[Freedos-user] Re: Will FreeDOS work from a primary slave partition?
Hi Arkady, you can do even more: with a boot loader (lilo, grub, WinXP one...) you can boot FreeDOS from any partition on any sane int 13h device which is in FAT12/16/32 format. HOWEVER, the kernel will always search the config file on A: (if booted from ANY floppy) or C: (if booted from ANY harddisk), NOT on the current drive. The good point: The kernel does not even have to exist on a FAT drive! You can load a FAT16-only kernel from a FAT32 disk with a FAT32 boot loader, and it will search the config file on the first (as in "according to DOS drive letter numbering, which you can toggle between 2 possible styles with help of SYS CONFIG, the drive C:") FAT12/FAT16 harddisk partition. The bad point: You need at least 1 file on C: even if the rest of FreeDOS is installed on another harddisk drive letter. Together with Tyler I recently developed a quick and dirty patch where the config file can contain a (processed in "0th pass") BOOTDRIVE=X line which makes FreeDOS select drive X: and load the config file from there for the other passes. Trying to find the partition which contained the kernel would be a bonus but if the search FAILS, there must still be the fallback "search config file on C:". Eric --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] OpenGEM Release 3 is now out
> 667-1 Butsushozanchokou Say that 3 times really fast :-) Joe --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] OpenGEM Release 3 is now out
OpenGEM Release 3 is now officially out, and can be download for free from http://gem.shaneland.co.uk (4.32mb download) OpenGEM Release 3 is designed for FreeDOS, and is intended to provide a simple and powerful GUI for the FreeDOS community as it progresses towards version 1.0 of the operating system. OpenGEM Release 3 has been tested in BETA form by several members of the FreeDOS community, and no errors have been reported so far :) In fact, testing has had some pretty positive feedback. To quote one tester: "OpenGEM 3 Beta is way better than OpenGEM 2. It runs DOS games pretty well. It never crashed while I used it, and I ran a few of the programs and they seem to work fine. OpenGEM 2 had a handful of annoying problems, which are fixed in OpenGEM 3. Woohoo! In essence, OpenGEM 2 kind of sucked, but OpenGEM 3 is quite nice! Keep up the good work!" Another user said: "OpenGEM is running quite well, the record is 14 hours without crashing. and that is just in 3 days." The third generation of the OpenGEM GUI distribution features many advances from the previous versions, not least a vastly improved memory overhead and increased stability. It is also almost one megabyte smaller than OpenGEM 2.2.0. OpenGEM Release 3 is 8.7mb fully installed, as opposed to OpenGEM 2.2.0's 9.5mb. Amazingly this is not at the cost of removing applications. OpenGEM Release 3 features all the GEM applications people have become used to, including word processing, web browsing, spreadsheet and DTP software. The motto with this third generation release is to get rid of junk, cut out unused options, and generally think "switch on and use" when it comes to the distribution. I believe that OpenGEM is pretty much the number one 16bit GPL GUI, and I hope to further consolidate this position with this new release. No one even comes close in the range of applications, development and reliability. The good news is that OpenGEM Release 3 is designed to be much easier to use, to update, and generally to maintain on your machine than ever before. It is designed to be the most simple, most effective and most useful 16bit GPL graphical user interface for DOS based computers. OpenGEM Release 3 will be supported by myself and my website (http://gem.shaneland.co.uk) until at least December 2005. I will continue to support OpenGEM 2.2.0 and GEMini Release 2 until the same date. If you need support simply email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the meantime I am moving to Japan on the 24th of August! My address (in case anyone wants to drop by) is going to be Shane Coughlan #A-102 Sunlight Heights 667-1 Butsushozanchokou Takamatsu-Shi Kagawa-Ken 761-8078 Japan On a final note, I see that FreeDOS is now ten years old. Congratulations all your FreeDOS people. OpenGEM is three years old this year, and GEM itself is actually having a bit of a special birthday. DR GEM is twenty years old (it was first released in 1984). We should all have parties :P Best regards Shane http://gem.shaneland.co.uk PS: Jim said he'd place a note on the FreeDOS site about OpenGEM when he gets back from vacation. Lucky chap. PPS: I am aware that I announced I would not develop OpenGEM further last May, but people just kept emailing me. I gave in. I just have to continue the development of this software :P PPPS: In case you are curious about the software, but cannot be bothered to go to the website, here is some information: OpenGEM Release 3 - Get a graphical user interface that's good for you As FreeDOS reaches version 1.0, the DOS world needs to have software that is easy to install, easy to use, and easy to apply to individual problems. OpenGEM qualifies for all three 'easies.' It's a realistic contender for being a base component on PCs that need a small and powerful graphical user interface. OpenGEM is not about fancy skins, colourful wallpaper, or 3D gaming. OpenGEM is about understanding that DOS users need some simple, reliable applications to do their jobs, and they don't want rubbish to fill their hard drives. Perhaps we're biased, but we believe OpenGEM is by far the best 16bit single tasking GPL GUI and application set that you can get for DOS. - Use a graphical user interface without a degree in rocket science When you install OpenGEM (through its automatic install files!) you just go to C:\ and type GEM. That's it. OpenGEM starts, and you get to play with your graphical user interface right away. What's more, OpenGEM works on almost any IBM PC ever made. As long as it has a 086 or above processor, and 512kb of RAM, OpenGEM should start itself happily. And the best part is that OpenGEM looks and feels pretty much like any other 'windowing' system out there. This means you should be up and running in no time at all. - Run applications without problems GEM, FreeGEM and OpenGEM applications almost always run first time, every time. They are small, compact, and don't need endless updates just to function. In fact, the only thi
Re: [Freedos-user] Will FreeDOS work from a primary slave partition?
