* "FreeCol Developers" > *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes > Has anyone tried to contact him? > > Jonathan Aquilina > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:29 AM wrote: > >> As I tried to say, Stian or another inactive project member is >> controlling the domain records, which means it is not that easy. >> >> >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Januar 2020 um 09:20 Uhr >> *Von:* "Jonathan Aquilina" >> *An:* win...@genial.ms >> *Cc:* "David Lewis" , "FreeCol Developers" < >> freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> >> *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes >> Hi Winter, >> >> You are worried about breaking the domain, there is an easy solution to >> that you would need to add a CNAME (Alias) record on DNS which will point >> to the .io site so if i go to the .org it would redirect me to the alias .io >> >> Jonathan Aquilina >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:18 AM wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> a few days ago when reading SF webserver documentation, I saw that you >>> could switch over from PHP5 to PHP7. >>> It's just that we are completely HTML only without a single .php file >>> remaining -- that's why I saw no use in doing it. >>> If you switch over the domain would change from .net to .io, possibly >>> breaking our .org domain, depending on how it is configured. This might >>> also break some direct links to the .net subdomain somewhere. >>> We would get https on the .io domain, but certificates are bound to the >>> domain not ip, thats why I doubt it would work correctly on our .org domain. >>> There is still some old files on the ftp for the webserver in the >>> directory above the htdocs directory for the website -- these will need a >>> backup before a switchover! >>> I would not click the switch over button, without Stian and/or whoever >>> controls the .org domain giving his ok. >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> wintertime >>> >>> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Januar 2020 um 06:31 Uhr >>> *Von:* "David Lewis" >>> *An:* "Michael T. Pope" >>> *Cc:* "FreeCol Developers" >>> *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes >>> Lol, bizarre. >>> >>> Yay for Yahoo filtering. >>> >>> I don't know that the forums would be moved. >>> I think we may just leave those as is on SF. overall I really don't see >>> a need to transition absolutely everything over to github from source >>> forge, just primarily the code base and the website. And also probably the >>> ticket tracker to GitHub issues. >>> >>> I don't really see a need to abandon SF entirely. >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 9:26 PM Michael T. Pope wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 23:19:14 +0100 >>>> win...@genial.ms wrote: >>>> > I was anticipating of moving the website over to GitHub someday, but >>>> it's kinda surprising you'd like to move over the domain so fast when the >>>> other stuff is still on SF? >>>> >>>> Quite so. I wish people who want to move stuff around would >>>> at the very least come up with a plan that includes the hard >>>> problems, like how to move the forums. The website is easy. >>>> >>>> > Would it be easier to get https support for the freecol.org domain >>>> on GitHub? >>>> >>>> That is a timely remark. Yesterday while I was trying to work out who >>>> has >>>> permission to update the SF website I came across something new[1]: >>>> >>>> Your website is currently hosted at >>>> http://freecol.s
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
Has anyone tried to contact him? Jonathan Aquilina On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:29 AM wrote: > As I tried to say, Stian or another inactive project member is controlling > the domain records, which means it is not that easy. > > > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Januar 2020 um 09:20 Uhr > *Von:* "Jonathan Aquilina" > *An:* win...@genial.ms > *Cc:* "David Lewis" , "FreeCol Developers" < > freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes > Hi Winter, > > You are worried about breaking the domain, there is an easy solution to > that you would need to add a CNAME (Alias) record on DNS which will point > to the .io site so if i go to the .org it would redirect me to the alias .io > > Jonathan Aquilina > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:18 AM wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> a few days ago when reading SF webserver documentation, I saw that you >> could switch over from PHP5 to PHP7. >> It's just that we are completely HTML only without a single .php file >> remaining -- that's why I saw no use in doing it. >> If you switch over the domain would change from .net to .io, possibly >> breaking our .org domain, depending on how it is configured. This might >> also break some direct links to the .net subdomain somewhere. >> We would get https on the .io domain, but certificates are bound to the >> domain not ip, thats why I doubt it would work correctly on our .org domain. >> There is still some old files on the ftp for the webserver in the >> directory above the htdocs directory for the website -- these will need a >> backup before a switchover! >> I would not click the switch over button, without Stian and/or whoever >> controls the .org domain giving his ok. >> >> Greetings >> >> wintertime >> >> >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Januar 2020 um 06:31 Uhr >> *Von:* "David Lewis" >> *An:* "Michael T. Pope" >> *Cc:* "FreeCol Developers" >> *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes >> Lol, bizarre. >> >> Yay for Yahoo filtering. >> >> I don't know that the forums would be moved. >> I think we may just leave those as is on SF. overall I really don't see a >> need to transition absolutely everything over to github from source forge, >> just primarily the code base and the website. And also probably the ticket >> tracker to GitHub issues. >> >> I don't really see a need to abandon SF entirely. >> >> David >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 9:26 PM Michael T. Pope wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 23:19:14 +0100 >>> win...@genial.ms wrote: >>> > I was anticipating of moving the website over to GitHub someday, but >>> it's kinda surprising you'd like to move over the domain so fast when the >>> other stuff is still on SF? >>> >>> Quite so. I wish people who want to move stuff around would >>> at the very least come up with a plan that includes the hard >>> problems, like how to move the forums. The website is easy. >>> >>> > Would it be easier to get https support for the freecol.org domain on >>> GitHub? >>> >>> That is a timely remark. Yesterday while I was trying to work out who >>> has >>> permission to update the SF website I came across something new[1]: >>> >>> Your website is currently hosted at >>> http://freecol.sourceforge.net with PHP 5.4 >>> >>> To update to https://freecol.sourceforge.io and PHP >>> 7.x, click the button below. >>> There will be a small delay for it to take effect. You >>> may switch back if needed. >>> >>> I propose to click the button. There is also some interesting stuff >>> about >>> github connections which I have yet to read. More soon. >>> >>> >>> And in the special D Blakeley section:-): Blake, yahoo is not >>> accepting mail from my ISP, who are sending me messages like: >>> >>> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. >>> >>> THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. >>> >>> YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. >>> >>> Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. >>> >>> >>> >>> The reason for the problem: >>> 4.3.2 - Not accepting messages at this time 421-'4.7.0 [TSS04] >>> Messages from 150.101.137.19 temporarily deferred due to user complaints - >>> 4.16.55.1; see https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN3434.html' >>> >>> Given that I am with internode who have won a bunch of customer service >>> awards, and you are with yahoo, who... hasn't, I am guessing the problem >>> is at your end. Now we just need someone to quote this email so Blake >>> sees it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Mike Pope >>> >>> [1] "New" as in "added since I last looked around about a year ago" >>> >> >> >> > ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
