Re: [Freedos-devel] PG new version

[Blair Campbell]

> I can host for you, but I'm sure better to host on ibiblio, Jim can
> help.

I already offered to host on ibiblio.


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Re: [Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer

[Johnson Lam]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:46:35 +0200 (CEST), you wrote:

Hello Alekhine,

Welcome! And thank you for becoming the developer of FreeDOS!

>Except for installing and getting familiar with 
>FreeDos, can you give me any hints for how to get
>started, which books/tutorials to read and such things
>?.

http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php

Lots of documentation

>Which development environment/language
>do you recommend ?  

English, some base software currently have no maintainer such as FDISK
and DEFRAG, or improve the kernel if you wish.


Rgds,
Johnson.


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Re: [Freedos-devel] PG new version

[Johnson Lam]

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:49:41 +, you wrote:

Hi BAHCL,

>I still call this version 1.13, but I do not host any webpage, and I have 
>only an hour internet time a week.

Why not call it 1.2?
You did a major improvement.

>So I can only email it as a zipfile to someone like to host and distribute 
>PG to the world.
>The zipfile PG113.ZIP is about 60k. 
>Please reply if you can help.

I can host for you, but I'm sure better to host on ibiblio, Jim can
help.


Rgds,
Johnson.


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Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT 0.91u

[Johnson Lam]

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 12:41:22 +0200, you wrote:

Hi Robert and Eric,

Sorry I'm late.

>But there is no "DISK CHANGED" string in source code or executable!
>Please give the exact message!

= A:\>format a: /u  Insert new diskette for drive A:  Press ENTER
when the right disk is in drive...  Using drive default: 1440k (Cyl=80
Head=2 Sec=18) Please enter volume label (max. 11 chars): No label,
disk will have no creation timestamp.  Full Formatting (wiping all
data) Format_Floppy_Cylinder( head=0 cylinder=0 ) sectors=18 [int
13.5]   Critical error during INT 13 disk access  INT 13 status (hex):
06Bits: bad address mark sector not foundDescription: FLOPPY
CHANGED  Program terminated.  [Error 134]  A:\> =


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[Freedos-devel] PG new version

[BA HCL]

Hello,

I failed to deliver PG version 1.13 to the world a few months ago.

This time, with more new features, 
1. support multiple command line arguments;

2. allow to add new filespec as viewing a file;
3. mouse aid to search;
4. changable background and foreground color;
5. plugins support a disk file of unlimited size
and more...

I still call this version 1.13, but I do not host any webpage, and I have 
only an hour internet time a week.
So I can only email it as a zipfile to someone like to host and distribute 
PG to the world.
The zipfile PG113.ZIP is about 60k. 
Please reply if you can help.


regards,
BAHCL

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Re: [Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer

[Blair Campbell]

Hi.  There are several tools that are lacking, such as undelete lacks
FAT32 support and defrag does not even check for FAT32 (which it isn't
compatible with).  Another project that needs to be started is
Scandisk, which can likely borrow code from CHKDSK and DOSFSCK, and
use the TUI from edit.


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[Freedos-devel] Localization

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

some days ago, there was this spanish user asking whether there was a 
spanish localized version of FreeDOS.

Questions like that might start popping up more frequently.

I remember localization being easy for some programs like Robert Platt's 
HELP. All a user had to do was to translate messages on INI files. The good 
thing about this approach is that it wouldn't require extra work from the 
developers themselves. Anyone wishing to contribute on localization would be 
welcome.

Henrique




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Re: [Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer

[Henrique Peron]

Hello / Hej / Zdravstvuite Alekhine,

perhaps you might be interested on this (by the time you feel yourself ready 
to start contributing with FreeDOS): we still don't have how to print text 
on different languages, meaning that we don't have codepage support for 
printers.

What I provided so far is codepage support for screen as well as keyboard 
layouts.

