Re: [Freedos-devel] Bad dates / false updates in Software List

2011-09-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:52 PM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.freedos.org/software/?cat=base

 The list pretends many things (HIMEMX, FREECOM, DISKCOPY, ...)
 to have been updated recently 2011, but this is not true.

As mentioned, it's because the date is from when the LSM was updated,
not the files themselves.

 Also the directory timestamps at ibibio are bad / misleading, but
 surprisingly not for DISKCOPY.

To my eyes, all the dirs for Diskcopy seem to have the same date (21
Jan 2008), so I don't see how it's better here.

 IIRC I had already complained about this some time ago,

I can vaguely understand wanting to easily know when something was
last updated, but I don't think it's hugely important (or realistic)
here.

 isn't there a set directory timestamps to newest content ?

Dunno, I'm pretty *nix noobish, so I couldn't tell you. Anyways,
iBiblio is the server, and they run Linux, so whatever Linux does or
accepts is what you have to live with:

[freedos@login1 ~]$ uptime
 14:19:27 up 60 days,  4:59,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.09
[freedos@login1 ~]$ whoami
freedos
[freedos@login1 ~]$ uname -a
Linux login1.ibiblio.org 2.6.18-238.12.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue May 31
13:22:04 EDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I did just now create a temporary subdir under /tmp, used touch -r
to use a different file as reference for date, which changed it to
2005, but as soon as you do anything in the newly-created subdir (e.g.
create a new text file), the datestamp (at least as shown by default
ls) resets to current date. So yeah, that's *nix for ya.

I think it'd be too tedious to re-date everything in the archive, esp.
for so little benefit. In other words, if you want to know when
something was updated, it's probably best just to download it and see
for yourself. (Even that's not immune to misleading dates, e.g. it
could be a newer recompile of an older tool. And some rare packages
erroneously have dates in the future. This is why some people manually
datestamp their documents internally.)

BTW, I have already been trying to use unzip -T on any files I
upload, but usually I don't go searching around applying that to
everything and the kitchen sink.   ;-)

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Bad dates / false updates in Software List

2011-09-13 Thread Jim Hall
The Last Updated dates in the Software List represent the last time the LSM
entry was modified, NOT the date of the most recent release. We might have
done some cleanup on some of those items, or updated the maintainer, and the
Last Updated would have been automatically set to when we touched that
entry.

In most cases, it's because we realized we'd missed the most recent release
of something (ie, posted a news item on the web site, but no one mirrored
the new version to ibilio or updated the Software List.) When Bernd started
working on FreeDOS 1.1, I went through the Software List to make sure
everything was correct - and found quite a few items that needed to be
updated.

jh

On Sep 12, 2011 11:52 PM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.freedos.org/software/?cat=base

The list pretends many things (HIMEMX, FREECOM, DISKCOPY, ...)
to have been updated recently 2011, but this is not true.

Also the directory timestamps at ibibio are bad / misleading, but
surprisingly not for DISKCOPY. IIRC I had already complained
about this some time ago, isn't there a set directory
timestamps to newest content ?

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[Freedos-devel] Bad dates / false updates in Software List

2011-09-12 Thread dos386
http://www.freedos.org/software/?cat=base

The list pretends many things (HIMEMX, FREECOM, DISKCOPY, ...)
to have been updated recently 2011, but this is not true.

Also the directory timestamps at ibibio are bad / misleading, but
surprisingly not for DISKCOPY. IIRC I had already complained
about this some time ago, isn't there a set directory
timestamps to newest content ?

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