Hi Winter, You are worried about breaking the domain, there is an easy solution to that you would need to add a CNAME (Alias) record on DNS which will point to the .io site so if i go to the .org it would redirect me to the alias .io Jonathan Aquilina On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:18 AM wrote: > Hi, > > a few days ago when reading SF webserver documentation, I saw that you > could switch over from PHP5 to PHP7. > It's just that we are completely HTML only without a single .php file > remaining -- that's why I saw no use in doing it. > If you switch over the domain would change from .net to .io, possibly > breaking our .org domain, depending on how it is configured. This might > also break some direct links to the .net subdomain somewhere. > We would get https on the .io domain, but certificates are bound to the > domain not ip, thats why I doubt it would work correctly on our .org domain. > There is still some old files on the ftp for the webserver in the > directory above the htdocs directory for the website -- these will need a > backup before a switchover! > I would not click the switch over button, without Stian and/or whoever > controls the .org domain giving his ok. > > Greetings > > wintertime > > > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Januar 2020 um 06:31 Uhr > *Von:* "David Lewis" > *An:* "Michael T. Pope" > *Cc:* "FreeCol Developers" > *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes > Lol, bizarre. > > Yay for Yahoo filtering. > > I don't know that the forums would be moved. > I think we may just leave those as is on SF. overall I really don't see a > need to transition absolutely everything over to github from source forge, > just primarily the code base and the website. And also probably the ticket > tracker to GitHub issues. > > I don't really see a need to abandon SF entirely. > > David > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 9:26 PM Michael T. Pope wrote: > >> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 23:19:14 +0100 >> win...@genial.ms wrote: >> > I was anticipating of moving the website over to GitHub someday, but >> it's kinda surprising you'd like to move over the domain so fast when the >> other stuff is still on SF? >> >> Quite so. I wish people who want to move stuff around would >> at the very least come up with a plan that includes the hard >> problems, like how to move the forums. The website is easy. >> >> > Would it be easier to get https support for the freecol.org domain on >> GitHub? >> >> That is a timely remark. Yesterday while I was trying to work out who has >> permission to update the SF website I came across something new[1]: >> >> Your website is currently hosted at >> http://freecol.sourceforge.net with PHP 5.4 >> >> To update to https://freecol.sourceforge.io and PHP 7.x, >> click the button below. >> There will be a small delay for it to take effect. You >> may switch back if needed. >> >> I propose to click the button. There is also some interesting stuff about >> github connections which I have yet to read. More soon. >> >> >> And in the special D Blakeley section:-): Blake, yahoo is not >> accepting mail from my ISP, who are sending me messages like: >> >> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. >> >> THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. >> >> YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. >> >> Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. >> >> >> >> The reason for the problem: >> 4.3.2 - Not accepting messages at this time 421-'4.7.0 [TSS04] >> Messages from 150.101.137.19 temporarily deferred due to user complaints - >> 4.16.55.1; see https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN3434.html' >> >> Given that I am with internode who have won a bunch of customer service >> awards, and you are with yahoo, who... hasn't, I am guessing the problem >> is at your end. Now we just need someone to quote this email so Blake >> sees it. >> >> Cheers, >> Mike Pope >> >> [1] "New" as in "added since I last looked around about a year ago" >> > > > > ___ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
Hi Winter, Wordpress you wont have to create or code a theme as loads are available. I am even willing to contribute a premium paid theme i purchased for your use as its really highly customizable and loads of premade layouts and easy to create new page layouts with WPBakery. This is a drag and drop element system you then just need to add info etc that you want to that element. Jonathan Aquilina On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:45 AM wrote: > Hi, > > I can assure you, the whole reason for me to introduce Jekyll is to make > it easy for others to contribute, by separating code(theme) and content. > You saw the html-tag-soup we had for a while, where it's difficult to find > what you need and where to add something. > The goal is to have it as easy as dropping a markdown file (like the one I > attached to the mail yesterday) in the right place. Older pages will > probably stay in html, but loose all the surrounding cruft, only contain > the content (with a few img, ul, li, div, p, a, br) and can later be easily > replaced with markdown on demand. > As we are on SF we need to type the compilation command and upload its > result, but otherwise it'll be same as for the many people having GitHub > pages. > > Working on the theme will be a little more complicated, but easier than > creating a WordPress theme. Still, after cleaning up all existing pages to > use the template, I plan on upgrading and simplifying its html and css. > Moving over to WordPress would need conversion of existing content and most > likely creation of a theme, too. > > Greetings > > wintertime > > > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 02. Januar 2020 um 08:18 Uhr > *Von:* "D Blakeley via Freecol-developers" < > freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > *An:* "David Lewis" , "Jonathan Aquilina" < > eagles051...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* "FreeCol Developers" > *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes > > *> thing is the community will need someone versed in website coding and > styling if that person leaves there is a bit of an issue there.* > > That's exactly what worries me. This Jekyll thing sounds like its not > going to be something the average guy (eg me) can use which means I won't > be able to help you guys move content over and do my ideas of creating new > video & screenshot sections etc. Plus Winter's gonna be too busy in a few > weeks & isn't going to want people pestering him about site issues plus > mikes busy with other stuff (eg the game itself lol) and isn't going to > want to be bothered about website stuff, but if its not easy to use that's > exactly whats going to happen lol. > > BTW Mike since your catching up on msgs don't forget this ;P > > https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/discussion/719661/thread/42b0844f/#a702/9e85/07a6/d983/f301 > > Need your help, or need you to help David so he can help me haha > > > Regards > > blake > > > > On Thursday, 2 January 2020, 03:34:09 pm ACDT, Jonathan Aquilina < > eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > That is another good option, thing is the community will need someone > versed in website coding and styling if that person leaves there is a bit > of an issue there. > > > Jonathan Aquilina > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:36 AM David Lewis > wrote: > > We do have the option of using GitHub pages, which works well for Jekyll, > and free for OSS. They website would be driven directly from Git and > wouldn't need to worry about FTP access. > > David > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 8:27 PM Michael T. Pope wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 06:15:09 +0100 > Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > This is really up to those in charge to take the decision but the hosting > > offer still stands. SF can be a huge pain in the rump though. > > I too appreciate the offer, but I am reluctant to split the project over > yet more sites. SF has its disadvantages, but we have no replacement for > the SF forums. Meanwhile I am hopeful the new static generator will reduce > the maintenance pain in the long term. > > Apologies for the slow reply, sorting out the bug list and mail backlog is > taking me a while. > > Cheers, > Mike Pope > > ___ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > > ___ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > ___ Freecol-developers mailing > list Freecol-developers@lists.sourcefo
