Re: [Freedos-devel] ODIN update comments.
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:54:07 -0400, you wrote: Hi Uso, I think, whatever of base you can cram into 1.44 MB, that's basically what I did. ;) I've been testing 1.68MB format for a long time, its quite stable. If someone 1.44MB ODIN full you go for 1.68MB ODIN. Rgds, Johnson. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] ODIN update comments.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:34:41 +0800, you wrote: (Sorry, my head go wrong and writing ability crippled ...) Hi Uso, I think, whatever of base you can cram into 1.44 MB, that's basically what I did. ;) I keep testing the 1.68MB format since 0.9f, it's very stable, none of my disks (MA brand) have error. If someday your 1.44MB ODIN reach it's capacity you can go for 1.68MB. Rgds, Johnson. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] ODIN update comments.
Hi! 12--2004 18:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BB warning though: I'm using Arkady's (Lucho compiled it) kernel as kernel.sys. BB FDconfig.sys (sample script to point user to the fact that (s)he must BB create a own (individual) config.sys/autoexec.bat): BB set helppath=a:\ BB SWITCHES=/F /N BB MENUCOLOR=7,0 BB MENUDEFAULT=0,2 BB MENU You are running without loading any bootup configuration files. BB echo Edit config.sys [EDIT A:\CONFIG.SYS] autoexec.bat [EDIT A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT] BB echo files on this disk so they contain your specific settings BB echo then delete file fdconfig.sys [DEL A:\FDCONFIG.SYS] BB 0?shell=command.com /P /D - my kernel not stops, when there is only one menu entry. Here only one choice (0) and this forces adding CONFIG=0 into environment. - MENU line doesn't affect anything (here), so (here) MENU may be easily replaced by ECHO with same success. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
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Re: [Freedos-devel] ODIN update comments.
Arkady V.Belousov schreef: BB set helppath=a:\ BB SWITCHES=/F /N BB MENUCOLOR=7,0 BB MENUDEFAULT=0,2 BB MENU You are running without loading any bootup configuration files. BB echo Edit config.sys [EDIT A:\CONFIG.SYS] autoexec.bat [EDIT A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT] BB echo files on this disk so they contain your specific settings BB echo then delete file fdconfig.sys [DEL A:\FDCONFIG.SYS] BB 0?shell=command.com /P /D - my kernel not stops, when there is only one menu entry. Here only one choice (0) and this forces adding CONFIG=0 into environment. - MENU line doesn't affect anything (here), so (here) MENU may be easily replaced by ECHO with same success. Hi Arkady, Then I'll change this. Official kernel 2035 plus this fdconfig.sys allowed me to show the You are running without.. text 2 seconds, and then the Edit config.sys [... lines on screen (after the timeout) I'll consider your suggestions. Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] ODIN update comments.
Hi! 13--2004 16:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BB MENUDEFAULT=0,2 BB MENU You are running without loading any bootup configuration files. BB echo Edit config.sys [EDIT A:\CONFIG.SYS] autoexec.bat [EDIT A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT] BB 0?shell=command.com /P /D - my kernel not stops, when there is only one menu entry. Here only one choice (0) and this forces adding CONFIG=0 into environment. BB Then I'll change this. BB Official kernel 2035 plus this fdconfig.sys allowed me to show the You BB are running without.. text 2 seconds, Then add 1 - 01?shell= --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] 32RTM Bug Found, no good fix
Hi Michael, Thanks very much for the debugging... IMHO this is a case of needed bug for bug compatibility :( I say needed because there are _A_LOT_ of Borland programs around. It would not be needed if it happened only in an obscure rarely used program. I can even argue that FreeDOS is Beta, that is because things may change, this is as good an example as anyone can get. Alain Michael Devore escreveu: [Sorry, this is going to be long. I can't describe the problem properly otherwise. I'm cc'ing to devel since the problem isn't really in the kernel and affects all Borland 32RTM users.] The 32RTM problem where 32RTM executing under FreeDOS without the -X option generates an exception is a Borland bug. And the bug only shows up with FreeDOS because MS-DOS does something slightly different, although the FreeDOS method is perfectly valid. The problem