Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel fattab.c,1.30,1.31 fatfs.c,1.66,1.67

2004-05-09 Thread James Tabor
Hi Bart!
Bart Oldeman wrote:
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote:

don't pay too much notice. This is just standard ritual. Scary thing is
that it's being going on pretty much the same way for three years now.
Time for me to unsubscribe from the mailing lists and have a break from
FreeDOS.
Bart



Hang in there! This has gone on for more than 3 years!

I remember one time I suggested making changes to the kernel that was not 100%
dos compatible. Than a unholy flame war erupted. The funny thing was, I wasn't
trying to start one. Something about, sound blaster driver in ring 0 thing'y.
Shit! Thou'z where the days!
Don't give in Bart, the Kernel kickz a$$,
James
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel fattab.c,1.30,1.31 fatfs.c,1.66,1.67

2004-05-09 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Sun, 9 May 2004, James Tabor wrote:

 Hi Bart!
 Bart Oldeman wrote:
  On Tue, 4 May 2004, Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote:
 
  don't pay too much notice. This is just standard ritual. Scary thing is
  that it's being going on pretty much the same way for three years now.
 
  Time for me to unsubscribe from the mailing lists and have a break from
  FreeDOS.
 
 
 Hang in there! This has gone on for more than 3 years!

What I was referring to is this discussion between Tom and me on one side
and Arkady on the other. We all know exactly where we stand, yet Arkady
seems to ignore all what is said in the last three years and continues to
supply me with patches that he should *know* I ignore. With the odd
good fix in between but it's quite difficult to find it as a 10 line fix
snowed in between 900 lines of layout changes and micro-optimizations
(and most of those optimizations are either neutral or make the code size
worse for Watcom).

This I have told many many times and if you do it too often you get tired
of it.

See for instance
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00752.html
I mean:
 * From: Arkady V.Belousov
 * Subject: [Freedos-kernel] patch: mix
 * Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:56:11 -0700

Arkady, you should split this patch in 20 easily digestible chunks, and I
will apply about 3 of them. If you don't want to split it, fine, the patch
just goes to NUL.

I have to reduce my FreeDOS activities anyway, starting a new job on the
other side of the world in six weeks, moving, etc. Another reason is
that it works mostly well enough for me now so my motivation to fix the
remaining things isn't very high anymore. So at this point I can either
just stop completely or spend say an hour per week or so on it. With the
amount of pressure from the mailing lists and private emails it just
looks easier to stop with it, as a kernel maintainer can't do a good job
with such a small amount of time -- people will start to complain that I
don't respond (I certainly won't have time and motivation to digest and
split Arkady's patches; far more enjoyable to have a beer in the pub or
run a half marathon).

That's all there is to it really. I'm sure someone will step in and
disagree but that's competely pointless as I have nothing to lose.

Bart



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Splitting patch (was: [Freedos-devel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel fattab.c,1.30,1.31 fatfs.c,1.66,1.67)

2004-05-09 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

9--2004 15:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BO See for instance
BO  * From: Arkady V.Belousov
BO  * Subject: [Freedos-kernel] patch: mix
BO  * Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:56:11 -0700
BO Arkady, you should split this patch in 20 easily digestible chunks, and I
BO will apply about 3 of them. If you don't want to split it, fine, the patch
BO just goes to NUL.

 How? See:

- in intr.asm changed allocmem().
- to allocmem() relate changes in init-mod.h and config.c.

- but config.c also changes freeAvailableBuf pointer to HMAuserarea offset,
  and this change spreaded also between init-mod.h, inthndlr.c, globals.h.
- in these files are also some other changes: for example, in intr.asm fixed
  prototypes.

How to split these changes (into digestable chunks)? Explain me, if you know
this. I _suggest_, that I may do this so:

- get my file and copy some changes from it to intermediate file.
- make diff-file.
- restore original contents of intermediate file and copy next change; goto
  step 2.

But this is error prone process, and it may affect subsequent patching
(especially if changes are crossed). Also, patch for batch and makefiles
can't be splitted, because these changes related.

PS: In next letter in -kernel@ I try to extract some changes.




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Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel fattab.c,1.30,1.31 fatfs.c,1.66,1.67

2004-05-05 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

4--2004 22:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 don't pay too much notice. This is just standard ritual.

 This is offensive notice - I permanently try to bugfix/enhance, but
usually ignored. :(

 Scary thing is
 that it's being going on pretty much the same way for three years now.

 Because I not (yet) lost hope - and sometime you reuse my patches. Some
patches are reused after very long delay (for example, optimization for
ddt_descflags in dsk.c I was propose half year ago). But many things are
ignored again and again. Earlier, because not tested, now because doesn't
liked. Anyway, hope is live (yet).

 Time for me to unsubscribe from the mailing lists and have a break from
 FreeDOS.
A Please Bart, don't. We have already lost Lucho for no more than this.

 Agreed.




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Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel fattab.c,1.30,1.31 fatfs.c,1.66,1.67

2004-05-04 Thread Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze
tom ehlert wrote:
Hello Arkady,


+  wasfree = 0;
+  if (cluster == FREE)
+wasfree = 1;


   wasfree = cluster == FREE;


well - we know that gifted russian programmers can read this cryptic
stuff fluently.
mortal programmers like me prefer a more readable style.

tom
wasfree = (cluster == FREE); ?   (That's how I'd prolly have written 
it myself, and I'm not really much of a programmer)

-uso.



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