Hi! 30-Июл-2004 21:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rakhesh Sasidharan) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RS> My primary master drive is completely filled -- with win 98, win xp, RS> freebsd, and linux -- but I have a primary slave drive that is kinda RS> empty and I was wondering if I can install FreeDOS there. You can. RS> first. :) If I remember correctly, MS DOS has a limitation that it must RS> be the first partition on the primary master drive ... right? No. It perfectly starts from _any_ _primary_ (not logical) _active_ (marked as bootable) partition. RS> If FreeDOS does work from a primary slave drive, does it have to be on RS> the first primary partition? What about other drives (secondary master/ RS> slave)? 1. Some BIOSes in BIOS Setup allows to point boot order. If there is "D", then you may boot from secondary disk (disk, not partition! BIOS doesn't knows about partitions). If not, you should use external boot manager, which will call boot code from required boot sector. 2. FreeDOS' boot code accepts from BIOS information about disk, from which it loaded, so it may startup kernel.sys from any disk, which may be booted by BIOS (or boot loader). 3. kernel.sys searches (fd)config.sys on current drive, which is (at startup) always C:, which assigned to primary active partition on first disk, so configuration files in any case should be placed here. BTW, what if FreeDOS will search (fd)config.sys not on C:, but on real bootable partition? Kernel knows which disk was used to boot (currently not preserved - at start of main.c:FreeDOSmain() LoL->BootDrive initialized to 1..3 for A:,B: and C:), and initdisk.c:ReadAllPartitionTables() may compute, which partition is booted from boot drive, so before calling DoConfig() consequent drive (instead C:) may be selected as default. Any objections? --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] serial and parallel port thro' dosemu
Hi! 1-Авг-2004 15:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasad Mehendale) wrote to freedos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: PM> Can anyone guide me to access serial and parallel ports using freedos in PM> dosemu? copy file prn copy file aux Here "pren" and "aux" are drive names of first printer port (LPT1) and first serial port (COM1). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Serial port card
Hi! 3-Авг-2004 19:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Price) wrote to Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I assume that given the right BIOS CMOS setup the PCI card will >> simply work with all DOS programs. JP> True, but how does a DOS program know what IRQ and port to JP> use? Can it use one of the predefined ones(4,3,4,3 & JP> 2e8,3e8,2f8,3f8) or will it be some other unusual combo? By default, UART IO addresses you may get from BIOS data area at 0:400 (four word for four UARTs). IRQ usually assumed: COM1=COM3=IRQ4, COM2=COM4=IRQ3. Unfortunately, there is not well known standard way, how to detect real assigned IRQ to (legacy) hardware, but in some cases this is possible. For example, COMTEST from CuteMouse package (tries to) detect IRQs, assigned to UARTs. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Re: ODIN 0.70
Hi!
6-Авг-2004 04:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Lumpkin) wrote to
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GL> autoexec.bat
GL>
GL> @echo off
GL> set PATH=A:
GL> set temp=A:
GL> set tmp=A:
set temp=a:\
set tmp=a:\
path a:\
Note absolute (not relative) path ("A:" mean current directory on the
A: drive). Also, PATH statement looks better in shorter form. :)
GL> config.sys
GL> ~~~
GL> LASTDRIVE=Z
GL> BUFFERS=20
This is default.
GL> FILES=40
GL> DOS=HIGH,UMB
GL> DOSDATA=UMB
numlock off
break on
dos high,umb
dosdata umb
country ...
lastdrive z
;buffers 16
stacks 0,0
files 40
fcbs 1
device himem.sys
device emm386.exe ram i=b000-b800
; NOTE: for MS-EMM386 should be used "i=b000-b7ff"
shellhigh command.com /p /e:1024
; big environment is required, if you is programmer,
; else you may reduce 1024 to 256 or 128
GL> 12?DEVICE=A:\HIMEM.EXE
I prefer to omit absolute pathes here - else you can't copy config.sys
to other drives (say, C:). Ie.:
12?device=himem.exe
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