So long, / Hej då, / Poka,
Henrique Peron

- Original Message - 
From: "K. Alekhine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:46 AM
Subject: [Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer


| Hi all,
| I am an experienced (+10 years) software
| developer who would like to aid to the
| FreeDos community in some way. My background is C/C++,
| Java/J2EE, Microsoft/Unix environments, Oracle db
| and also a little Assembler. Some years ago I worked
| on my sparetime with some MSDOS-programming.
| Except for installing and getting familiar with
| FreeDos, can you give me any hints for how to get
| started, which books/tutorials to read and such things
| ?.
| Which development environment/language
| do you recommend ?
|
| /Christer
|
| "God created Arrakis to train the faithful."
| (Wisdom of Muab-Dib, Dune)
|
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[Freedos-devel] Proposed name change

[Joe Cosentino]

Hey all,
 
I've got a proposed name change for the FreeDOS 
project.  Why don't we just call it the EricDOS project.  Because he's 
practically the only one actually contributing to the project, and I'll tell you 
why that is.  It's not because he's a good programmer who wants to see this 
through...no.  It's because you, Eric, have pissed so many people off that 
no one wants to work with you and have therefore left the project.
 
Why do you think so many of the core group of 
developers have left the project.  It's not because they're too busy, it's 
because they dont want to deal with YOU.  Myself included.  God you're 
fucking annoying.
 
Later,
 
Joe
 

Re: [Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer

[Gregory Pietsch]

K. Alekhine wrote:


Hi all,
I am an experienced (+10 years) software
developer who would like to aid to the
FreeDos community in some way. My background is C/C++,
Java/J2EE, Microsoft/Unix environments, Oracle db
and also a little Assembler. Some years ago I worked
on my sparetime with some MSDOS-programming.
Except for installing and getting familiar with 
FreeDos, can you give me any hints for how to get

started, which books/tutorials to read and such things
?.
Which development environment/language
do you recommend ?  


/Christer
 

The first hint is to download the source code for the kernel and the 
apps and utilities and marvel at the code. Most of it was written either 
in straight ANSI/ISO C89 or 80X86 Assembler, as those are the two 
languages we use around here.


If you want to develop an app that replaces an MS-DOS app, don't refer 
to Microsoft's code (if you have it) or any other proprietary programs 
while developing it. If you have a vague recollection of the internals 
of a MS-utility, that doesn't mean that you can't write an imitation of 
it, but try to write the imitation internally along different lines. For 
example, some programs were written to optimize memory use; if you go 
for speed or simplicity or generality instead, the code will be very 
different.


I found code for MS Edlin floating around the Web, but it was in 80X86 
Assembler. I read the specs and notices that it had a limit of 253 
characters/line, which suggested static strings to me. I never referred 
to the Assembler code when I wrote FreeDOS Edlin. Also, it's in straight 
C and uses a dynamically-allocated array of dynamically-allocated 
strings as its main data structure.


Believe it or not, I use Cygwin and MS Visual C++ version 6 as my two 
development environments, with OpenWatcom as a third to make sure that 
the code is portable.


Gregory Pietsch


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Re: [Freedos-devel] "New" Freedos Developer again..

[Kenneth J. Davis]

K. Alekhine wrote:


Hi and thanks for the replies!
I forgot to ask in my last email
if you think any of these titles would be useful for
me;


Depends, do you want to work on the kernel or the other
programs.  The first one is definitely a good read to get
an introduction to the kernel.  Although it has evolved quite
a bit, the basics provided in the 'FreeDOS' book by Pat still
apply.

(Somewhat off topic, is this book still available new? and does
 Pat have the copyright or the publisher?  I bought my copy years
 ago, shortly after I first heard about FreeDOS, but I'm not sure
 how available books like this one are to those new to [Free]DOS.)

The RxDOS book may help, I haven't fully read it, only skimmed
through it several times; but ideas from it may be useful (e.g. it has
some support for LFN API which the FreeDOS kernel does not support).



