[Freedos-devel] Format problem
First of all, let me say that I love the SERIOUSLY option!! But I found a problem formating floppies: If the user aborts formating using , the disk becomes invalid (that's normal) and after that the same floppy cannot be formated again, there is the classical Abort/Retry/Fail and hitting Fail gives this error: Invalid Drive! Aborting. [Error 61] I have to use MS-DOS's format to reformat that floppy... First let me say that aborting is to be expected with real users, even something that I personally do very ofthen: bulk erase with a power magnet! What I believe that is happening is that the boot sector becomes invalid (which is ok) but when formating again, format tries to retrieve some media information and aborts without trying to reformat track0 first. Please help, Alain --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:32:03 -0400, you wrote: Hi Uso, >Ah yeah... I've heard of them. There's actually, I think, a customized >version of FreeDOS for the PC98 series, called FreeDOS(98). I've used >it a little in emulation. Where you find the source of FreeDOS(98)? I want to take a look. Thanks. Rgds, Johnson. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem
Johnson Lam wrote: I work for PC hardware since IBM PC was born. I learn too much program incompatible to some kind of hardware (especially Japan PC-9801 series). So being a programmer is tough. Ah yeah... I've heard of them. There's actually, I think, a customized version of FreeDOS for the PC98 series, called FreeDOS(98). I've used it a little in emulation. -uso. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:56:08 +0300, you wrote: Hi Lucho, >So BIOS uses some CHS translation mechanism here. What BIOS >brand/version/date you have? Acer Altos 300B (fade out model, 233MHz) I picked up our customer throw away PC for FreeDOS testing, it's USB totally sucks, almost all drivers failed. I work for PC hardware since IBM PC was born. I learn too much program incompatible to some kind of hardware (especially Japan PC-9801 series). So being a programmer is tough. >> LBA support Yes 3098.8MB of LBA addressable 3098.8MB in CHS mode >What a pity that your BIOS can't use LBA mode! Or can it? Nothing to choose, just AUTO or USER >This means UDMA. You could try the UDMA driver there but it will probably >insist on LBA and fail. Failed, what a pity. >FreeCOM doesn't affect FORMAT. If by "2035a" you mean the unstable kernel, >then this means that both the stable and the unstable kernels cause FORMAT >to complain. So, there is NO additional bug in the unstable kernel but a >common bug in both kernel branches. Or am I wrong? But I can't explain why I zero-fill the hard disk with SeaTools and one of my hard disk can format successfully (another Seagate still fail). Maybe FORMAT try to inspect the sector but look the wrong position? Or FDISK did some tricks that FORMAT think "It's BAD". I'm really not sure the Kernel or FreeCOM have bugs or not, sorry but it's beyond my ability, as I test them with some tough program such as Chinese system, it can produce the same failure everytime, as expected. So I think both of them reached a certain level of stability, say 84% of M$-DOS. Testing shows only M$-DOS can format, and the debug information is not enoguh (may need low-level tracing by debugger, step by step). Rgds, Johnson. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem
# of Cylinders__:6296 6296 787 # of Heads__: 1616 128 # of Sectors/Track__: 636363 So BIOS uses some CHS translation mechanism here. What BIOS brand/version/date you have? LBA support Yes 3098.8MB of LBA addressable 3098.8MB in CHS mode What a pity that your BIOS can't use LBA mode! Or can it? Congratulations, your drive supports ATA-2 This means UDMA. You could try the UDMA driver there but it will probably insist on LBA and fail. I've try 4 combination of kernel 2035/2035a, FreeCOM 0.82pl3 and 0.82pl3ak. Format still complain "5 consecutive bad sector" as before. But I can boot Win98 and using FORMAT 0.91s to format the hard disk. FreeCOM doesn't affect FORMAT. If by "2035a" you mean the unstable kernel, then this means that both the stable and the unstable kernels cause FORMAT to complain. So, there is NO additional bug in the unstable kernel but a common bug in both kernel branches. Or am I wrong? Regards, Lucho --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FORMAT problem
Hi, I found an old program which can display IDE's information. But no information who code it. I think it can be distributed. http://johnson.tmfc.net/file/ide.exe I hope the information can help to trouble shoot the format problem. Here's result of my office's SEAGATE hard disk: = DRIVE 1 Adapter 0 at base address 1f0h Disk ReportsBIOS Reports Default Current # of Cylinders__:62966296 787 # of Heads__: 16 16 128 # of Sectors/Track__: 63 63 63 Model Number: ST33210A Serial Number___: 7AB05DNV Controller Rev. #___: 1.70 Double Word Transfer: No Controller type_: Not specified/Unknown Buffer size (kB):256 # of ECC bytes__: 0 # of secs/interrupt_: 16Current setting 16 LBA support Yes3098.8MB of LBA addressable 3098.8MB in CHS mode DMA support Yes IORDY supported Yes IORDY can be disabledYes PIO data txfer cycle timing mode: 2 SW DMA txfer cycle timing modes: Active MW DMA txfer cycle timing modes:Active 2 Congratulations, your drive supports ATA-2 Advanced PIO txfer modes supported: Min MW DMA txfer cycle time/word: 120 ns 16.7MB/s Mfg Recommended MW DMA txfer Cycle Time120 ns 16.7MB/s Min PIO txfer Cycle Time w/o Flow Control 240 ns 8.3MB/s Min PIO txfer Cycle Time w IORDY Flow Control 120 ns 16.7MB/s = I've try 4 combination of kernel 2035/2035a, FreeCOM 0.82pl3 and 0.82pl3ak. Format still complain "5 consecutive bad sector" as before. But I can boot Win98 and using FORMAT 0.91s to format the hard disk. Sorry for the long mail. Rgds, Johnson. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel