[Freedos-devel] Format problem

2005-11-24 Thread Alain

First of all, let me say that I love the SERIOUSLY option!!

But I found a problem formating floppies: If the user aborts formating 
using , the disk becomes invalid (that's normal) and after that 
the same floppy cannot be formated again, there is the classical 
Abort/Retry/Fail and hitting Fail gives this error:

  Invalid Drive! Aborting.
   [Error 61]

I have to use MS-DOS's format to reformat that floppy...

First let me say that aborting is to be expected with real users, even 
something that I personally do very ofthen: bulk erase with a power magnet!


What I believe that is happening is that the boot sector becomes invalid 
(which is ok) but when formating again, format tries to retrieve some 
media information and aborts without trying to reformat track0 first.


Please help,
Alain


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Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem

2004-08-29 Thread Johnson Lam
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:32:03 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Uso,

>Ah yeah... I've heard of them.  There's actually, I think, a customized 
>version of FreeDOS for the PC98 series, called FreeDOS(98).  I've used 
>it a little in emulation.

Where you find the source of FreeDOS(98)?
I want to take a look.

Thanks.


Rgds,
Johnson.



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Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem

2004-08-27 Thread Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze
Johnson Lam wrote:
I work for PC hardware since IBM PC was born. I learn too much program
incompatible to some kind of hardware (especially Japan PC-9801
series). So being a programmer is tough.
Ah yeah... I've heard of them.  There's actually, I think, a customized 
version of FreeDOS for the PC98 series, called FreeDOS(98).  I've used 
it a little in emulation.

-uso.
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem

2004-08-27 Thread Johnson Lam
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:56:08 +0300, you wrote:

Hi Lucho,

>So BIOS uses some CHS translation mechanism here. What BIOS 
>brand/version/date you have?

Acer Altos 300B (fade out model, 233MHz)
I picked up our customer throw away PC for FreeDOS testing, it's USB
totally sucks, almost all drivers failed.

I work for PC hardware since IBM PC was born. I learn too much program
incompatible to some kind of hardware (especially Japan PC-9801
series). So being a programmer is tough.

>> LBA support Yes 3098.8MB of LBA addressable 3098.8MB in CHS mode
>What a pity that your BIOS can't use LBA mode! Or can it?

Nothing to choose, just AUTO or USER

>This means UDMA. You could try the UDMA driver there but it will probably 
>insist on LBA and fail.

Failed, what a pity.

>FreeCOM doesn't affect FORMAT. If by "2035a" you mean the unstable kernel, 
>then this means that both the stable and the unstable kernels cause FORMAT 
>to complain. So, there is NO additional bug in the unstable kernel but a 
>common bug in both kernel branches. Or am I wrong?

But I can't explain why I zero-fill the hard disk with SeaTools and
one of my hard disk can format successfully (another Seagate still
fail). Maybe FORMAT try to inspect the sector but look the wrong
position? Or FDISK did some tricks that FORMAT think "It's BAD".

I'm really not sure the Kernel or FreeCOM have bugs or not, sorry but
it's beyond my ability, as I test them with some tough program such as
Chinese system, it can produce the same failure everytime, as
expected. So I think both of them reached a certain level of
stability, say 84% of M$-DOS.

Testing shows only M$-DOS can format, and the debug information is not
enoguh (may need low-level tracing by debugger, step by step).


Rgds,
Johnson.



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Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem

2004-08-27 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
# of Cylinders__:6296  6296   787
# of Heads__:  1616   128
# of Sectors/Track__:  636363
So BIOS uses some CHS translation mechanism here. What BIOS 
brand/version/date you have?

LBA support Yes 3098.8MB of LBA addressable 3098.8MB in CHS mode
What a pity that your BIOS can't use LBA mode! Or can it?
Congratulations, your drive supports ATA-2
This means UDMA. You could try the UDMA driver there but it will probably 
insist on LBA and fail.

I've try 4 combination of kernel 2035/2035a, FreeCOM 0.82pl3 and 
0.82pl3ak. Format still complain "5 consecutive bad sector" as before. 
But I can boot Win98 and using FORMAT 0.91s to format the hard disk.
FreeCOM doesn't affect FORMAT. If by "2035a" you mean the unstable kernel, 
then this means that both the stable and the unstable kernels cause FORMAT 
to complain. So, there is NO additional bug in the unstable kernel but a 
common bug in both kernel branches. Or am I wrong?

Regards,
Lucho
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[Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem

2004-08-26 Thread Johnson Lam
Hi,

I found an old program which can display IDE's information. But no
information who code it. I think it can be distributed.

http://johnson.tmfc.net/file/ide.exe

I hope the information can help to trouble shoot the format problem.
Here's result of my office's SEAGATE hard disk:

=

DRIVE 1 Adapter 0 at base address 1f0h
Disk ReportsBIOS Reports
Default Current
# of Cylinders__:62966296 787
# of Heads__:  16  16 128
# of Sectors/Track__:  63  63  63
Model Number: ST33210A
Serial Number___: 7AB05DNV
Controller Rev. #___: 1.70
Double Word Transfer: No
Controller type_: Not specified/Unknown
Buffer size (kB):256
# of ECC bytes__:  0
# of secs/interrupt_: 16Current setting  16
LBA support  Yes3098.8MB of LBA addressable 3098.8MB in
CHS mode
DMA support  Yes
IORDY supported  Yes
IORDY can be disabledYes
PIO data txfer cycle timing mode:   2
SW DMA txfer cycle timing modes: Active
MW DMA txfer cycle timing modes:Active 2

Congratulations, your drive supports ATA-2
Advanced PIO txfer modes supported:
Min MW DMA txfer cycle time/word:  120 ns   16.7MB/s
Mfg Recommended MW DMA txfer Cycle Time120 ns   16.7MB/s
Min PIO txfer Cycle Time w/o Flow Control  240 ns   8.3MB/s
Min PIO txfer Cycle Time w IORDY Flow Control  120 ns   16.7MB/s

=

I've try 4 combination of kernel 2035/2035a, FreeCOM 0.82pl3 and
0.82pl3ak. Format still complain "5 consecutive bad sector" as before.
But I can boot Win98 and using FORMAT 0.91s to format the hard disk.

Sorry for the long mail.


Rgds,
Johnson.



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