Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
There's no technical reason open document formats couldn't be supported on 386-486 machines, after all, the format itself has nothing to do with the cpu usage. As for using word perfect on windows 98se, I've done this on a 486- sx-66, and it worked just fine. I don't think you have to worry about too many processes or anything like that. And, for printing to modern printers, just use the default standard windows printer, as long as your printer has a windows driver, (and the word processor you're using can talk to standard windows processes) you should be able to print to any printer regardless of it's feature set. I know there's a program out there somewhere that will make windows printers show up as a dos print spool or something similar, but I've never used it, so can't comment on how well (or not) it works. If it's a problem for you though, you may want to look into locating it. Alternatively, just go find an older inkjet printer that has both usb and paralel connectors on it, then you can use it under dos and windows w/no problem, and it shouldn't cost much to get one, they show up all the time at local stores like unclaimed baggage here in town, though come to think of it, I've not seen any in good will for a while, guess they stopped accepting them. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
I managed to install and Run Abiword on Windows 2000. I installed Windows 2000 on a PC with a 200 MHz processor, 64 MB of RAM, 2 GB hard disk (much older than the PC itself) and it ran quite well. It ran Seamonkey quite well, also. I will look for Wordperfect in order to run it under Freedos. Alex Phone number: 004-0364412643 Mobile phone number: 004-0770607699 Messenger ID: firaalexandru Skype ID: alexfiracluj -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone know why 386 enhanced mode doesn't work Windows 3.1???
On Sunday 12 April 2009 02:35 (CEST), Eric Auer wrote: FDUPDATE is written in FreeBASIC and FreeBASIC might have issues if your CPU has no or no relatively modern FPU... I think Rugxulo knows a workaround for that and will mail about the issue with Mateusz. Hi, I really don't think it has anything to do with the used CPU type... FreeBASIC compiler is happy when it gets anything 386-compatible (IIRC FreeBASIC is emulating a FPU when none applicable has been found). Besides that, in another mail (maybe it was a mail to me only, can't remember if got its way to the list), the OP wrote that FDUPDATE is crashing when trying to apply an update. Therefore: - FDUPDATE starts correctly, - FDUPDATE makes wget downloading the index file from my server correctly, - FDUPDATE open the index file and load the package database correcyly, - It propose an update, basing on what has been found on user's system, - crash when launching wget to download that given package. So FDUPDATE is crashing the *second* time it run wget. Sounds odd. Could be indeed some open file left thing, but I carefully checked FDUPDATE's code, and it is closing any opened files in a clean way before calling wget/curl. I compiled a beta testing FDUPDATE v0.55 version, which is able to make use of HTGET as a downloader, hoping that it would resolve the trouble, but got no feedback yet about how it works (or not works). See you, Mateusz VIste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
On Sunday 12 April 2009 07:54 (CEST), Michael Robinson wrote: I'm not certain that I really want to try WordPerfect Suite 8 for Windows 95 on 98se. If you ask me, I am using WordPerfect 6.0 for DOS, which does the job just fine. For old word processors, printer support among other things can be a problem. The printers that are available change over time Probably true, but most (good) printers still supports at least postscript, so usually any postscript printer may be used as a replacement to any old postscript one. and nowadays, network printing is common. Search in the mailing list archive, I gave a solution to do network printer on FreeDOS several months ago. Best regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone know why 386 enhanced mode doesn't work Windows 3.1???
