Re: [Freedos-user] Results of testing fdbasecd.iso dated...

2006-08-22 Thread saywhat
Arkady V.Belousov writes:
> 21-???-2006 14:07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to 
> 
> sn>I will ask this question:  If FreeDOS is released as is, and users
> sn> start seeing these msgs on their PCs, will they know that the problem
> sn> is *not* caused by FreeDOS? 
> 
>  So, you think, current menu tree is worse? I think, then you should try
> to draft own tree, which (you think) is better, and offer it for review for
> Blair. Sorry, I can't give further advices and help in this case, because
> all other depends from Blair.

   I have made some suggestions.  And Blair has showed remarkable grace
in responding to them (given my abrupt entrance here).  But I doubt that I
could do a fraction of the work he's doing, let alone do it well.  My small
contribution is testing some of this stuff on real machines (as opposed to
emulators). 

 -Eddie 


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Re: [Freedos-user] corrupted directory sector from using SMARTDRV 6.22 with FreeDOS?

2006-08-22 Thread saywhat

Michael Devore wrote:
> At 02:50 PM 8/21/2006 -0600, Eddie wrote: 
> 
>>I was really hoping that this problem had been silently fixed by
>>all of the other work that has been done recently.
> 
> Doesn't look VDS-related, the executable only uses a couple of common calls 
> there.  Not much more I can tell you.  Maybe the original LFN conjecture of 
> a problem.  If you can duplicate a problem at will, you could try without 
> EMM386 loaded to make VM86 isn't getting in the way along the way, but 
> doesn't sound like it.

   Thanks for checking this out.  I suspect that I *will* be able to find
a test case that gives a repeatable failure - but it may be a few days
before I get back to it.  Also Eric confirmed that this is *not* a new 
problem; he said that there is a report in Bugzilla about it. 

 -Eddie 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Results of testing fdbasecd.iso dated...

2006-08-22 Thread saywhat
Blair Campbell wrote: 

> Those are more likely ISOLinux issues, and most users will probably
> not be using PART (which seems to interpret ISOLinux somehow as a
> virus, which would somewhat seem like a PART bug to me at least).

   I figured that ISOLinux might be the culprit since PART was detecting
that something was different while the BIOS's detection code wasn't.  And 
you may be right about it being a PART bug. 

   I don't even know how widely used PART was; it may be rare.  The
reason that I included it in my report is that it seemed like a good
example of the kind of messy interactions (with other pgms) that FreeDOS is 
likely to encounter once 1.0 is released.  Who knows what kind of software
is out there that FreeDOS will conflict with - bad BIOSs, anti-virus 
scanners, boot managers, compression schemes, etc.? 

   I'm hoping to *help* eliminate some potential problems by providing
examples of some of the risks of asking FreeDOS to do things which the
BIOS can do for itself (e.g. reboot, detect hdds, etc.).  Maybe by reducing
some of the risky tasks FreeDOS does, we can reduce the number of times that 
FreeDOS will be blamed for things which are not its fault.

 -Eddie 


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[Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?

2006-08-22 Thread Staffanson Brian J Civ 309 EMXG/QPE
I have a Dell laptop, with a P3 500MHz processor, and 512 MB ram, but the
display is broken.  The computer still works, so I want to do something with
it.  Then I came up with this (crazy?) idea of integrating it into a
portable stereo that I have pulled apart, and making this stereo a MP3
player.  I know how I want to implement the motherboard to the stereo (I
think).  My question to you all:  is freedos a good OS to use in this
situation?  I want quick start-up and shut-down times, and I understand DOS
does.  Almost immediate.  I plan on removing all unnecessary parts of the
laptop, which are the screen (obvious, as it is broken), and the mouse, and
keyboard(?).  Can freedos run without the keyboard?  For controls, I am
thinking of using the serial port with a 4X4 keypad or something like that.
I know the basics of programming in C++, and think that I can implement the
serial port, and have it command the MP3 player.  Maybe some automatic
start-up, or something.  

As I am basically new to the world of DOS, how easy is it to adapt the sound
card driver from Win98 to DOS?  

I now await your thoughts, comments, and ideas.  Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Brian

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Re: [Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?

2006-08-22 Thread Johnson Lam
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:40:27 -0600, you wrote:

Hi Staffanson,

>As I am basically new to the world of DOS, how easy is it to adapt the sound
>card driver from Win98 to DOS?  
>
>I now await your thoughts, comments, and ideas.  Any help would be
>appreciated.

