Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-21 Thread Jim Hall
 Writing entire installation procedures in 4DOS should be possible as
 well, just takes lots more research.

 For sure 4DOS is more useful, but it might be overkill here. I don't
 know if Jim would prefer FreeCOM exclusively instead or not (though I
 probably would).


Yes, I prefer using the standard FreeDOS Command.com (FreeCOM) for
the 1.1 distribution. But I think this should change as we go into the
2.0 release cycle.


-jh

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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-20 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 20-7-2011 3:20, Rugxulo schreef:
 You might need FreeCOM 0.84-pre2, I think. It has set /e (but needs
 %TEMP% !!) and cdd works for c:\path\blah.exe. Otherwise, you'll
 have to hack up a quick tool or use something premade (DJGPP's
 dirname.exe from Shell Utils [shl2011b.zip]) or similar.

Already using that. My intention is to switch to the directory where 
SETUP.BAT is located so I can run programs which are located elsewhere 
in the directory tree with it. One such program is FreeCOM itself.

I wasn't aware SET /E requires a location to write.

Suppose I have a SETUP.BAT at D:\ , thus D:\SETUP.BAT

It shouldn't matter if I do:
1) D:\SETUP
2) D:\SETUP.BAT
3) D: ; SETUP
4) D: ; SETUP.BAT
5) D:SETUP (though I'd better be in correct dir on D: before)
6) D:SETUP.BAT
7) SET PATH=%PATH%;D:\   ; SETUP
8) SET PATH=%PATH%;D:\   ; SETUP.BAT
9) D:  ; \SETUP

In all cases I want SETUP.BAT to be able to switch current directory to 
whereever this file SETUP.BAT itself is contained, thus D:\

 I'm not exactly sure I understand the issue, but that's as good as
 guess as I can offer without knowing more. (What are you trying to do?
 Something from within another .BAT file?)

I'm trying to switch into the FreeDOS installation CD directory tree, 
and make the batchfile bulletproof against other shells by simply 
loading FreeCOM.

4DOS is easy, and might be something I'll load then, followed by FreeCOM:

set td=%@path[%_BATCHNAME%]
CDD %td%
set td=

Writing entire installation procedures in 4DOS should be possible as 
well, just takes lots more research.

My FreeCOM part looks like this now:
set /E thisfile=truename %0
if exist %thisfile%.bat set thisfile=%thisfile%.bat
if exist %thisfile% goto switchdir
for %%x in ( %path% ) do if exist %%x\%0 set /U thisfile=%%x\%0
for %%x in ( %path% ) do if exist %%x\%0.bat set /U thisfile=%%x\%0.bat
if exist %thisfile% goto switchdir
echo Fail!

The difficult part is Microsoft's command.com as it lacks a lot of 
variables and concurrent directory/drive switching.

Just as the 1.44MB bootdisk I uploaded should work with FreeDOS 1.1 CD 
(but doesn't yet,  in my uploads), so should any other bootdisk.

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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote:
 Op 20-7-2011 3:20, Rugxulo schreef:

 You might need FreeCOM 0.84-pre2, I think. It has set /e (but needs
 %TEMP% !!) and cdd works for c:\path\blah.exe. Otherwise, you'll
 have to hack up a quick tool or use something premade (DJGPP's
 dirname.exe from Shell Utils [shl2011b.zip]) or similar.

 Already using that. My intention is to switch to the directory where
 SETUP.BAT is located so I can run programs which are located elsewhere
 in the directory tree with it. One such program is FreeCOM itself.

 I wasn't aware SET /E requires a location to write.

I can't remember if 0.82pl3 even supports that. Like I said, I never
use 0.82pl3, only newer 0.84-pre2, but some people still prefer it.

 Suppose I have a SETUP.BAT at D:\ , thus D:\SETUP.BAT

 It shouldn't matter if I do:
 1) D:\SETUP
 2) D:\SETUP.BAT
 3) D: ; SETUP
 4) D: ; SETUP.BAT
 5) D:SETUP (though I'd better be in correct dir on D: before)
 6) D:SETUP.BAT
 7) SET PATH=%PATH%;D:\   ; SETUP
 8) SET PATH=%PATH%;D:\   ; SETUP.BAT
 9) D:  ; \SETUP

 In all cases I want SETUP.BAT to be able to switch current directory to
 whereever this file SETUP.BAT itself is contained, thus D:\

Is the problem that we don't know what drive the CD will be assigned?
'Cause I (dumbly) was thinking, Well, he knows it's D:\, so he should
just 'set SETUP=D:\' in the .BAT.

I guess a silly for %%a in (c d e f g) do if exist %%a:\setup.bat set
SETUP=%%a is probably out too, hmmm?   ;-) Bah, confusing. A
standalone tiny util for this purpose would probably work better.

I also had written a silly WHATDRIV.COM util used on one of my
floppies, but I can't remember why. Maybe I was expecting someone to
convert to .ISO (mkbiso) or whatever. Not sure if that would help here
or not.

 I'm trying to switch into the FreeDOS installation CD directory tree,
 and make the batchfile bulletproof against other shells by simply
 loading FreeCOM.

 4DOS is easy, and might be something I'll load then, followed by FreeCOM:

 set td=%@path[%_BATCHNAME%]
 CDD %td%
 set td=

 Writing entire installation procedures in 4DOS should be possible as
 well, just takes lots more research.

For sure 4DOS is more useful, but it might be overkill here. I don't
know if Jim would prefer FreeCOM exclusively instead or not (though I
probably would).

 My FreeCOM part looks like this now:
 set /E thisfile=truename %0
 if exist %thisfile%.bat set thisfile=%thisfile%.bat
 if exist %thisfile% goto switchdir
 for %%x in ( %path% ) do if exist %%x\%0 set /U thisfile=%%x\%0
 for %%x in ( %path% ) do if exist %%x\%0.bat set /U thisfile=%%x\%0.bat
 if exist %thisfile% goto switchdir
 echo Fail!

Looks good, mostly like I would do. Be aware that for %%x in ( %path%
) won't work in 4DOS (last I tried), nor Win32's CMD (worse, probably
due to LFNs and/or spaces).

 The difficult part is Microsoft's command.com as it lacks a lot of
 variables and concurrent directory/drive switching.

Variables such as what? I'm not sure why you'd try using their shell
here, perhaps installing from within Windows?? I think Win32's CMD.EXE
supports %CD% instead of %_CWD% and cd /d instead of cdd, if
that's what you meant.

 Just as the 1.44MB bootdisk I uploaded should work with FreeDOS 1.1 CD
 (but doesn't yet,  in my uploads), so should any other bootdisk.

Good luck!

(Sadly I'm not much use testing right now, though I did manually
install FreeDOS the other day and auto-installed PuppyLinux. Yeah,
even my other P4 computer now has PSU problems [randomly turning on
and off], so I'm back to this new one, where Windows hosed itself.
Sometimes I hate computers.)

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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] Can't Install; FreeDOS 1.1 test release #2

2011-07-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again,

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also had written a silly WHATDRIV.COM util used on one of my
 floppies, but I can't remember why. Maybe I was expecting someone to
 convert to .ISO (mkbiso) or whatever. Not sure if that would help here
 or not.

My old BARE_DOS floppy has this (just so you know):

@echo off

if exist rugxfish.ans copy /b rugxfish.ans con

echo.



whatdriv

if errorlevel 1 set drive=A

if errorlevel 2 set drive=B

if errorlevel 3 set drive=C

if errorlevel 4 set drive=D

if errorlevel 5 set drive=E

if errorlevel 6 set drive=F

if errorlevel 7 set drive=G

path %drive%:\

if not %CONFIG%==0 if not %CONFIG%==1 path %PATH%;%drive%:\386


... (etc etc etc, not relevant here)

All my computers are in disarray (as always), but I did use NDISASM to
dump the bits of WHATDRIV.COM:

0100  268E062C00mov es,[es:0x2c]

0105  31FF  xor di,di

0107  30C0  xor al,al

0109  B9mov cx,0x

010C  F2AE  repne scasb

010E  AEscasb

010F  75FB  jnz 0x10c

0111  268A4502  mov al,[es:di+0x2]

0115  2C40  sub al,0x40

0117  B44C  mov ah,0x4c

0119  CD21  int 0x21


I don't know if this helps or not (oh well) !!:-/

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