[Freedos-user] FRISK Software stops development of F-Prot Antivirus for DOS

[Robert Riebisch]

Hi!

It seems, that FRISK Software has stopped further development of the DOS
version of F-Prot Antivirus. File 316F.NEW reads: "3.16f is expected to
be the last version of the DOS scanner."

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Re: [Freedos-user] Glad to know FreeDOS move fast again!

[Jim Hall]

Johnson Lam wrote:
> [...]
> Don't want to put advertisement here, someone will be angry. Please
> visit my homepage (http://johnson.tmfc.net) and have a look.
>   

Warning: if you have slow dialup, visit 
http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/index.html instead.  The top-level page has 
a 769kb photograph.  I'm on broadband, and it still took about 8 seconds 
to load the image.  (Johnson: if you save the photo as a JPG, it's 290kb.)


-jh



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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS "1.0" in the news...

[Florian Xaver]

Hi!

STANDARD is one of the few better newspapers in Austria.
http://derstandard.at/?id=2502519

Bye
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oZone-a GUI operating system for DOS,Linux,Win
SWORD-a nice GUI library for DOS/DJGPP









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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS "1.0" in the news...

[Jim Hall]

Florian Xaver wrote:
> Hi!
>
> STANDARD is one of the few better newspapers in Austria.
> http://derstandard.at/?id=2502519

I _think_ this is a rough translation of the text (Babblefish got me 
started .. I cleaned it up as best I could, but I don't speak/read German):


> *DOS lives - FreeDOS 1.0 comes at the end of of July*
>
> The free operating system is almost fully compatible with MS-DOS (?) - 
> created in response to the attitude(?) of MS-DOS.
>
> --
>
> The FreeDOS Project intends to release at the end of July version 1.0 
> of the free operating system. The developers communicated this on 
> Saturday. Before that, a test version is to be published on 15 July.
>
> *Almost fully compatible with MS-DOS* (?)
>
> FreeDOS is open source software and is almost fully compatible with 
> MS-DOS (?) The project started in 1994 - after Microsoft announced 
> MS-DOS was going to be retired. 

Florian: can you send me a better English translation off-list?  This 
should probably get added to the "FreeDOS in the News" section on the site.


-jh


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Re: [Freedos-user] Complete Novice Needs Help

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

2-Июл-2006 10:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Long) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

EL> I would like to use Free Dos on a new lap top (Windows
EL> XL) for when the time comes that old computer may die.
EL>  But I have absolutely no idea how to do this.  Is a
EL> comprehensive set of guidance instructions available
EL> that would tell an computer-dumb old fellow like me
EL> how to do this?

1. You should have Windows (XP - not XL) installed on FAT partition or you
should have separate FAT partition, if Windows installed on partitions with
NTFS file system. DOS supports only FAT file system and not recognizes NTFS
partition (unless _after_ DOS booting you run some driver, like NTFSDOS,
which allows to read files from NTFS partition).

EL> Basically I would like to have the
EL> option to boot up either DOS or Windows XL when I
EL> start up the computer

2. After installing both OS (Windows/DOS, Windows/Linux, DOS/Linux, etc),
you should install boot manager, which will allow you to select, which OS to
boot. Windows XP contains own boot manager, so you may use it.

3. Or, you may run DOS programs directly inside Windows XP, which have DOS 5
emulator.

4. Or, you may install machine emulator (VMWare, Boch, QEMU, etc), which
allows you to run multiple different OSes (including FreeDOS) inside other
OSes (including Windows XP).

EL> This new lap top has a "dual-processor" in it.  So is
EL> it possible to simultaneously run DOS with one of
EL> those processors and Windows with the other?

 No. _Multi-processor_ is _not_ the same as _multi-machine_. Multiple
processors may be only reused by OS, which knows what is multiprocessing and
how to use it - but all these resources remains owned only by this OS.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Glad to know FreeDOS move fast again!

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Johnson,

> But I still want to help people in need, so my homepage updated with
> "NEW DRIVERS", welcome to have a try on your PC.

Your site is very helpful. It makes a change to see a site that is 
active; there are too many projects get forgotten and their sites not 
updated.

> Don't want to put advertisement here, someone will be angry. Please
> visit my homepage (http://johnson.tmfc.net) and have a look.

I think the news page needs a link to



It's not clear to new visitors you have to click "DOS" in the left frame.

> The latest driver not only do UltraDMA, also can REPLACE the bulky
> SMARTDRV, NORTON CACHE and CACHE2 ...

But not for SCSI and SATAII?

ATA/IDE disks have pretty much died...

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Re: [Freedos-user] FRISK Software stops development of F-Prot Antivirus for DOS

[Gerry Hickman]

Robert Riebisch wrote:

> It seems, that FRISK Software has stopped further development of the DOS
> version of F-Prot Antivirus. File 316F.NEW reads: "3.16f is expected to
> be the last version of the DOS scanner."

Bad news?!?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Glad to know FreeDOS move fast again!

[Gerry Hickman]

Jim Hall wrote:

> Warning: if you have slow dialup, visit 
> http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/index.html instead.  The top-level page has 
> a 769kb photograph.

Yes it's a nice photo, but it took ages to load!

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS "1.0" in the news...

[Gerry Hickman]

Jim Hall wrote:

>> *Almost fully compatible with MS-DOS* (?)