You can ask BAHCL for details, he coded automatic jukebox alike
program.

The most improtant step is to find the sound card driver of your DELL
PC. It may be a SoundMAX, REALTEK or CMI chipset (AC97), to make AC97
work in DOS, as I remember only MPXPLAY can.

If you can post more information about your hardware, I may try to
help to find sound driver for you.


Rgds,
Johnson.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?

2006-08-22 Thread Staffanson Brian J Civ 309 EMXG/QPE
I appreciate your willingness to help.  

I have been to the Dell website, and downloaded the win98 soundcard driver.
I don't remember off the top of my head, what the specific hardware is.  But
can the win98 driver be adapted to DOS?

Thanks,
Brian

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To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:40:27 -0600, you wrote:

Hi Staffanson,

>As I am basically new to the world of DOS, how easy is it to adapt the
sound
>card driver from Win98 to DOS?  
>
>I now await your thoughts, comments, and ideas.  Any help would be
>appreciated.

You can ask BAHCL for details, he coded automatic jukebox alike
program.

The most improtant step is to find the sound card driver of your DELL
PC. It may be a SoundMAX, REALTEK or CMI chipset (AC97), to make AC97
work in DOS, as I remember only MPXPLAY can.

If you can post more information about your hardware, I may try to
help to find sound driver for you.


Rgds,
Johnson.

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[Freedos-user] Problems to download

2006-08-22 Thread hal (br.inter.net)
Title: Mensagem



Hello.
    I´m a new user in the FreeDos 
and I want to download the 1.0 version to install in a 386 
PC.
    
I´m having some problems to download the iso image 
"fdbasecd.iso" in the directory http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0-Testing/. 
I can´t do the login because I don´t know the username and the 
password.
    
    Can someone help me?
 
Thanks
Henrique Alberto Loureiro

Skype: henrique.loureiro 
Tel +55 (19) 3278-4321
 
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Problems to download

2006-08-22 Thread Eric Auer


Hi! After getting the same error here, I used another
FTP client, and got the error message that anonymous
access to the FTP server (which will normally work,
so you do not need any username or password) has
reached the maximum 400 simultaneous users already.

So we will have to try again at some less busy time
of the day, that should solve the problem :-).

But, as we are already talking about servers for
FreeDOS 1.0, I would suggest that people who want
to provide mirror space on their own web servers
or ftp servers should contact us now :-). When we
have the final version of FreeDOS 1.0 ready, it
would be nice if people would have the choice
between several servers for downloading it.

Eric


Hello. I?m a new user in the FreeDos and I want to download the 1.0
version to install in a 386 PC. I?m having some problems to download
the iso image "fdbasecd.iso" in the directory
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0-Testing/
I can?t do the login because I don?t know the username and the password.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?

2006-08-22 Thread Chris Evans
You can make a covox/dac (amp) and plug it into the printer port 8bit audio
to speaker heh play the notes/freq. right out of the printer I/O lines. If
you want I can digitize the circuit plan and email it to you.

>As I am basically new to the world of DOS, how easy is it to adapt the
sound
>card driver from Win98 to DOS?

Not possible to get a vxd to run under dos.

Freedos dont care if there actual physical componant just as long as the
INT/ I/O ports are there for it to poll and it wont know ..


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Subject: [Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?


I have a Dell laptop, with a P3 500MHz processor, and 512 MB ram, but the
display is broken.  The computer still works, so I want to do something with
it.  Then I came up with this (crazy?) idea of integrating it into a
portable stereo that I have pulled apart, and making this stereo a MP3
player.  I know how I want to implement the motherboard to the stereo (I
think).  My question to you all:  is freedos a good OS to use in this
situation?  I want quick start-up and shut-down times, and I understand DOS
does.  Almost immediate.  I plan on removing all unnecessary parts of the
laptop, which are the screen (obvious, as it is broken), and the mouse, and
keyboard(?).  Can freedos run without the keyboard?  For controls, I am
thinking of using the serial port with a 4X4 keypad or something like that.
I know the basics of programming in C++, and think that I can implement the
serial port, and have it command the MP3 player.  Maybe some automatic
start-up, or something.

I now await your thoughts, comments, and ideas.  Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Brian

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Re: [Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?