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0879304367/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/103-1946500-5195808?v=glance&s=books&n=507846&st=*
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/020162687X/qid=1126443309/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-1946500-5195808?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Thanks,

Christer


If you do want to help with the kernel (always appreciated), you may 
want to try and find a copy of Undocumented DOS (2nd ed preferably).


If you want to help with the other programs that accompany FD (and 
support there is needed), then any good DOS reference should help; I 
think IBM's PC-DOS 7 Tech Reference (it says update, but about the only 
thing it lacks from my PC-DOS 4 Tech Ref is the diskette) is still 
available for download from IBM's redbook site (PDF).  Of course Ralf 
Brown's Interrupt List (RBIL), though I use the online version mostly; 
and what I used when 1st learning about DOS (outside my Borland books) 
was DOSREF "Programmer's Tech Ref for MS/PC DOS" by Dave Williams.  All 
of these being freely available downloads.  Advanced MSDOS by Ray Duncan 
is also a good book, but I think only used copies of the book are 
available, no legal downloads.


Jeremy





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[Freedos-devel] "New" Freedos Developer again..

[K. Alekhine]

Hi and thanks for the replies!
I forgot to ask in my last email
if you think any of these titles would be useful for
me;

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0879304367/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/103-1946500-5195808?v=glance&s=books&n=507846&st=*
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/020162687X/qid=1126443309/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-1946500-5195808?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Thanks,

Christer

"God created Arrakis to train the faithful"

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Re: [Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer

[Florian Xaver]

Hi!



I am an experienced (+10 years) software
developer who would like to aid to the
FreeDos community in some way. My background is C/C++,
Java/J2EE, Microsoft/Unix environments, Oracle db
and also a little Assembler. Some years ago I worked
on my sparetime with some MSDOS-programming.
Except for installing and getting familiar with 
FreeDos, can you give me any hints for how to get

started, which books/tutorials to read and such things
?.
Which development environment/language
do you recommend ?  


C/C++/Assembler (32-Bit protected mode): DJGPP (has a DOS user
interface: RHIDE)
OpenWatcom/Assembler (16-bit real mode  and 32-bit protected mode)

Both are avaiable at www.delorie.com/djgpp/ and under www.openwatcom.org

What do you want to develope? Then I could help you more.

Bye, Flo
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Unofficial Dr-DOS page  
SWORD - GUI for DOS 



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[Freedos-devel] re: "New" FreeDos Developer

[Eric Auer]

Hi, I recommend that you download Ralf Brown's Interrupt List (RBIL),
very useful "lexicon" of programming interfaces and similar.
There is hardly any Java going on in DOS, but we use a lot of C and
also some Assembly language (e.g. NASM). Some programs are DJGPP
(delorie.com) ports of GNU / Linux programs, 32bit ones, but we use
16bit C compilers more often. For smaller programs, you can use
Turbo C 2.01 from the Borland online museum (free). For bigger
programs, OpenWatcom got more popularity recently. Contact me off
list if you like some hints about which of our components need some
help at the moment... Thanks :-)

Eric


> ... developer who would like to aid to the
> FreeDos community in some way. My background is C/C++,
> Java/J2EE, Microsoft/Unix environments, Oracle db
> and also a little Assembler...
> can you give me any hints for how to get
> started, which books/tutorials to read and such things?
> Which development environment/language
> do you recommend ?  

PS: You could get started by installing the 100 MB distro
of Blairdude at gmail com (often on irc.i7c.org #freedos)
which includes many DOS apps and also has a "live CD" part.



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[Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer

[K. Alekhine]

Hi all,
I am an experienced (+10 years) software
developer who would like to aid to the
FreeDos community in some way. My background is C/C++,
Java/J2EE, Microsoft/Unix environments, Oracle db
and also a little Assembler. Some years ago I worked
on my sparetime with some MSDOS-programming.
Except for installing and getting familiar with 
FreeDos, can you give me any hints for how to get
started, which books/tutorials to read and such things
?.
Which development environment/language
do you recommend ?  

/Christer

"God created Arrakis to train the faithful."
(Wisdom of Muab-Dib, Dune)


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