LOL, what about the fact it's 100 times better and more modern than 
MS-DOS?!?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Complete Novice Needs Help

[Mark Bailey]

Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 2-Июл-2006 10:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Long) wrote to 
> freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
> 
> EL> I would like to use Free Dos on a new lap top (Windows EL> XL)
> for when the time comes that old computer may die. EL>  But I have
> absolutely no idea how to do this.  Is a EL> comprehensive set of
> guidance instructions available EL> that would tell an computer-dumb
> old fellow like me EL> how to do this?
> 
> 1. You should have Windows (XP - not XL) installed on FAT partition
> or you should have separate FAT partition, if Windows installed on
> partitions with NTFS file system. DOS supports only FAT file system
> and not recognizes NTFS partition (unless _after_ DOS booting you run
> some driver, like NTFSDOS, which allows to read files from NTFS
> partition).
> 
> EL> Basically I would like to have the EL> option to boot up either
> DOS or Windows XL when I EL> start up the computer
> 

There are (at least) three ways to dual boot WindowsXP and FreeDOS.  The
new WindowsXP machines I have purchased (or gotten through work) have
WindowsXP preinstalled on an NTFS partition.  It is possible to shrink
the NTFS partition, create a new FAT32 partition, install FreeDOS on the
new partition, and use a boot manager to select WindowsXP or FreeDOS.
This doesn't require re-installing WindowsXP and FreeDOS is in its
own separate partition.  For fairly complete directions, see
http://odin.fdos.org/dual/, fdinst091.pdf.  If you have
any questions, send me an e-mail.

This is what I do to all of my machines.

If WindowsXP is installed on a FAT32 partition, you can use the FreeDOS
installer to put FreeDOS on the same partition as WindowsXP and use the
Windows boot manager (I think) to select it or Windows.  If you don't
have WindowsXP on a FAT32 partition, you would have to convert the
partition somehow or reinstall WindowsXP.  Again, the new machines
I have run into have WindowsXP on an NTFS partition.

The approved Microsoft method is basically a third way.
They suggest repartitioning the disk (destroying the WindowsXP
installation), installing FreeDOS, then re-installing WindowsXP.
See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/learnmore/multiboot.mspx

To use this method:
> If you have already installed Windows, and you have only one
> partition, you must reformat and partition your hard drive before you
> can multiboot.

How can we help you get your dual boot machine set up?

Mark Bailey

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Re: [Freedos-user] Glad to know FreeDOS move fast again!

[Johnson Lam]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 07:41:59 -0500, you wrote:

Hi Jim,

>Warning: if you have slow dialup, visit 
>http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/index.html instead.  The top-level page has 
>a 769kb photograph.  I'm on broadband, and it still took about 8 seconds 
>to load the image.  (Johnson: if you save the photo as a JPG, it's 290kb.)

I'll change it, not only because of the size, but the quality.

Thanks for advise.


Rgds,
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS "1.0" in the news...

[Neal Gompa]

Yet, without much modification to the configuration of the system, and grabbing some proprietary utils, it cannot run Windows for Workgroups... It is better, I agree, but to be fully compatible, it should run one of the most complex apps out of the box, which is Windows for Workgroups 
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS "1.0" in the news...

[Michael Devore]

At 04:39 PM 7/3/2006 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
>Yet, without much modification to the configuration of the system, and 
>grabbing some proprietary utils, it cannot run Windows for Workgroups... 
>It is better, I agree, but to be fully compatible, it should run one of 
>the most complex apps out of the box, which is Windows for Workgroups 3.11.

An excellent FreeDOS 2.0 goal, so that no one need feel complacent or that 
all the good stuff has already been done in 1.0.

1.5 goal, even.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Glad to know FreeDOS move fast again!

[Johnson Lam]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:44:11 +0100, you wrote:

Hi Gerry,

>Your site is very helpful. It makes a change to see a site that is 
>active; there are too many projects get forgotten and their sites not 
>updated.

Thanks.
I steal the idea from someone, to let you know what's updated ASAP.

>It's not clear to new visitors you have to click "DOS" in the left frame.

Sorry, forgot to mention.

>> The latest driver not only do UltraDMA, also can REPLACE the bulky
>> SMARTDRV, NORTON CACHE and CACHE2 ...
>But not for SCSI and SATAII?

SCSI, no! SATAII ... planning.

>ATA/IDE disks have pretty much died...

Well ... As a habit, people will use the old PC for DOS, but we're
trying to catch up and show them even latest PC can run DOS, Jack
built the latest drivers for new hardware, but we also need powerful
OS and "killer" applications.

I think a "easy to use" package of "DOS + network + applications" are
urgent for those people still suffering from MS's slot machine.


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Re: [Freedos-user] FRISK Software stops development of F-Prot Antivirus for DOS

[Johnson Lam]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:45:00 +0100, you wrote:


>> It seems, that FRISK Software has stopped further development of the DOS
>> version of F-Prot Antivirus. File 316F.NEW reads: "3.16f is expected to
>> be the last version of the DOS scanner."
>
>Bad news?!?

Of course, I like F-PROT, small and powerful.
Clam have no official for DOS (DOS version port by Blair Campbell,
have some minor problems), and without a nice UI like F-PROT.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Glad to know FreeDOS move fast again!

[Johnson Lam]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:45:58 +0100, you wrote:

Hi,

>Yes it's a nice photo, but it took ages to load!

It's night view of Hong Kong.
I'll replace it, let me find a better photo.


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