occurs in this code segment in 32RTM: push bp sub sp,32h mov bp,sp mov word ptr [bp+1ch],3400h mov word ptr [bp+20h], 3202h mov word ptr [bp+30h],0 mov word ptr [bp+2eh],0 mov ax,300h mov bx,21h mov di,bp push ss pop es int 31h Briefly put: when the int 31h (DPMI interrupt) occurs, 32RTM generates an exception under FreeDOS. Basically what is happening in this code segment is that 32RTM sets up a stack frame to hold a real mode call structure pointed to by ES:DI for calling INT 21h through the INT 31h DPMI interface. It sets the AX value to 3400h, for get InDOS function. The 3202h value is the flags register. And the 0 in the other two stack frame values indicates that the DPMI server should use its own internal stack. Everything other real mode register is don't care. The ax,300h simply is the DPMI function for simulate real mode interrupt, here to call INT 21h function 34h. Okay, hope that's clear. People who use DPMI functions might notice one small omission here. No CX register value is set. Well, CX is an important register for the 300h function, it is the number of words to copy from protected mode to real mode stack when the interrupt is issued. So I looked further back in the 32RTM code to see where CX register is getting set and falling through to this routine. Amazingly enough, the CX value used is the one that is returned from an earlier real mode INT 21h function 30h get DOS version call. The return value of CX from that function is the lower 16-bits of the user serial number, whatever the heck that is. Unfortunately, FreeDOS returns a serial number of 101h in CX. MS-DOS appears to return a value of 0. By a fluke, MS-DOS is returning a CX value which allows the above DPMI call to function without problems. So what happens with the FreeDOS 101h value in CX? It copies 514 bytes of crap to the real mode stack during the INT 31h. That blows the DOS stack right there, and if it doesn't, it sure blows the internal DPMI stack. Hard to say what important internal data gets shot down with the copy. How do I know this is the problem? I tested it two different ways: First, I in the debugger I dynamically patched the: mov word ptr [bp+30h],0 mov word ptr [bp+2eh],0 instructions in the code fragment to: xor cx,cx mov [bp+30],cx mov [bp+2eh],cx with NOP padding. 32RTM happily went resident without exception, since no bytes were copied to and from the real mode stack. Second test: while in the debugger, after the 30h get DOS function call in 32RTM, I changed CX return value from 101h to 0. Once again, 32RTM went resident without problems. There you have it folks. A dumb bug in a Borland product that by purest happenstance fails under FreeDOS and not MS-DOS. I don't have any idea how to gracefully fix the problem other than to have FreeDOS change its serial number. And it shouldn't have to do that. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] 32RTM Bug Found, no good fix
Alain wrote: Hi Michael, Thanks very much for the debugging... IMHO this is a case of needed bug for bug compatibility :( I say needed because there are _A_LOT_ of Borland programs around. It would not be needed if it happened only in an obscure rarely used program. I can even argue that FreeDOS is Beta, that is because things may change, this is as good an example as anyone can get. Alain Problem is that register is part of the kernel version code in DOS-C and FreeDOS... -uso. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] ODIN update comments.
On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 02:34, Johnson Lam wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:54:07 -0400, you wrote: Hi Uso, I think, whatever of base you can cram into 1.44 MB, that's basically what I did. ;) I've been testing 1.68MB format for a long time, its quite stable. If someone 1.44MB ODIN full you go for 1.68MB ODIN. I've had issues reading 1.68MB under windows on a USB floppy drive, it always wants to format because it thinks it's unformatted. Regards, Paul --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] ODIN update comments.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 22:38:23 -0500, you wrote: Hi Paul, I've had issues reading 1.68MB under windows on a USB floppy drive, it always wants to format because it thinks it's unformatted. Which version of Windows are you using? I've tested it on Win98, WinNT4.0, Win2K and WinXP but I don't have USB floppy drive to test. We need somebody's help to test more non-standard format on USB drive. Rgds, Johnson. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