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
David, Re wordpress, I run a very tight ship on my cpanel server. Anyone trying to brute force an account more or less unless i know its legitimate and someone accidentally blocked themselves by typing in the password incorrectly i usually let those slide anything else is blocked at the firewall of this server. I also use Wordfence which is a very strong and powerful WAF for wordpress, alerts you to attacks on user credentials ip origins etc. From a security aspect i think wordpress has come a really long way since v3 when i started using it. Jonathan Aquilina On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:23 PM David Lewis wrote: > I would echo your sentiments about WordPress. I used to be a Drupal / WP > Dev for Disney some years ago and I would steer very far away from the > WordPress platform, it'll give way more problems than it's worth. > Especially security wise. > > Jekyll is probably the easiest method to come up with. It'll have the > lowest bar for coding and maintenance. You'll find it super easy, Blake. > It's more of a markdown formatter, so you write pages in Markdown instead > of HTML. Templates are in HTML CSS, but most of the time you don't need to > touch these unless you want a special customization or new feature added, > but the content itself is just all markdown docs. > > I'll try my access when I get to a computer, I haven't tried yet. > > David > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 1:07 AM Michael T. Pope wrote: > >> >>[Jonathan] >> >> thing is the community will need someone versed in website coding and >> styling if that person leaves there is a bit of an issue there. >> >> This has always been the case. >> >> >[D Blakeley] >> > That's exactly what worries me. This Jekyll thing sounds like its not >> going to be something the average guy (eg me) can use... >> >> AFAICT if you want to write content, then use of Jekyll means you have to >> write in Markdown. You are going to have to be pretty average to find >> Markdown a high bar:-). >> >> If you want to build the site you will need a working Jekyll install, >> which might be trickier. >> >> The actual upload to SF is straightforward, but you need permission. I >> have looked at the SF permissions, and remain confused. However if >> winterime is able to upload (which is good) David should have the same >> permissions. David, have you tried: >> >> sftp $USERNAME,free...@web.sf.net >> >> with your SF username and credentials? >> >> >> Anyway... generally with respect to the website I really do not have a >> many strong opinion about how or what it looks like. I am delighted >> people are working on it again, and I am trying to help but mostly keep >> out of the way. What I do care about is that it be low maintenance >> because as Jonathan rightly reminds us above, people leave. However I do >> not share Jonathan's enthusiasm for Wordpress... one CMS debacle was >> enough. >> >> Cheers, >> Mike Pope >> >> >> ___ >> Freecol-developers mailing list >> Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers >> > ___ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
Hi Mike, Why I am advocating wordpress you do not need to know html, css or markdown. Just put in plain text and the inner workings of the wordpress theme and wordpress core take care of the rest. Jonathan Aquilina On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:07 AM Michael T. Pope wrote: > >>[Jonathan] > >> thing is the community will need someone versed in website coding and > styling if that person leaves there is a bit of an issue there. > > This has always been the case. > > >[D Blakeley] > > That's exactly what worries me. This Jekyll thing sounds like its not > going to be something the average guy (eg me) can use... > > AFAICT if you want to write content, then use of Jekyll means you have to > write in Markdown. You are going to have to be pretty average to find > Markdown a high bar:-). > > If you want to build the site you will need a working Jekyll install, > which might be trickier. > > The actual upload to SF is straightforward, but you need permission. I > have looked at the SF permissions, and remain confused. However if > winterime is able to upload (which is good) David should have the same > permissions. David, have you tried: > > sftp $USERNAME,free...@web.sf.net > > with your SF username and credentials? > > > Anyway... generally with respect to the website I really do not have a > many strong opinion about how or what it looks like. I am delighted > people are working on it again, and I am trying to help but mostly keep > out of the way. What I do care about is that it be low maintenance > because as Jonathan rightly reminds us above, people leave. However I do > not share Jonathan's enthusiasm for Wordpress... one CMS debacle was > enough. > > Cheers, > Mike Pope > > > ___ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
That is another good option, thing is the community will need someone versed in website coding and styling if that person leaves there is a bit of an issue there. Jonathan Aquilina On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:36 AM David Lewis wrote: > We do have the option of using GitHub pages, which works well for Jekyll, > and free for OSS. They website would be driven directly from Git and > wouldn't need to worry about FTP access. > > David > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 8:27 PM Michael T. Pope wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 06:15:09 +0100 >> Jonathan Aquilina wrote: >> > This is really up to those in charge to take the decision but the >> hosting >> > offer still stands. SF can be a huge pain in the rump though. >> >> I too appreciate the offer, but I am reluctant to split the project over >> yet more sites. SF has its disadvantages, but we have no replacement for >> the SF forums. Meanwhile I am hopeful the new static generator will >> reduce >> the maintenance pain in the long term. >> >> Apologies for the slow reply, sorting out the bug list and mail backlog is >> taking me a while. >> >> Cheers, >> Mike Pope >> >> ___ >> Freecol-developers mailing list >> Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers >> > ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
Hey Michael, Technically with wordpress you still have the forums ability using bbpress. Uploads can be done on my server as well, I think the biggest advantage of moving to wordpress is that no coding know how is needed at all. simple text editor and boom ready to go also much easier to track revisions per page. Jonathan Aquilina On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:26 AM Michael T. Pope wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 06:15:09 +0100 > Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > This is really up to those in charge to take the decision but the hosting > > offer still stands. SF can be a huge pain in the rump though. > > I too appreciate the offer, but I am reluctant to split the project over > yet more sites. SF has its disadvantages, but we have no replacement for > the SF forums. Meanwhile I am hopeful the new static generator will reduce > the maintenance pain in the long term. > > Apologies for the slow reply, sorting out the bug list and mail backlog is > taking me a while. > > Cheers, > Mike Pope > > ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
