[Freedos-user] MS LanManager
I got some mail, thanks for all. One asked me where to download it to inspect, it's here. ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/Clients/LANMAN/ Run with /d option or use unzip for each file. One told me LANMAN works fine with FreeDOS 0.99. If it's really, this is important matter I think. He also told me about MS Client, but it seems less stable than LANMAN at least on FreeDOS 1.0 at least on VMware 5.0. I prefer LANMAN because it's *obsolete*, it's fine point for us I think. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/124175/en-us --- Mikiya Matsuzaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...
On Saturday 12 May 2007 20:11, Florian Xaver wrote: > Hi Jim, I all! Hi! > *Using 4DOS as standard command tool, and Bash or freecom as choice. 4DOS is okay, but I would prefer to have Freecom by default, and the choice to switch to bash/4DOS, because Freecom is the most similar to MSDOS COMMAND.COM.. > *Using JEMM as memory manager Good point here. JEMM is the natural evolution of Michael's EMM386, so it should be included as default. > *Using HX Extender & Co to support Windows programs in DOS HX Extender in a default instalation? I would say no... it should be rather available as an optional package. > *PythonD as modern script language For me, batch is just okay :) > *Using an Editor which supports large files (like FED or SETEDIT) The MS-EDIT from W98 is the best editor I've seen so far. To bad there aren't any free clone of it :( > *One standard file manager (my choice would be FW or NDN) File manager should be optional. Personally, I don't use such tools, I prefer to COPY / DEL and REN my files. Of course there should be at least 2-3 choices for file manager. > *No more 386- support Wow, not so fast! The purpose of FreeDOS is to reproduce a MSDOS system on x86 CPUs... Go read Jim's manifesto ;-) > (Download via WGET for additional tools could be possible.) If there are > more than one (like file managers) we could make a poll at freedos.org > where user and developer can choose them. I definetely agree with that! > And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-)) > Even with the drag'n'drop-bug it has many features and developing of > programs isn't difficult. Command-line is enough for me, Mateusz Viste - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...
Hi guys, IMHO, we should list small and simple things to do first, Specially because it is faster and we have not enough manpower :( while we all want many things, we have to take care of our dreams otherwise we can stall just like gnu Hurd, which is a *really* amazing project but is almost dead :( Also, we already did the brainstorm a long time ago just before FreeDOS 1.0 release, so, let's merger Jim's/Blair's/others doc and take small and simple things and do it, step by step, I know sometimes we just want to work on our own projects, because they are funny for us I mean, our own projects are funny for us because they are interesting for us, but would be possible other developers join some project which needs more help? I hope it helps :) Regards and Best Wishes, Geraldo ps: Eric released devload 3.18 and upx 3.0 was release sometime ago but just noticed today :( On 12/05/07, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/doszip/ evolves... :-) > > I don't like it. First time I tried it it looked ok...but there are > much better file managers out there. > > > > *No more 386- support > > Most changes, maybe all, which has been made, are for 386+ computers. > So one can use FreeDOS 1.0. > > > I don't like this idea, because DOS was made for 808x CPUs. So FreeDOS > > should run on these CPUs too. That doesn't mean, that you can't distribute > > optimized binaries for later CPUs. > > > > And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-)) > > Every OS needs a GUI. Also if you don't use it :-) > > Bye > Flo > -- > It is true that no one can essentially cultivate exact science > without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not > to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians > find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but > a part of mathematics. > (James Clerk Maxwell) > > Using Arachne, the GPL Web Browser/Suite > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 mobile: +55 11 8949-4757 - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...
Florian Xaver wrote: > Hi Jim, I all! > > What should change with FreeDOS 2.0? Some ideas, I think, they have to > be a must :-) > > > *Using an Editor which supports large files (like FED or SETEDIT) > FreeDOS Edlin can support large files! Gregory Pietsch - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/doszip/ evolves... :-) I don't like it. First time I tried it it looked ok...but there are much better file managers out there. > > *No more 386- support Most changes, maybe all, which has been made, are for 386+ computers. So one can use FreeDOS 1.0. > I don't like this idea, because DOS was made for 808x CPUs. So FreeDOS > should run on these CPUs too. That doesn't mean, that you can't distribute > optimized binaries for later CPUs. > > And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-)) Every OS needs a GUI. Also if you don't use it :-) Bye Flo -- It is true that no one can essentially cultivate exact science without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but a part of mathematics. (James Clerk Maxwell) Using Arachne, the GPL Web Browser/Suite - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...
Florian Xaver wrote: > *Using an Editor which supports large files (like FED or SETEDIT) Updated FED has been announced to a small audience only so far. For all others: It's at http://www.bttr-software.de/fed/ :-) > *One standard file manager (my choice would be FW or NDN) http://sourceforge.net/projects/doszip/ evolves... :-) > *No more 386- support I don't like this idea, because DOS was made for 808x CPUs. So FreeDOS should run on these CPUs too. That doesn't mean, that you can't distribute optimized binaries for later CPUs. > I also think, that it shouldn't be a BIG collection of all free DOS > programs. ACK > Network: Latest Arachne (a much more advanced version should be > distributed soon) is a ''must", also tools like WGET. And one big Yes, please also include other networking (ping, nslookup, tracert, FTP client) from, e.g., Watt-32. > problem still exists: a driver. So there should be a note at the "_a_ driver"? What driver? > installer, which points to FreeDOS Wiki or another site, where a good > documentation exists ( about installing such a driver). Again, what driver? > And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-)) I don't need a GUI. Sorry. ;-) Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...
Hi Jim, I all! What should change with FreeDOS 2.0? Some ideas, I think, they have to be a must :-) *Using 4DOS as standard command tool, and Bash or freecom as choice. *Using JEMM as memory manager *Using HX Extender & Co to support Windows programs in DOS *PythonD as modern script language *Using an Editor which supports large files (like FED or SETEDIT) *One standard file manager (my choice would be FW or NDN) *No more 386- support I also think, that it shouldn't be a BIG collection of all free DOS programs. The distribution should contain less, but powerful programs. (Download via WGET for additional tools could be possible.) If there are more than one (like file managers) we could make a poll at freedos.org where user and developer can choose them. Network: Latest Arachne (a much more advanced version should be distributed soon) is a ''must", also tools like WGET. And one big problem still exists: a driver. So there should be a note at the installer, which points to FreeDOS Wiki or another site, where a good documentation exists ( about installing such a driver). And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-)) Even with the drag'n'drop-bug it has many features and developing of programs isn't difficult. Bye Flo -- It is true that no one can essentially cultivate exact science without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but a part of mathematics. (James Clerk Maxwell) Using Arachne, the GPL Web Browser/Suite - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
