Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: FreeDOS Beta9 RC5 has been released

2004-04-25 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Aitor Santamaría Merino wrote:

 Bernd Blaauw escribió:

  right now on updated ODIN bootdisk the CPI files take almost 600KB (10
  * 60KB),
  which is nearly half the disk! (and makes creating 720KB more difficult).

 Perhaps it's a question to check the CPI files, perhaps for MOST of the
 countries, just 2 or 3 of those CPI files are not enough, and not 10 of
 them.
 It's just a question of where to put the limit.

What was the compression proposal about? Help files or CPI files?

For the CPI files it would really help since they compress 90%, and if you
concatenate them together and then zip them it only takes up 34K instead
of 600K. So a single compressed EGA.CPI would be really nice.

Bart



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Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: FreeDOS Beta9 RC5 has been released

2004-04-25 Thread Bernd Blaauw
help-files are already collected in a zipfile, Rob worked on that.

I suggested compressing the CPI-files to Eric using Gzip,
but that would add Zlib to MODE.
Eric likes another less efficient but smaller to implement compression 
algorythm/program.
he said it reduces CPI from 58 (60) to 19KB (Gzip: 5KB or 6KB)
only providing a few CPI-files will not do.
That's the same as only providing most used keyboard layouts: useless for some people.
compressing CPI-files allows more programs to be added.

Bernd

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: FreeDOS Beta9 RC5 has been released

2004-04-25 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Ooops...

Aitor Santamaría Merino escribió:

Bernd Blaauw escribió:

right now on updated ODIN bootdisk the CPI files take almost 600KB 
(10 * 60KB),
which is nearly half the disk! (and makes creating 720KB more 
difficult).


Perhaps it's a question to check the CPI files, perhaps for MOST of 
the countries, just 2 or 3 of those CPI files are not enough, and not 
10 of them.
Ouch, I meant just 2 or 3 of those CPI files ARE enough (no not).
Sorry...
Aitor
(Thanks Eric :))
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: FreeDOS Beta9 RC5 has been released

2004-04-20 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Eric Auer wrote:

 This reminds me of the 386 question: How much bigger than the FAT16
 kernel is the FAT32 kernel in RAM (low, umb, hma) and how much of
 this would be saved by optimizing for 386, experiences?

Low:

the drive data tables take 32 bytes more per drive (depends on the number
of partitions you have, independent of LASTDRIVE)

The 2 low fnodes take 6 bytes more for FAT32 (12 bytes total)

HMA:HEX DEC
   8086  80186  80386  8086   80186  80386

FAT16  995c   9694   94c5 39260   38548  38085
FAT32  a7cb   a4ed   a24a 42955   42221  41546

i.e. FAT32 adds ~3.5-3.7K; 386 optimizes out ~1.2-1.4K

The fnodes take 6 bytes more (6 * #FILES)

UMB
no difference

 How about speed gain?

Perhaps, sometimes 1, 2 or 3 more BUFFERS available can make a difference.
Otherwise I can't see any visible speed difference.

Bart



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Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: FreeDOS Beta9 RC5 has been released

2004-04-20 Thread Alain


Bart Oldeman escreveu:

How about speed gain?
Perhaps, sometimes 1, 2 or 3 more BUFFERS available can make a difference.
Otherwise I can't see any visible speed difference.
I did som testing some time ago (M$DOS) and my conclusion is that if 
other buffers are present (in my case smatrdrv and internal cache) it is 
best _not_ to have too much buffers, no more that something between 10 
and 20.

In my case I limited to 10, but I remember som Windows problem if 
buffers were 20, but that could be in wfw3.11...

Alain



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