Hi Guys, This is really up to those in charge to take the decision but the hosting offer still stands. SF can be a huge pain in the rump though. Jonathan Aquilina On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:15 AM D Blakeley via Freecol-developers < freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi guys, > > A few things to reply to! > > *Mike:* > I think Winter is after your thoughts/approval on his new site ideas. Also > I have just posted at this link below, if you could spare a moment to help > out a fellow Aussie I'd appreciate it thanks haha. Should be the last time > I have to pester you about a big sourceforge change as this really is the > last thing it needs to help your fans navigate to the right places! After > this in the future it just might be a thread sticky or 2 which I can pester > David about. > https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/discussion/719661/thread/42b0844f/#a702/9e85/07a6/d983/f301 > > *Winter:* > *> No, I do not want the website to gain even more warnings. I was hoping > we could* > *> decide on which pages with warnings are still useful, which could be > deleted.* > > Opps sorry I misread that part as I thought winter was referring to > heavily outdated sections of the site not labeled as such. Everyone ignore > what I said on that bit lol. > > *Jonathan:* > > *> I would be willing to sponsor some webhosting on my shared cpanel > server.* > *> I was thinking of setting up wordpress for the site?* > > Your later point was certainly what I was thinking as Wordpress is so darn > low maintenance and easy to use and controls the annoying sorting & > navigation of all the news items for you. Creating pages and posts is dead > easy too as its pretty much like a word doc editing but if you want full > control then you can access the html code behind the page editor too. It's > also pretty good for setting up separate non-news page sections too. Eg all > those project info and history pages etc could easily be copy & pasted to > wordpress section pages accessed through a wordpress main menu similar to > the existing sites menu options. Wordpress menu buttons also support drop > down options meaning all sub sections from the old site could be easily > brought across too. I use a wordpress blog for all my website news now > (separate from my main website thats store elsewhere), I don't use drop > down menus but if you click on either my 'Fav Fan Game Projects' or my > 'What's Blake Playing Right NOW' buttons you'll be taken to wordpress > hosted sections that are NOT part of the news blog. > https://blakessanctum.wordpress.com/ > > *Winter:* > > *> IIRC, one problem with this was the goal to keep all parts of the > project> on a single provider (like SF or GitHub).* > > But yeah as winter points out I don't think they want offsite hosting, as > fully accessible public hosting is better for everyone to help out on. I'm > not sure if a wordpress built site can be put into a SF/Github hosted area > but if it can then I'd be all for that as I can EASILY help in all areas of > moving content across and adding new news items etc. > > > *> Yes, I always found it the right decision to stop using a CMS, > especially* > > > > > > > > > > *> when nobody can commit to updating it regularly. I only have about a > month> before starting in my new job, not sure how much time I have then. > That's> why my main concern is to get the website into a fixed, sustainable > state> without need of much maintenance soon.> For that, I'd just like to > have it in a way to not need every news 3 times> and having links updated > automatically.> Maybe the way to get that could be static page generation > for news articles> before uploading? We would not need anything fancy, if > it could just find> a few magic tags in slightly modified current pages and > add articles from> text files and generate links to the articles, it would > be sufficient.* > > Well good thing I've got the next month off work because that means I can > help you try and sort this mess out into something low maintenance before > we both get busy again! :) > > And yeah if some sort of news making page can be constructed that does all > the inserting and news list management stuff for you on the existing site > that'd be fine too. As presumably then even someone like me could use it to > create news if needed lol! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *> as mentioned below, I'd like to add static page generation.> I think, > Jekyll would be nice for that:> - https://jekyllrb.com/ > <https://jekyllrb.com/>> - It would make it easier to add new > content/news.> - It
Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes
Hi Guys, I am not sure if you guys are up for a revamp but I would be willing to sponsor some webhosting on my shared cpanel server. It is kept secure and up to date, any ip's trying to brute force it are blocked at the firewall. I was thinking of setting up wordpress for the site? What do you guys think? Jonathan Aquilina On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 2:52 PM wrote: > Hi, > > yes I wrote these mostly to gather feedback from others, maybe Caleb, as > he did the > website stuff previously > . > No, I do not want the website to gain even more warnings. I was hoping we > could > decide on which pages with warnings are still useful, which could be > deleted. > > Besides, I know all changes are in sf git, that is why I think it's a > glitch in the update script. > If I had ftp access, I'd probably just put the newest version there > manually and look around > for the broken remains I mentioned earlier (which I also suspect coming > from the upload > script being glitched). > > I pretty much do not even know what is available to us on the server. > I only remember from reading previous discussions on mailing list, it is > not wanted to upload > any CMS or maybe even any server side programs at all, anymore, for > security reasons. > Now, pretty much everyone doesn't like having to add a new news article to > 3 pages and > then hunt around for links in need of updating. I'm sure this contributed > to the bitrotting. > I also would not like doing everything client side, as I feel everyone > should be able to > read a mostly static website without JavaScript enabled, but that would be > necessary, > if it can not be done server side. > Only remaining solution is cutting out the list pages, copy over the > sitemap and shorten it, > to only have each news items text in a single page. I never liked > pagination as a website user > anyways. > I also thought about letting it be in current form, now that I fixed all > broken links and other stuff. > This just encourages new brokenness developing again over time. > > Greetings, > > wintertime > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. Dezember 2019 um 11:19 Uhr > *Von:* "D Blakeley via Freecol-developers" < > freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > *An:* freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes > > Thanks Winter I'm looking forward to see all these changes you've been > busy on. As discussed in the forums something has gone wrong between sf & > github as when mike did the update some changes went on to the live site > but some didn't. > > *> - www.freecol.org/bugtracker <http://www.freecol.org/bugtracker> > contains broken remains not inside git,* > *> maybe same for www.freecol.org/featuretracker > <http://www.freecol.org/featuretracker> or other directories.* > *> Needs checking with ftp access?* > *> - Some older news items (I think 0.9.4 and older) contain broken* > *> bugtracker and featuretracker links, I do not have a replacement for.* > *> Are these still accessible somewhere in bugtracker or as changelogs?* > *> - Maybe fix the stuff in cv3-discoverer-english to be an actual,* > *> accessible html page?* > *> - Maybe look through docs, templates, images and create-new-article* > *> directories for things to update or delete?* > *> - [Maybe convert the xhtml1.0 transitional to html5?]* > > Unfortunately I'm no help to you with these ones as they are beyond my > skill sets and/or they require intimate knowledge of the sites workings and > history. But I'm guessing you were more after feedback from Mike and the > others on these anyway. > > *> - [Maybe clean up the div-soup and table-soup everywhere?]* > *> - [Maybe make the website prettier somehow?]* > > These ones I may be able to help you with, but with help and guidance. Eg > you guys overhaul one section, show it to me and then I attempt to > replicate the improvements across other sections. > And yes even with notepadd++ I struggled in that endless sea of broken > divs and tables. It's a such a mess you just get lost in it all! > > *> - Maybe update some pages with warnings about the being outdated or* > *> move or delete?* > > There's already a couple of outdated content warnings in yellow boxes on > some old pages of the site so just tell me which pages need the out of date > disclaimer and I'll just copy and paste a similar yellow box msg into them > all if you guys don't wish to delete. Easy! :) > > *> - Maybe add some new content?* > *> - When all is done, add news about website update.* > Now these I can be a BIG help to you guys on and I've got a few ideas I've > probably already mentioned
Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol Website
If we opt to go with static pages we can setup a website repo and then anyone can really make the changes then pull from the repo onto the webserver. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Caleb Williams cale...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: I am willing to put something together using bootstrap html5 and css3 if you guys like. If there is way to integrate what you do with a secure way to push updates, then I'm all for it. I personally wish to use WordPress or a more established (but more vulnerable CMS) is because it will be easier for me to assist with. If there is way to include (in the same sense as an include in PHP, but most likely in JS or jQuery) the project stats, as as currently seen in the site (but which have not been updated), then that's a huge bonus for me. Also, the graph with the lines of source code is always interesting for me to see on a site for a project like FreeCol too. The comments Bryce Harrington provided also give FreeCol a reference point for possible repository integration of some kind. Mike is generally correct in saying it's really only the news that would be updated (relatively) frequently, so unless someone started a Tips and Tricks blog or New features in the latest commit blog, then it would be very static otherwise. The latter two ideas would be good for community engagement if done frequently enough and could encourage more users to bug test the latest commits, thereby making the release versions that much better for the users that play solely the releases. Best, -- *Caleb R. Williams* -- Jonathan Aquilina -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol Website
Here I am goign to toot the wordpress horn here. If you want to lure new contributors to freecol including its website wordpress is the way to go you can also engage the user community through it. Security wise there are lots of plugins available to protect you and the site. As of version 4.1 i think it was they have full automated wordpress updates. so any new versions of wordpress which get released the CMS automatically upgrades itself as well. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Caleb Williams cale...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:21:37 +0200 win...@genial.ms wrote: I thought the discussion died off when everyone realized that for a page with 1 or 2 updates a year anything but static html ( plus maybe something like a markdown converter on the devs pc ) is a waste of time, That is slightly overstated, but mostly correct ATM. The last two releases have required me to grab the four(?) pages that need to change, locally edit the HTML (usually duplicating a previous paragraph and incrementing the release numbers), and uploading them again. It took less than 15 minutes last time, and that included adding some doco to .../doc/developer.tex. That is about right in terms of required effort from the release manager IMHO. It is certainly better than the old situation. There is a reason why editing HTML files directly have fallen out of favor. It's almost like a program with out loops (sure on a small scale it works, but image you're processing a database and you have to call each cell individually rather than looping through them). That said, you're correct in that there is not a huge need for FreeCol to run on a super advanced CMS setup. Even something like WordPres should work if only because it so simple. Tagging articles with the correct category (and the right template) could be a solution that's fairly easy to implement. Especially if Mr. Aquilina is willing to help. However, we are only doing point releases. A major release would be a bit trickier. If we ever have someone who actually wanted to add interesting content to the site we will probably want something better. It would need to be presentation-heavy content though, something that can not be served by just using the wiki[1]. The inherent benefit to a CMS is the scalability involved. Once the right system is in place, it can be updated indefinitely. as any server-based CMS is adding a million security holes and needs daily updates, to avoid having the page hacked constantly? I disagree, Wordpress seems mostly (insofar as anything ever is) secure these days. http://codex.wordpress.org/Hardening_WordPress Mostly agree again, wearing my security professional hat. What I would like to know is if there is some simple robust middle ground between editing raw HTML and massive CMSs. Not for free. There are almost certainly paid solutions available, but that seems out. The criteria for such a system are: 1. No maintenance required This implies secure. A working definition of a secure piece of software would be that I have never heard of it in a security context:-) That's never going to happen. See above. The benefit of an established CMS such as WordPress is going to the WYSIWYG editing capabilities. 2. Fast learning curve Because use is very rare Doesn't get easier than WordPress: - Write contnet - Choose categories - Publish Depending on the complexities of the plugins and theme, I suppose there could be more to it than that, but there generally doesn't need to be. 3. Someone who has some history with FreeCol wants to set it up and look after it Between the you, Johnathan and I, I think there are enough people to assist with that. I would't mind helping with the website if I don't have to worry about FTPing files and editing source code all the time. 4. Looks better than just using the wiki. [1] Indeed, perhaps we should just migrate the text-heavy parts of the old website to the wiki. I'm a huge opponent of using the SF-default wiki. It looks horrible. I'd be on board with using MediaWiki (but you wouldn't like all the security releases). Best, -- *Caleb R. Williams* -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina
Re: [Freecol-developers] Latest Git cannot load saved game
Could it be something with the code he had pulled in his system. I would also suggest a clean clone of the code from git to see if there is really a problem in the codebase to begin with. On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:33:35 -0500 Caleb Williams cale...@gmail.com wrote: I did just as you asked, ran ant clean and ant distclean and then recompiled [27aa48], and I still cannot load that file. I can not reproduce a problem either. The game loads fine for me, and if I unpack it and look at the point it goes wrong according to the crash in the log file, it also looks normal/not-corrupt. I added some more tracing in git.b542f46, that may shed further light on the problem. Cheers, Mike Pope -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol Website
Not that I am aware of On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Caleb Williams cale...@gmail.com wrote: Just a follow up on the conversation a few months ago about the FreeCol website. Was a back-end solution ever decided upon? Thanks, -- *Caleb R. Williams* -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol.app from MacOS installer does not run on OS X
I am offering to test this out give me a few min and I will come back with my findings. Is this the latest release version I should try out? On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Michael Berger michaelmber...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I just wanted a place I could refer people. I don't personally have a mac but I asked if anyone on our local computer science society would like to make a contribution. They're not subscribed to the mailing list so I wanted them to be able to to collaborate without spamming the list. I appreciate that it's early so when a bug gets posted, I'll forward a link. Thanks, Mike Berger On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: What version of freecol is being used and what version of Java is needed minimum Java 7+ Sent from my iPhone On 27 Mar 2015, at 23:55, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:23:38 -0300 Michael Berger michaelmber...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a bug or list of bugs open on this? Not yet. If so, can someone post the list please? It will save some chatter on the list. I do not think that is a problem. This is a serious bug, and the people who are most likely to work on it are here, whereas a particular bug report is not always obvious or that visible. Cheers, Mike Pope -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol.app from MacOS installer does not run on OS X
I just tried installing and running 0.11.3 and i do not get that java error. Can you download from the sun website java 7 or even java 8 and install that. as mentioned previously mac no longer ships with java included. On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: I am offering to test this out give me a few min and I will come back with my findings. Is this the latest release version I should try out? On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Michael Berger michaelmber...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I just wanted a place I could refer people. I don't personally have a mac but I asked if anyone on our local computer science society would like to make a contribution. They're not subscribed to the mailing list so I wanted them to be able to to collaborate without spamming the list. I appreciate that it's early so when a bug gets posted, I'll forward a link. Thanks, Mike Berger On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: What version of freecol is being used and what version of Java is needed minimum Java 7+ Sent from my iPhone On 27 Mar 2015, at 23:55, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:23:38 -0300 Michael Berger michaelmber...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a bug or list of bugs open on this? Not yet. If so, can someone post the list please? It will save some chatter on the list. I do not think that is a problem. This is a serious bug, and the people who are most likely to work on it are here, whereas a particular bug report is not always obvious or that visible. Cheers, Mike Pope -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol.app from MacOS installer does not run on OS X
Also its worth asking if they have java installed at one point i forgot which release apple stopped bundling java as part of OS X On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:42:17 -0500 Caleb Williams cale...@gmail.com wrote: It's a just a system dialog box that says: Cannot Launch FreeCol No compatible version of Java 1.7+ is available. OK, the one being complained about on the Help forum. Cheers, Mike Pope -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol.app from MacOS installer does not run on OS X
What version of freecol is being used and what version of Java is needed minimum Java 7+ Sent from my iPhone On 27 Mar 2015, at 23:55, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:23:38 -0300 Michael Berger michaelmber...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a bug or list of bugs open on this? Not yet. If so, can someone post the list please? It will save some chatter on the list. I do not think that is a problem. This is a serious bug, and the people who are most likely to work on it are here, whereas a particular bug report is not always obvious or that visible. Cheers, Mike Pope -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] SF Quirks
That sounds to me like your mail server has a back log of emails check the mail queue. is this a a linux mail server? feel free to email me off list On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:42 AM, win...@genial.ms wrote: Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Februar 2015 um 02:50 Uhr Von: Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org An: freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freecol-developers] SF Quirks Then it does not send me timely the resposes from the mailing list, I can only guess its some timezone-quirk with the mailing list server. Sure its not just due to some of the list participants being distributed across time zones and just outright unpredictable in when they can post? I literally meant the mailing list server is delaying mails between hours and a day, even my own. I could read my mails and a bunch of replies on the SF website, but my own mailbox was still empty. Only this morning I got the delayed mails. Greetings, wintertime -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] (no subject)
As mentioned in the other thread. A github repository for the website plus simple html5 and css3 would be more then enough, but we should also target mobile devices as well as people might use them to file bugs or look up things. If you guys agree and someone sets up the repository on github or where ever i can get something done in a matter of hours. On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@bryceharrington.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 08:19:03PM +1030, Michael T. Pope wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:51:23 +0100 Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Wordpress is super easy to update Yes, good. I salute your enthusiasm but please understand my caution. I just looked it up, and wordpress has 740(!) CVEs issued since 2003. I knew it was going to be bad, but that is abysmal. To maintain it well you are going to need to watch carefully for security announcements and update promptly. Are you sure you can commit to that long term? Even if so, I think if we go with wordpress, we need an emergency exit strategy. Perhaps I should wget freecol.org and stash a tarball in the git repo at the very least. WordPress is awesome, but isn't it a bit overkill for what freecol.org needs? There aren't that many pages, and they aren't updated that frequently... I've seen some pretty robust sites done for open source projects using just git and some random html templating language. I've even seen a few simple ones that just have a really good CSS template and plain HTML. For example, Cairo's website (cairographics.org) uses a static html generator that gets triggered (I think) via git push, which from a maintainer POV is convenient since updating the website is essentially the same workflow as updating the codebase. And also scriptable... cairo's new-version release process also scripts up all the website updates Bryce -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
