Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Alain M.

Robert Riebisch escreveu:
> To avoid such confusion in the future it might be good idea to stop
> top-replying, but use inline-replying from now on.

I participate in some lists where the rule is top replying...
Some people think it is better because it is faster to read bigger 
quantity of messages :)

So... sorry, sometimes I get mixed up/down :)
Alain

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Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Robert Riebisch
"Alain M." wrote:

> Sorry, Ladislav and Florian...
> 
> I realyzed that I was not clear in may question: I want to know about
> this driver: "XMGR and UIDE" with SATA, available in the link bellow.

To avoid such confusion in the future it might be good idea to stop
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Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Alain M.
Sorry, Ladislav and Florian...

I realyzed that I was not clear in may question: I want to know about 
this driver: "XMGR and UIDE" with SATA, available in the link bellow.

The older XDMA.SYS I have installed in many of machines and I know for 
sure that it is stable...

Thanks for your answers :)
Alain

Alain M. escreveu:
> That is a prety impressive driver...
> 
> I would like to know who is using it and in what situations, specially
> real-world cases (as oposed to simulations, not fantasy :) )
> 
> thanks to all,
> Alain
> 
> Eric Auer escreveu:
>> Hi!
>>
 [...] and that you can use Jack's UIDE driver with UDMA
 and SATA harddisk and cdrom support and [...]
>>> Does this mean anything about fast SATA drivers?
>> No idea, please find out...
>>
>> www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/udma+drivers/
>>
>> Eric
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Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Florian Xaver
I too. I had not any problem.

2008/6/3 Ladislav Lacina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I use it on my DOS only machine. It is really great driver. It provides fast
> DMA access and disk cache and occupies only very small amount of memory.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alain M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "fd-dev" ;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...
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>
>> That is a prety impressive driver...
>>
>> I would like to know who is using it and in what situations, specially
>> real-world cases (as oposed to simulations, not fantasy :) )
>>
>> thanks to all,
>> Alain
>>
>> Eric Auer escreveu:
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> >>> [...] and that you can use Jack's UIDE driver with UDMA
>> >>> and SATA harddisk and cdrom support and [...]
>> >> Does this mean anything about fast SATA drivers?
>> >
>> > No idea, please find out...
>> >
>> >
> www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/udma+drivers/
>> >
>> > Eric
>>
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Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Ladislav Lacina
I use it on my DOS only machine. It is really great driver. It provides fast
DMA access and disk cache and occupies only very small amount of memory.

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Subject: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...


> That is a prety impressive driver...
>
> I would like to know who is using it and in what situations, specially
> real-world cases (as oposed to simulations, not fantasy :) )
>
> thanks to all,
> Alain
>
> Eric Auer escreveu:
> > Hi!
> >
> >>> [...] and that you can use Jack's UIDE driver with UDMA
> >>> and SATA harddisk and cdrom support and [...]
> >> Does this mean anything about fast SATA drivers?
> >
> > No idea, please find out...
> >
> >
www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/udma+drivers/
> >
> > Eric
>
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[Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Alain M.
That is a prety impressive driver...

I would like to know who is using it and in what situations, specially
real-world cases (as oposed to simulations, not fantasy :) )

thanks to all,
Alain

Eric Auer escreveu:
> Hi!
> 
>>> [...] and that you can use Jack's UIDE driver with UDMA
>>> and SATA harddisk and cdrom support and [...]
>> Does this mean anything about fast SATA drivers?
> 
> No idea, please find out...
> 
> www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/udma+drivers/
> 
> Eric


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Re: [Freedos-devel] USB driver

2008-06-03 Thread Eric Auer

Hi :-)

> This may be help in developping free dos usb drivers..
> http://libusb.wiki.sourceforge.net/

Talking about that, using DLL/DPMI-ish JLM drivers for
JEMM386 seems to support easy use of either ASM or C,
which might give interesting possibilities for example
for porting the Linux Synaptics touchpad driver or ALSA
Project sound drivers ;-). However, in both cases you
would typically use existing ASM code for the DOS part,
for example ctmouse and vsb (virtual sound blaster) as
the existing Linux C code only does the work of talking
to the hardware for you, it does not provide any normal
DOS interfaces / APIs for it. In the sound case, using
the DOSEMU virtual sound blaster written in C might help.

Note that both the touchpad and the sound suggestion as
well as the libusb USB thing are only ideas - you can
be sure that no matter which fancy toolkit you use  it
would still be a lot of work to actually WRITE a driver.

Just in case somebody is bored :-)

Eric

PS: Smaller candidates are writing a free ElTorito driver
(or asking Bart of nu2.nu whether he could make his free)
and a free ASPIDISK driver. Plus maybe a free PCMCIA / CF
driver (needs a bit of PnP, some FreeDOS initdisk.c parts,
some SHSURDRV ramdisk parts, some PCMCIA from Konstantin
and some non DMA IDE from UIDE or XDMA :-)). Those would
already be very USEFUL and still be SMALL projects to write.

PPS: I hear that ExpressCard is actually PCIe-and-USB style,
and PCI, AGP, PCIe all work with DOS so that is good news :-).


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Re: [Freedos-devel] USB driver

2008-06-03 Thread iw2evk

This may be help in developping free dos usb drivers..

http://libusb.wiki.sourceforge.net/

libusb


About

This site is the home for the libusb project. It's aim is to create a
library for use by user level applications to access USB devices regardless
of OS. libusb is an open source project licensed under the GNU Lesser
General Public License version 2.1.


Status

Johannes Erdfelt founded the project and lead development through 2007.
During this time, libusb-0.1 was developed, stabilised, and adopted by a
wide range of projects. Development slowed from that point.

Daniel Drake adopted the project in January 2008, with the aim of developing
libusb-1.0. This new branch adds features missing from the first release.


Stable release


Latest version: v0.1.12 




Eric Auer wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Tom, Marco,
> 
>> > That I have in mind is mass storage, mainly flash memory stick...
>> > Boot from cd-rom is OK as emergency tool but is a static
>> > system where you can't save your preferences or documents,
>> > will be better to have a portable USB system able boot on real
>> > or virtual machines as Damn Small Linux does.
> 
>> if you can boot from an USB stick, this stick is already
>> accessible from DOS. You need USB drivers only for other disks.
> 
> This is true but OLDER computers only have USB mouse/keyboard
> support, not USB storage support in BIOS. Those could still be
> booted from CD/DVD, and USB storage could be used to store the
> files of the user. This is similar to what Knoppix did a few
> years ago when Linux NTFS drivers could not write files and/or
> users did not want to write files to their Windows disk after
> booting Linux from CD/DVD...
> 
> Basically all current USB DOS drivers are "freely downloadable
> from the vendor homepage" but have too unclear license to let
> us include them with any distro. Admittedly, other distros do
> care a lot less about this but yet others think that you may
> only use those USB drivers when using USB devices or controllers
> of the same brand for which the vendor made the driver.
> 
> 
> 
> On the way towards a free DOS USB storage driver, having a
> free open source ASPIDISK replacement would be a nice step.
> See my explanation in my previous email... :-).
> 
> Talking about free components, I also have some open source
> code snippets for PCMCIA - you could combine them with other
> existing free non-DMA IDE access code and some PnP init stuff
> to make a "PCMCIAASPI" driver similar to USBASPI, for compact
> flash and similar disks. Problem is that the PCMCIA snippet
> is in Pascal while open source IDE code typically is in ASM.
> 
> Thirdly, it would be nice if Bart Lagerweij of nu2.nu could
> make his Eltorito cdrom driver open source, maybe somebody
> could send him a pizza for motivation :-). The Eltorito sys
> driver is mainly glue code between BIOS "special INT13 CD/DVD
> access after booting from CD/DVD" interfaces and the generic
> DOS cd/dvd interface expected by SHSUCDX, MSCDEX and the like.
> 
> Eric :-).
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