Re: [Freedos-devel] Documentation Formats

2022-02-23 Thread Jim Hall
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 1:04 AM Robert Riebisch  wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> > Why is PDF format needed? The kernel documentation is in plain text,
> > which is readable everywhere on every system.
>
> If you use ASCII only.
>
> Otherwise you might get into the trouble of codepages. ;-)
>
> But yes, plain text works for most documentation.
>


Yes, for plain documentation I don't see a need for "extended ASCII"
above 127. If you're describing how to compile a program, or who
contributed to a program, or where to download a program, or the
license for a program, or whatever .. standard ASCII should be fine.
:-)



Jim


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Re: [Freedos-devel] Documentation Formats

2022-02-21 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Jim,

> Why is PDF format needed? The kernel documentation is in plain text,
> which is readable everywhere on every system.

If you use ASCII only.

Otherwise you might get into the trouble of codepages. ;-)

But yes, plain text works for most documentation.

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Documentation Formats

2022-02-21 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Jim,

> Python isn't really meant for DOS. But hey, we've had other things
> ported to FreeDOS that weren't really "meant" for DOS.
> 
> If you want to port Python to FreeDOS, I'm sure some folks would like
> to use it. So, if you're looking for permission: go ahead and port
> Python for DOS.

There already is an older Python for DOS:
http://www.caddit.net/pythond/

Never used it.

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Documentation Formats

2022-02-21 Thread Jim Hall
> On 2/21/2022 9:33 AM, Prime Seal wrote:
>
> > [..] I have also noticed that FreeDOS does
> > not have python

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 3:37 PM Ralf Quint  wrote:
>
> A programming language that requires a multi-megabyte virtual machine to
> run is just not suited for use on FreeDOS (or any DOS for that matter)...
>


Python isn't really meant for DOS. But hey, we've had other things
ported to FreeDOS that weren't really "meant" for DOS.

If you want to port Python to FreeDOS, I'm sure some folks would like
to use it. So, if you're looking for permission: go ahead and port
Python for DOS.


Jim


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Re: [Freedos-devel] Documentation Formats

2022-02-21 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:33 AM Prime Seal  wrote:
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> Dear Sir[Jim Hall]
>
> I like FreeDOS but I have noticed the shortage of documentation of different 
> formats e.g downloadable PDF. There is also a lack of documentation of kernel 
> customizations for compilation.
> making it unfriendly for forking. I once commented on you YouTube channel 
> about UPX giving errors. I have also noticed that FreeDOS does not have python
>


If you start at the "Source Code" page on the FreeDOS website
 and click on "Kernel Source Code"
you'll end up at Jeremy's GitHub: 

And if you click on the "docs" directory, you'll find a bunch of
documentation about the kernel, including "build.txt" about how to
build the kernel. This file says, in part:

> To build the operating system a batch file (BUILD.BAT) is included
> to make life easier.  This file is in the FDKERNEL directory of the
> distribution.  In addition, there is a corresponding batch file
> (CLEAN.BAT) to clean up the source directories.
>
> There is a CONFIG.B file that specifies all the paths and names of
> the compiler, assembler, etc. that you want to use.  You MUST copy
> it to CONFIG.BAT first, then edit it to reflect your setup.


and:

> The recommended compiler and assembler at the time of writing (2009/05/19)
> are OpenWatcom 1.8 and NASM 2.05.01.


and:

> Optionally, the kernel can be compressed using UPX. You can find
> UPX at http://upx.sourceforge.net. Simply adjust config.bat to
> enable it.


Other documentation files you'll find here:

bugs.txt build.txt config.txt contrib.txt history.txt index.md
intfns.txt lfnapi.txt memdisk.txt mkboot.txt nls.txt readme.cvs
readme.txt sys.txt


Why is PDF format needed? The kernel documentation is in plain text,
which is readable everywhere on every system.


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Re: [Freedos-devel] Documentation Formats

2022-02-21 Thread Ralf Quint

On 2/21/2022 9:33 AM, Prime Seal wrote:

Dear Sir[Jim Hall]

I like FreeDOS but I have noticed the shortage of documentation of 
different formats e.g downloadable PDF.

...
There is also a lack of documentation of kernel customizations for 
compilation.
You are not working with another version of Linux. There are not many 
options for kernel optimization...
making it unfriendly for forking. I once commented on you YouTube 
channel about UPX giving errors. I have also noticed that FreeDOS does 
not have python


A programming language that requires a multi-megabyte virtual machine to 
run is just not suited for use on FreeDOS (or any DOS for that matter)...


Ralf


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[Freedos-devel] Documentation Formats

2022-02-21 Thread Prime Seal
Dear Sir[Jim Hall]

I like FreeDOS but I have noticed the shortage of documentation of
different formats e.g downloadable PDF. There is also a lack of
documentation of kernel customizations for compilation.
making it unfriendly for forking. I once commented on you YouTube channel
about UPX giving errors. I have also noticed that FreeDOS does not have
python

Kind Regards
Seal Prime
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