[Freecol-developers] audio
Hey guys, Would you guys be interesed in some original sound effects and audio tracks? -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] (no subject)
Wordpress as of v4 has a self update feature which is very nice. I am quite versed and still learning lots of new things about web design. I can code something from scratch where it can be a bit more dynamic and take advantage of a responsive design so it can be viewed on mobiles and tablets too On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:51:23 +0100 Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Wordpress is super easy to update Yes, good. I salute your enthusiasm but please understand my caution. I just looked it up, and wordpress has 740(!) CVEs issued since 2003. I knew it was going to be bad, but that is abysmal. To maintain it well you are going to need to watch carefully for security announcements and update promptly. Are you sure you can commit to that long term? Even if so, I think if we go with wordpress, we need an emergency exit strategy. Perhaps I should wget freecol.org and stash a tarball in the git repo at the very least. Cheers, Mike Pope -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] (no subject)
Wordpress is super easy to update On 22 Dec 2014 22:10, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:53:39 +0100 Stian Grenborgen stian...@student.matnat.uio.no wrote: I have converted the entire site into a static version. Dynamic content (such as operating system detection, polls etc) have been removed. Thank you. I think that was needed. New content can only be added manually. Adding a new news item is cumbersome as not only the HTML-file needs to be added ... but every link should be updated as well (frontpage, news, releases, RSS-feeds etc). Understood. Cumbersome though this might be, it will not block a release. I can probably edit HTML faster than I could use the old Joomla:-). We need to decide on a more permanent solution. We do. As I have said earlier I have no strong preference regarding the software involved, but I would propose some criteria, which are mainly motivated by the very low numbers of volunteers: - Ease of maintenance, especially security updates - Ease of release process (look at the chapter in .../doc/developer.tex on what we do/did to make a release for comparison) - Preference for something we can continue to host at sourceforge where freecol.org has long been Cheers, Mike Pope -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] (no subject)
Hey Stian is it possible to get a copy of the place holder please? On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:25:37 +0100 Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: I can put together a quick place holder page if you like. At the top of the thread Stian said that there is a place holder there already. I would like to see other parts of the static content restored soon, in particular the stuff that new users or contributors might need to be referred to (e.g. how to contribute, getting started, news and links to old releases, the (non)-roadmap). Cheers, Mike Pope -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] freecol.org website down
I have a bit of experience with joomla, luckily with the 3.3.x line its easy to ensure all plugins and even joomla itself i can help a bit if necessary On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Stian Grenborgen stian...@student.matnat.uio.no wrote: Hi! Freecol.org has been compromised. I have replaced the entire site with a place-holder until it can be properly restored, and contacted blacklists etc in order to remove security warnings. Restoring the website will take quite some time, as there's no quick fix for the security vulnerability. We are now forced to either convert the site into a static one, or migrating to a later version of Joomla. I previously attempted the latter, but a lot of data were lost in the conversion process. In addition, the template (ie the looks) needs to be recreated. Anyone with experience in Joomla wanting to offer assistance? Best wishes, Stian Grenborgen -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Desktop entry file
I have to macs but nothing on me at the moment what do you need tested? -Original Message- From: Michael Vehrs [mailto:michael.bursc...@gmx.de] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:17 AM To: Michael T. Pope Cc: freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freecol-developers] Desktop entry file On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:33:12 AM Michael Vehrs wrote: No, it didn't. But the manual describes how to do that. I will update the dist targets as time permits and hope to fix this along the way. However, I don't know whether I will be able to actually test Windows features. Putting requests for Windows testing in the banner on the bug reporting page has been productive. I will not be able to test OSX features, unless my wife decides to buy herself an iPad after all. iOS I am afraid. She will need to get a macbook. Cheers, Mike Pope Oh, right. Goes to show how much I know about Apple products. So no chance of testing OSX. Regards Michael -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Git online
This is my opinion the static branches should be merged back into master in case someone wants or needs to modify them. Where will any modified graphics end up? Also any old branches that are no longer used or were used for development and no longer needed i would recommend dropping, that way branches are made for subsequent releases, and those then will become stable branches and bug fixing branches. On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.orgwrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:58:51 AM Michael Vehrs wrote: The graphics tree contains the master images from which most of our unit images (and some others) are derived. This is mostly inactive. I only use the tree to save scripts that produce or convert graphics. The stuff in the graphics tree, and likely the other trees is very static, and contains little that is directly distributed to our players. If we placed it in the trunk, it would have been copied into every branch (I think git handles this differently). + [other svn trees] As long as the other parts remain accessible in some way, we do not need to move them to git. They are pretty much static anyway, and do not benefit from version control. OK. Lets leave them in svn then. We can rename that to something like Svn- Archive, and then Git can become Code. The unfortunately named 0.11.x branch was indeed created for my work on the specification. Since all changes were merged back into trunk, the branch is only of historical interest. I have no objection to dropping it. OK. It will be there in the history. I have no idea what the unlabeled and vendor branches are for, either. One or both might be an artefact of the initial cvs2svn import. Cheers, Mike Pope -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Git online
Why not merge all other branches into master at this point and then re
create them once the migration to git is complete and then make the svn
repo read only and let people know that we now use git
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:43:00 PM Michael T. Pope wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:47:41 AM Michael T. Pope wrote:
We have a git repo
Unfortunately, its a crappy one which did not import the branch and tag
structure of the svn repo correctly. Please ignore it until I can get
this
right.
