Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Raspberry Pi Video Support

2014-05-06 Thread Ben Cook
On 05/06/2014 02:44 PM, Chris Troutner wrote:
 I want to ask a simple question, but the more I think about it, the more I
 realize it's not a simple question. The simple question is this:
 
 Is there any support for the video output of the Raspberry Pi in the
 current version of Freedombox?
 
 I'm going to assume that very little to no effort has been expended to
 support the Pi's video output. Please correct me if this is a false
 assumption.
 
 The reason I don't think that is such a simple question is that Pi specific
 builds, like Raspbian, have great video support, so it could theoretically
 be moved in easily. However, I realize that many are begrudgingly
 supporting the Pi as target hardware because of it's proprietary binary
 blobs (although this may have changed?).
 
 My personal opinion (read: feel free to disagree with me) is that a 'killer
 app' for the Raspberry Pi/Freedombox would be along the lines of the
 ability to plug a portable hard-drive into the Pi and play DVD ISO files on
 the video output. I realize this is totally out of the scope of the goals
 of the freedombox, but it would be an easy way to incentive non-nerds to
 buy the hardware and install it in their living rooms.
 
 At that point, those people's nerdy, freedombox supporting friends can help
 them with the administration and add-ons of freedom promoting software like
 TOR, encrypted email, web ad filtering, etc.
 
 It would allow me to tell my friends and family: Hey, give me $100 to
 build you this great media device that lets you store and playback your
 DVDs and music. And by the way, I can also load all this software for you
 that helps support libertarian, internet freedom and help protect you from
 NSA spying.
 
 What do you all think?
 
 -Chris Troutner
 http://experimentsinfreedom.wordpress.com/
 
 
 
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I think you've already answered your own question that such a feature is
entirely outside the scope of the freedombox project.  There are already
a number of projects that aim to turn the Raspberry Pi into a media
center.  Any one of them is usable today to achieve what you've suggested.

-Ben Cook

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Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Raspberry Pi Video Support

2014-05-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Chris Troutner (2014-05-06 21:27:10)
 Good point Ben. I guess the unspoken question I had then is: what do 
 people think about the idea of merging a Freedombox and media center?
 
  If one wanted to do this, where would you start? Take a Freedombox 
  build and add video support, or start with Raspbian with video 
  support and try to merge Freedombox packages into it?

What do you mean when you say FreedomBox?

I'd say that if one wanted to merge a FreedomBox with a media center, 
one would...

  a) actually realize FreedomBox
  b) apt-get install xbmc (or the equivalent on that box)

...but that's just me.  It really depends quite essentially on what you 
mean by FreedomBox, and I shall not judge you on that.


 - Jonas

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Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Raspberry Pi Video Support

2014-05-06 Thread Chris Troutner
My (personal) idea of a FreedomBox is the suite of software built
and loaded onto a piece of hardware from the Freedombox 'package'. Not
necessarily Plinth, as that is just a configuration program, but
things like TOR, privoxy, JWChat, and other stuff like encrypted
email.

I *really* like the stance this project has taken to use Freedom-maker
and Plinth to make the build and configuration as easy and painless as
possible.


My inspiration for this idea comes from the fact that I've tried to
describe Freedombox to my friends and family and haven't gotten much
of a reaction from them. They think it's a cool idea, but the
immediate benefit to them isn't apparent. However, they all get
excited by the idea of a media center... and wouldn't mind
contributing some network capacity to the TOR network while they're at
it.


If xbmc and whatever other packages were needed to get a basic media
player running on the Raspberry Pi were included in the freedom-maker
script for that hardware target, it would make the Freedombox a much
easier sell to the common person. This same notion could be said for
the personal cloud storage, which I am also stoked to see being added
to the project. The benefit for the non-privacy-sensitive person is
clear and immediate, and would make adoption and proliferation of the
privacy-promoting software easier.


-Chris Troutner



*Jonas said:*

...but that's just me.  It really depends quite essentially on what you
mean by FreedomBox, and I shall not judge you on that.


 - Jonas
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