Com1/3 and 2/4 share the same irq. If you want to use them simultaneously, you'll need to change the irq they use. This would make them non-standard, but there are programs that can add com 3-4 to your bios port table area, and thus make them viewable by normal dos apps. I used to have it, but no longer do, although I'm sure a search on google will turn up a copy. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 09:38 +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: On Sunday 12 April 2009 07:54 (CEST), Michael Robinson wrote: I'm not certain that I really want to try WordPerfect Suite 8 for Windows 95 on 98se. If you ask me, I am using WordPerfect 6.0 for DOS, which does the job just fine. Speaking of that, some of my install disks are bad. I have a legal copy, but I am having a hard time finding a way to replace the bad disks. A wares site allows download of WP 5.1, but I really want 6.0. Why doesn't Corel or whoever owns WordPerfect 6.0 Dos release it to the public domain? I think my backup copy of WordPerfect 6.0 dos works, but it's acting weird. I wrote a lot of papers using Wordperfect 6.0 dos, it's a nice piece of software. Getting replacement install disks for it these days though is tough. I think 6.2 is the last dos version of WordPerfect. Surprisingly, I found a lot of sites talking about how to install Wordperfect 6.0 for dos on an XP system. These days, openoffice is my word processor of choice. On a freedos system, that isn't an option. I wish freedos had a free word processor that is comparable to WordPerfect 6.0 for dos. I don't expect freedos 1.1 to have a free word processor, but it would be nice if there was some action to include one eventually. It's illegal to let someone who doesn't own WordPerfect get a copy from you for free, but what if I could download an image of just the 2 or 3 disks that have gone bad? If I'm a liar and I don't have WordPerfect 6.0 dos, I won't get it by downloading 1 or 2 of the install disks. I have Wordperfect Suite 8 on CD, but freedos doesn't have a gui that is compatible with Windows 95. At least not yet. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
This website has a list of wordprocessors including a number that run under dos http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=browsediff=1id=WordProcessors This one, VDE, seems to still have availability http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VDE and this is the file download page http://groups.google.com/group/vde_editor/web/vde-files?pli=1 I have not tried the editor yet. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
Old install floppies. a lot of those old install floppies have propriatary formatting which can make it hard to make a back up while the disks are still good. i have had some success using spinwrite and then using the linux disk duplicator - dd - to make a disk image to store on a cd or the harddrive. later it can be copied back to a floppy. it is my understanding that one can actually mount a disk image that is on a harddrive as a floppy drive under Freedos but someone needs to write up a more detailed set of instructions for me to actually accomplish this. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
Further suggestions on old floppy install disks sometimes the disk is sort of bad - that is some files are bad and others are ok. occassionally if you have a couple of back up sets of the disks you can pull the good files off different disks and combine them. also if there are only a couple of bad files you may be able to get someone to give you the ones you need. that is not piracy, you own a set of the legal install disks after all. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060|EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone know why 386 enhanced mode doesn't work Windows 3.1???
On Sunday 12 April 2009 16:32 (CEST), Adam Norton wrote: Is internet access required for FDUPDATE? Or can the files be on a CD? Hi! The whole idea is to get updates ONLINE... So yes, you have to be networked to let FDUPDATE contact the FreeDOS updates server... If you already have files on a CD, you may simply use FDPK to install them. Best regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] sb pci 128 and novell dos 7.0