2006-08-22 Thread Johnson Lam
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:15:21 -0600, you wrote:

Hi,

>I have been to the Dell website, and downloaded the win98 soundcard driver.
>I don't remember off the top of my head, what the specific hardware is.  But
>can the win98 driver be adapted to DOS?

Chris was right, VxD can't run under DOS.

For a very little chance some old Win95 drivers will include ".SYS"
may work under pure DOS.

If you can figure out the model number of the sound chips, then you
may have a chance.


Rgds,
Johnson.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?

2006-08-22 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

22-Авг-2006 06:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Staffanson Brian J Civ 309
EMXG/QPE) wrote to "'freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net'"
:

SBE> it.  Then I came up with this (crazy?) idea of integrating it into a
SBE> portable stereo that I have pulled apart, and making this stereo a MP3
SBE> player.  I know how I want to implement the motherboard to the stereo (I
SBE> think).  My question to you all:  is freedos a good OS to use in this
SBE> situation?

 Not worser, than other DOSes.

SBE> I want quick start-up and shut-down times, and I understand DOS
SBE> does.

 Yes.

SBE> Almost immediate.  I plan on removing all unnecessary parts of the
SBE> laptop, which are the screen (obvious, as it is broken), and the mouse, and
SBE> keyboard(?).

 Do you sure, that without these components you notebook will boot at
all? BTW, in BIOS setup in desktop computers there is "Halt on:" option,
which allows you exclude keyboard errors (missing keyboard) from stopping
boot.

SBE> Can freedos run without the keyboard?  For controls, I am

 Sure. Just prepare a lot of scripts, which will automatically run from
autoexec.bat.

SBE> As I am basically new to the world of DOS, how easy is it to adapt the
SBE> sound
SBE> card driver from Win98 to DOS?

 Impossible. :( Completely different OS architectures.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release

2006-08-22 Thread Gerry Hickman
Hi Norbert,

> The network client isn't loaded high at all.

OK.

> And if you use umbpci everything works fine on all machines in our network.

Yes, that's my experience too.

> So, there must be some functionality in emm386 that is this different
> compared to umbpci that some machines do not like.

Hehe, "some functionality" - it's completely different!

> And that is why I would like to send this bootdisk to Michael to examine
> what is wrong.

Great, but are you sure it's ONLY the network card? How do you know it's 
not a more fundamental problem that only reveals itself when you start 
to stress the system? Which IFSHLP.SYS are you using?

-- 
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[Freedos-user] Announce: NLSFUNC 0.4 (critical bug fix)

2006-08-22 Thread Eduardo Casino
Hi All,

I'd like to announce version 0.4 of NLSFUNC. It fixes a critical bug that can 
cause memory corruption, so upgrade is mandatory.

You can download it from
http://perso.wanadoo.es/babelfish/nlsfunc/nlsfn04x.zip (binary)
and
http://perso.wanadoo.es/babelfish/nlsfunc/nlsfn04s.zip (source)

Remember that nlsfunc works with kernel 2037 only!

Regards,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?

2006-08-22 Thread Blair Campbell
> The most improtant step is to find the sound card driver of your DELL
> PC. It may be a SoundMAX, REALTEK or CMI chipset (AC97), to make AC97
> work in DOS, as I remember only MPXPLAY can.

AC97 can be unmuted quite easily in DOS with a utility.  MPXPlay
however does not require such a utility to work, and can play directly
to many sound cards without requiring special SB emulation drivers.
See mpxplay.sf.net (it is a VERY good music player, supporting a wide
variety of sound formats).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release

2006-08-22 Thread Blair Campbell
About WASM: I have found it to be to a degree compatible with TASM; so
much so in fact that it can generally assemble the output of tcc -S in
Turbo C 2.01.

On 8/22/06, Gerry Hickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Norbert,
>
> > The network client isn't loaded high at all.
>
> OK.
>
> > And if you use umbpci everything works fine on all machines in our
> network.
>
> Yes, that's my experience too.
>
> > So, there must be some functionality in emm386 that is this different
> > compared to umbpci that some machines do not like.
>
> Hehe, "some functionality" - it's completely different!
>
> > And that is why I would like to send this bootdisk to Michael to examine
> > what is wrong.
>
> Great, but are you sure it's ONLY the network card? How do you know it's
> not a more fundamental problem that only reveals itself when you start
> to stress the system? Which IFSHLP.SYS are you using?
>
> --
> Gerry Hickman (London UK)
>
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