[Freedos-kernel] Int21.7304.sf03 should actually copy/move FATs

2009-08-06 Thread Christian Masloch
Hi,

the kernel is supposed to support all Int21.7304 (Set DPB/BPB fields for  
formatting) subfunctions but doesn't provide subfunction 03h completely.  
The current code simply gets (and sets as requested) the flags from the  
BPB, but doesn't move the FAT accordingly. MS-DOS apparently contains code  
to do so. This isn't documented in RBIL, but can be tested by setting the  
active FAT (of a FAT32 drive) to a single one, then resetting the flags to  
include all FATs later. The second call overwrites the previously inactive  
FAT(s) with a copy of the active one. (Depending on the size of the file  
system, this results in a short delay. If this isn't the case,  
files/directories can be created (changing FAT entries) while only the  
active FAT is used and dosfsck can be used to insure both FATs have the  
same content later when the flags were reset.)

Regards,
Christian

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Re: [Freedos-kernel] Int21.7304.sf03 should actually copy/move FATs

2009-08-06 Thread Bart Oldeman
2009/8/6 Christian Masloch :
> the kernel is supposed to support all Int21.7304 (Set DPB/BPB fields for
> formatting) subfunctions but doesn't provide subfunction 03h completely.
> The current code simply gets (and sets as requested) the flags from the
> BPB, but doesn't move the FAT accordingly. MS-DOS apparently contains code
> to do so. This isn't documented in RBIL, but can be tested by setting the
> active FAT (of a FAT32 drive) to a single one, then resetting the flags to
> include all FATs later. The second call overwrites the previously inactive
> FAT(s) with a copy of the active one. (Depending on the size of the file
> system, this results in a short delay. If this isn't the case,
> files/directories can be created (changing FAT entries) while only the
> active FAT is used and dosfsck can be used to insure both FATs have the
> same content later when the flags were reset.)

About a month ago I looked at the int21/ah=73 functions and there are
a lot of corrections to make, mostly because RBIL is very brief in
this area.

I found this documentation which says more or less what you tell us too:
http://www.thehackademy.net/madchat/vxdevl/vxmags/moonbug05/FAT32_32.HTM

The links don't work without manually correcting URLs (case
sensitivity!) but this looks like MSDN-style Microsoft documentation.

Bart

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[Freedos-kernel] new kernel released

2009-08-06 Thread Tom Ehlert
The kernel developers have just finished up 2039 for release a
few days ago (mostly bugfixes), so you can download it at ibiblio (
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2039/
or at sourceforge (
http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos )


just wondering, why

a) this wasn't advertised on this list and

b) why there isn't a 386-fat32 binary available (hardly anyone even
knows where he might see a real 8086 machine), and the 386 resident code is
~1,5 KB smaller

Tom



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Re: [Freedos-kernel] Int21.7304.sf03 should actually copy/move FATs

2009-08-06 Thread Victor Vlasenko
Bart Oldeman wrote:
> 2009/8/6 Christian Masloch :
>   
>> the kernel is supposed to support all Int21.7304 (Set DPB/BPB fields for
>> formatting) subfunctions but doesn't provide subfunction 03h completely.
>> The current code simply gets (and sets as requested) the flags from the
>> BPB, but doesn't move the FAT accordingly. MS-DOS apparently contains code
>> to do so. This isn't documented in RBIL, but can be tested by setting the
>> active FAT (of a FAT32 drive) to a single one, then resetting the flags to
>> include all FATs later. The second call overwrites the previously inactive
>> FAT(s) with a copy of the active one. (Depending on the size of the file
>> system, this results in a short delay. If this isn't the case,
>> files/directories can be created (changing FAT entries) while only the
>> active FAT is used and dosfsck can be used to insure both FATs have the
>> same content later when the flags were reset.)
>> 
>
> About a month ago I looked at the int21/ah=73 functions and there are
> a lot of corrections to make, mostly because RBIL is very brief in
> this area.
>
> I found this documentation which says more or less what you tell us too:
> http://www.thehackademy.net/madchat/vxdevl/vxmags/moonbug05/FAT32_32.HTM
>   

Yeah, the RBIL was mainly used as guide for development of FAT32 support, but 
MSDN was checked too, though RBIL was more complete on this topic at that time, 
dunno about MSDN's completeness at present time. We really need more complete 
docs on FAT32 to support it smoothly. Various bits of the info are spread over 
the internet here and there. Recovering the truth from these bits are very 
painful process.

Victor Vlasenko


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Re: [Freedos-kernel] new kernel released

2009-08-06 Thread Pat Villani
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Tom Ehlert  wrote:

*** SNIP ***

> just wondering, why
>
> a) this wasn't advertised on this list and

Oversight.


> b) why there isn't a 386-fat32 binary available (hardly anyone even
> knows where he might see a real 8086 machine), and the 386 resident code is
> ~1,5 KB smaller

Point out the file(s) that were missed and I'll do an update.

If, in the future, you or any other kernel developer would like to
write up a better announcement, feel free to do so and give it to me.
I'll follow through.

Thanks.

Pat

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