Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
Hi, On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Matej Horvat wrote: > On Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:12:56 +0100, Rugxulo wrote: > >> BTW, what Allegro are you using? Stock 4.2.2? Raine dude's patched >> version? Other? > > How does this patched version differ from the original, and why not use > 4.2.3.1, which is the last (official, anyway) release for DOS? I don't know (or don't remember). Honestly, I'm not sure Allegro was well-maintained for DOS in its later years. IIRC, at first it was only broken build scripts that prevented support, but later on they changed too much and relied too heavily on other things (OpenGL, et al). > I had no difficulty compiling it with DJGPP nor Open Watcom - for the latter, > see: > > http://matejhorvat.si/en/dos/allegwat/ I did once or twice (years ago) build with OpenWatcom, but it was more of a curiosity than anything directly useful to me: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/allegro/contrib/watcom.txt And yes, even the OpenWatcom version needs some DJGPP tools to build. Not sure why DJGPP's Make would crash on you, though. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
Hi,
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Matej Horvat
wrote:
>
> Georg's port has a couple of rough edges. It wastes power when idle (no INT
> 28h calls)
__dpmi_yield() would probably be best under DJGPP:
http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/libc/libc_279.html
> and for me it always crashed when opening file choice dialogs (but not in
> NTVDM).
Just a guess, but try unsetting %LANG% first ("set LANG=") before running.
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Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
Again, this is a fork of FLTK to native DOS. Georg's port emulates a window manager such as Windows or X11. It does not contain native FLTK drivers for DOS. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Wed, 07 Feb 2018 18:28:12 +0100, Matej Horvat wrote: > > Georg's port has a couple of rough edges. It wastes power when idle (no > > INT 28h calls) and for me it always crashed when opening file choice > > dialogs (but not in NTVDM). Open Watcom support would be welcome as > > well. > > On the other hand, it might be easier/faster/more efficient to patch > Georg's port instead of reinventing it from scratch. Anyway, I'm not > criticizing, just pointing out that the effort has been done already. > ultimately, the more the merrier I guess. > > Mateusz > -- > FreeDOS is present on the USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos > > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
I built the demo using stock allegro-4.2.3.1 from the following repo https://github.com/liballeg/allegro5/releases/download/v4-2-3-1/all4231.zip I have no idea what the differences are from 4.2.2 and 4.2.3. DJGPP provides a 4.2.2 and it may be worthwhile to try and build with it. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:54 AM, Mark Olesen > wrote: > > > > I am working on a project forking FLTK to run on FreeDOS. > > > > It is a work in progress but is coming around nicely. > > Looks good! > > BTW, what Allegro are you using? Stock 4.2.2? Raine dude's patched > version? Other? > > * https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/ > devel/libs/allegro/contrib/ > * http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=14983#p14983 > > I'm not really super familiar with Allegro, just (barely!) toyed with > it a few times (not lately). I think some few DOS-based Doom ports > still try to use old 3.x, ugh! > > * http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=40857 > > Also, neozeed has been mucking with an ancient GCC for his Doom builds > using older Allegro. > > * https://virtuallyfun.com/ > * https://sourceforge.net/projects/crossdjgppv1/ > > (It's always annoying how hard it is to reliably rebuild stuff. Some > times it just seriously won't work, even if the compile+link > succeeds.) > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
This is a native port of FLTK to DOS. It does not require microwindows/nano-x. The feature set is what FLTK provides, a simple GUI toolkit. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:36 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 23:54:32 -0700, Mark Olesen wrote: > > I am working on a project forking FLTK to run on FreeDOS. > > > > The github page is: > > https://github.com/markjolesen/fltkal > > Georg did it a couple of years ago. > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/fltk-dos/ > > Will your port have some other goals? Different feature-set? Just curious. > > Mateusz > -- > FreeDOS is present on the USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos > > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
On Wed, 07 Feb 2018 18:28:12 +0100, Matej Horvat wrote: > Georg's port has a couple of rough edges. It wastes power when idle (no > INT 28h calls) and for me it always crashed when opening file choice > dialogs (but not in NTVDM). Open Watcom support would be welcome as > well. On the other hand, it might be easier/faster/more efficient to patch Georg's port instead of reinventing it from scratch. Anyway, I'm not criticizing, just pointing out that the effort has been done already. ultimately, the more the merrier I guess. Mateusz -- FreeDOS is present on the USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
On Wed, 07 Feb 2018 17:12:56 +0100, Rugxulo wrote: BTW, what Allegro are you using? Stock 4.2.2? Raine dude's patched version? Other? How does this patched version differ from the original, and why not use 4.2.3.1, which is the last (official, anyway) release for DOS? I had no difficulty compiling it with DJGPP nor Open Watcom - for the latter, see: http://matejhorvat.si/en/dos/allegwat/ -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
On Wed, 07 Feb 2018 08:36:00 +0100, Mateusz Viste wrote: On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 23:54:32 -0700, Mark Olesen wrote: I am working on a project forking FLTK to run on FreeDOS. The github page is: https://github.com/markjolesen/fltkal Georg did it a couple of years ago. https://sourceforge.net/projects/fltk-dos/ Georg's port has a couple of rough edges. It wastes power when idle (no INT 28h calls) and for me it always crashed when opening file choice dialogs (but not in NTVDM). Open Watcom support would be welcome as well. These are just my suggestions how this port could differentiate itself. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
Hi, On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:54 AM, Mark Olesen wrote: > > I am working on a project forking FLTK to run on FreeDOS. > > It is a work in progress but is coming around nicely. Looks good! BTW, what Allegro are you using? Stock 4.2.2? Raine dude's patched version? Other? * https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/libs/allegro/contrib/ * http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=14983#p14983 I'm not really super familiar with Allegro, just (barely!) toyed with it a few times (not lately). I think some few DOS-based Doom ports still try to use old 3.x, ugh! * http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=40857 Also, neozeed has been mucking with an ancient GCC for his Doom builds using older Allegro. * https://virtuallyfun.com/ * https://sourceforge.net/projects/crossdjgppv1/ (It's always annoying how hard it is to reliably rebuild stuff. Some times it just seriously won't work, even if the compile+link succeeds.) -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
On Tue, 06 Feb 2018 23:54:32 -0700, Mark Olesen wrote: > I am working on a project forking FLTK to run on FreeDOS. > > The github page is: > https://github.com/markjolesen/fltkal Georg did it a couple of years ago. https://sourceforge.net/projects/fltk-dos/ Will your port have some other goals? Different feature-set? Just curious. Mateusz -- FreeDOS is present on the USENET, too! alt.os.free-dos -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] fltkal a DOS fork of FLTK using Allegro and DJGPP
I am working on a project forking FLTK to run on FreeDOS. The github page is: https://github.com/markjolesen/fltkal A sample (lame) demo can be found here: https://youtu.be/FpA-R-ko_z4 It is a work in progress but is coming around nicely. Comments and suggestions are welcome. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