OK, this time we have a useful git repo up. I have even successfully
committed to it. However there are some issues remaining.
I used svn2git to do the conversion. It only took two tries to get it
to work:-S. svn2git has a rebase option that will allow me to merge
changes anyone makes to the sourceforge svn repo into the local git
repo I have used for the conversion, so maintaining sync should be
reasonably straightforward.
What is not straightforward is the conversion itself. Our svn repo is
really six virtual repos wrapped into one. The top level has six
parts (audio, conceptual, freecol, graphics, movie, website), each
with the standard {branches,tags,trunk} structure below it. The only
one I know anything about is freecol, which is the game itself. I
expect Michael knows what is happening in graphics, as he is listed as
committing there 5 days ago. The others are inactive.
I tried doing a direct conversion of the top level, but this does not
pick up the branches structure for all the parts, only the one you
specify. So what we have is just the freecol part of the svn repo.
This has the correct current branch structure:
git branch
0.11.x
0.7.x
0.8.x
0.9.0-alpha2
0.9.x
* master
unlabeled-1.2.1
vendor
IIRC 0.11.x was created for Michael's specification work, and is long
out of date. It is a bit misleading. Should we rename it, or just
drop it? I have no idea what unlabeled-1.2.1 or vendor are. Not a
big deal, in git branches are cheap.
(BTW tags are not auto-converted because of an ambiguity problem
(described in the svn2git doco). They are not too hard to recover if
people want them. I already know where all the 0.10.x release points
are, and gitk --all shows the full story. It is very convenient to be
able to look at a bug report, git checkout version-bug-is-from,
reproduce bug, git checkout master, fail to reproduce bug, comment
that it is fixed in trunk, and move on:-)
Anyway, we should decide what to do with the other five top-level parts
of the svn repo.
Cheers,
Mike Pope
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Re: [Freecol-developers] Git online
Michael you could also keep the svn as read only but it wont get any of the updates. It might be worth it to ask on git channel on irc on the freenode network there has to be a way to keep things synced automatically between the repos. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: We have a git repo, accessible through the link named Git next to the existing Code one for svn. I am in the process of cloning it to verify the upload worked but have no reason to doubt it is OK. Here is my proposed way forward: 1. We all start pushing to the git repo, but the svn repo stays live for now so as not to block useful work while people are learning git. I will try to keep the repos in sync. What fun. Make it easy for me folks. 2. When all committers have sent a message along the lines of `I am now working only with the git repo.', I stop caring about keeping svn in sync. 3. The Code link gets renamed `Old-Svn', the Git link becomes `Code', as seems to be sourceforge default. 4. Some time later when we are confident that git is doing the job and we are not going back, `Old-svn' goes away. Comments/amendments please. FTR: `I am now working only with the git repo'. Cheers, Mike Pope -- Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] `upgrade'
For those that are on windows you can find git installable if you search for git for windows. Those on mac I think all that you would need to install is xcode not sure if git is part of that but for me with xcode installed git works out of the box no problem. I find that git is much easier to manage in terms of branches as I run a few private repositories on a server of my own. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Pietro Giorgianni giorg...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/1/14 Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org ** On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:33:50 AM Pietro Giorgianni wrote: couldn't this be taken as a great opportunity to say goodbye to SVN You mean like what was decided a few months back and mentioned again as recently as last week in the thread with the subject `housekeeping'? /me blushes It seems like I may have overlooked that thread... I'm sure that a git repo with the ability to send pull requests would lower quite a bit the effort needed to contribuite Opinions are mixed on the subject. We have had contributors that were strongly opposed to moving to git. Nor am I entirely convinced sending pull requests is a big win for FreeCol. They work for Linux when a fairly major body of work is occurring which requires review yet is too large for a just an attached diff on a mail message. FreeCol is miniscule in comparison, the bar to full commit privileges is low, and attached diffs work fine here. I can only ensure that pull requests are a very big win to a great number of very small, niche projects, not just for the big and famous ones. Thanks pietro -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] Seeking to Contribute
Not trying to hijack the thread here are you looking to setup a new website? I could probably donate a site to the project on one of my virtual servers with some other projects that I am sponsoring or hoping to sponsor? On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Michael Vehrs michael.bursc...@gmx.dewrote: On 13.01.2013 06:58, Jenifer Wang wrote: Hello FreeCol Developers, I am Jenifer Wang and I wish to contribute in the development of FreeCol. I would like to know how I can help out in this project as I have an assignment for my Software Engineering course that requires my partner and I to contribute to an open source project by fixing 2 non-trivial bugs under time constraints. I'm completely new to the open source environment so I would greatly appreciate guides to take me to the right direction along the way. I noticed that the FreeCol website is pretty much gone the last time I checked so I'm slightly lost with what to do next after contacting this mailing list. Regards, Jenifer Wang You are most welcome to contribute. We are in the process of updating our SourceForge project, and there is some fallout. For some unknown reason, the freecol.org website is mostly gone, but the project site is still there: https://sourceforge.net/projects/freecol/ So, just head to the bug tracker at https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/bugs/ and look for something that seems easy to fix. I would advise avoiding AI problems until you are familiar with the code, but anything else should be game. Please send your patches to this mailing list (diff -u is preferred). And this is also the right place to ask further questions. Regards Michael -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
Re: [Freecol-developers] making an android port
My apologies I am a novice to using SF for code development. thanks for the link. hope to have something for you freecol fans soon :D On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Michael T. Pope mp...@computer.org wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:42:26 AM Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Hey guys is there no version control mechanism in place? http://www.freecol.org/documentation/subversion.html What puzzles me is why you would have to ask? Is sourceforge broken, or google for that matter? Cheers, Mike Pope -- Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 ___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
[Freecol-developers] making an android port
Seeing as Freecol is already java based has anyone thought of porting it to android? I am not sure how much additional work would be needed to get it to work with android, but for sure parts of the UI would need to be modified as well as unit movement. What do you guys think as it is a project that would interest me greatly in terms of spearheading it. -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712___ Freecol-developers mailing list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers
