I agree Jim,

If you go for effective, then the standard FreeDOS window is certainly not
the ideal solution, and perhaps I should have made it clearer that my
remark to Tom wasn't meant overly seriously.

The nice thing about FreeDOS is that you have choice these days, unlike in
the days of yore, so there's something for everybody. You even have choice
of compilers. Personally, I probably never really left the 90s, so I feel
right at home in an 80x25 world. I run CDE on my Linux and BSD Systems, so
my X11 looks still the same as it did on a 1997 Sparc Station, and my
Terminals always start in 80x25, black background, green text - because
that's what the screen looked like on my old A7150 in 1990, a haphazardly
cobbled together East German IBM PC clone. I'm just weird I guess ;)

Cheers, Danilo

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 01:04, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 8:05 AM tom ehlert <t...@drivesnapshot.de> wrote:
>
>> Danilo,
>> > Sorry, but I think you're too snippy here.
>>
>> > First of all, if the idea of an 80x25 single file editor frightens
>> > you, you're either a wimp or too young to have done any programming
>> > when that was the norm.
>>
>> my first 'editor' were punched cards.
>>
>> next came a single line editor (TECO on a PDP10), roughly comparable
>> to EDLIN. that was a HUGE improvement. I would never go back to
>> punched cards.
>>
>>
>> next came a full screen 25*80 editor; first VI on UNIX, with HJKL
>> cursor movement commands. that was a HUGE improvement. I would never go
>> back to
>> EDLIN.
>>
>> now it's two 28 inch monitors, with google search, RBIL, editor,
>> program output and debugger all living nicely side by side.
>> that was a HUGE improvement. I would never go back to
>> single screen 25x80. FOR DEVELOPEMENT!
>> [..]
>>
>
>
> I write code in FreeDOS and for FreeDOS, like when I recorded the "How to
> program in C" video series. I use the FED editor, which is probably my
> favorite programming editor under FreeDOS. The code syntax highlighting is
> a nice feature.
>
> But 80x25 is a very small "window" for effective coding. So I usually do
> not code on FreeDOS. I use a full screen editor on my Linux desktop system,
> and transfer the files to FreeDOS. This was a lot easier when I used DOSEmu
> to run FreeDOS - DOSEmu booted from a directory in your Linux home, so you
> could edit a file on Linux and it would appear immediately in your running
> DOSEmu session. But since DOSEmu hasn't been updated in a while (haven't
> checked DOSEmu2 lately) I do it another way with QEMU.
>
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