Hello, on my system novell dos 7.0 i want to the sb pci 128 soundcard (ensonic 1371). Googling i found some infos and two drivers: The sbinit.com, sbload, sblegacy, sbcfg and for the pci64 apinit.com, apload.exe ... MY config looks like this: DEVICE=C:\treiber\SCSI\ASPI8DOS.SYS /D DEVICE=C:\nwdos\EMM386.EXE MULTI DPMI=Off FRAME=none include=b000-b7ff video DEVICE=C:\NWDOS\DPMS.EXE DEVICE=C:\NWDOS\SETVER.EXE DOS=HIGH,UMB COUNTRY=49,,C:\NWDOS\COUNTRY.SYS DEVICE=C:\treiber\SCSI\ASPICD.SYS /D:ASPICD0 DEVICE=C:\treiber\cdrom\GSCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD000 /v devicehigh = c:\treiber\scsi\sjiix.sys FILES=61 SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:1024 /P BREAK=ON BUFFERS=40 LASTDRIVE = p HISTORY=ON,512,ON My autoexec.bat looks like: @ECHO Off PATH c:\dha;C:\WINDOWS;C:\BAT;C:\NWDOS;C:\WS;C:\DBASE;e:\RECOGN;C:\;D:\MINI;C:\TREIBER\PANEL;C:\JAWS;H:\WORD;C:\COREL\WP62 SET TEMP=c:\TEMP SET NWDOSCFG=C:\NWDOS SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H7 P330 T6 set hal=c:\dha PROMPT $P$G C:\nwdos\shsucDX /C /d:mscd000 /D:ASPICD0 share /l:100 /ml VERIFY OFF KEYB GR+ rem software for screenreader CD \DHA LH HAL -c -DC:\DHA -KLOGO -X93/93 rem software for brailledisplay CD \cb45 combis /C2 combis /u choice /c:jn /t:j,2 combis /C2 cbmenu /b:eurodin cd\ After starting dos i change into c:\sound There i run a batchfile: set BLASTEr=a220 i7 d1 h7 t6 set sbpci=c:\sound sbinit.com sbload The sbinit.com did not come back to the dos-prompt, so that ich must press ctrl-c to break the program. Any ideas what to do? Under linux the soundcard works. Regards. Dietmar -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone know why 386 enhanced mode doesn't work Windows 3.1???
Is internet access required for FDUPDATE? Or can the files be on a CD? - FDUPDATE makes wget downloading the index file from my server correctly, - FDUPDATE open the index file and load the package database correcyly, - It propose an update, basing on what has been found on user's system, - crash when launching wget to download that given package. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] I reply to a message and the author is munged
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Carl Spitzer cw...@myrealbox.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 02:35 +0200, freedos-user-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Hi, What is happening here? I would like to know to whom I am writing but this bounces nonsense address is what comes up? What was the rest of the message that bounces had written? My guess is that there was a (perhaps temporary) problem in delivering your email to the list, and the bounces address was telling you about it. Clearly you're subscribed to freedos-user, though. -jh -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone know why 386 enhanced mode doesn't work Windows 3.1???
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi, Using MS-DOS 6.2x himem.sys and MS-DOS 6.2x emm386.exe, I have Windows 3.1 running on freedos 1. What I wonder is why 386 enhanced mode errs out with incorrect dos version??? I'm using the unstable kernel that came with freedos 1. Is anyone working on it to get it stable? No, but you could say it is stable enough for you ;-) The main problem is that you need to use the WINKERNEL from 1.0 which is the unstable kernel but with those extra experimental 386 enhanced patches activated. You may also have to: Load SHARE, not load EMM386, or use the MS versions of EMM386 and/or HIMEM. The latter two might be tricky to configure right on modern hardware. [...] I disagree with your No, but you could say it is stable enough statement. The kernel needs to work reliably. Today, we have two branches of the FreeDOS kernel: 2036 stable, and 2037 devel (unstable). That shouldn’t be ok, yet somehow we’ve convinced ourselves this is acceptable. Having two versions of the kernel, where the most recent branch is effectively “broken”, is what’s keeping us from moving forward. Is there a developer on the lists here who has an interest in kernel programming? We need someone who is willing to dig into the code and fix the kernel so we finally have a latest version that's more stable. Is it easier to start with 2036 and re-add the features from 2037? Or is it better to fix the broken parts from 2037, to release a (working) 2038 version? I lack the skill to do any kernel development, so I never tried. I’m hoping someone with the necessary energy and enthusiasm can work it out. -jh -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
[..] These days, openoffice is my word processor of choice. On a freedos system, that isn't an option. I wish freedos had a free word processor that is comparable to WordPerfect 6.0 for dos. I don't expect freedos 1.1 to have a free word processor, but it would be nice if there was some action to include one eventually. [..] If you can find a copy of the old shareware Galaxy Write for MS-DOS, this was a good word processor for me. When I was at university, I used Galaxy Write to write my term papers. Not too dissimilar from WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS (granted, not as powerful.) I tried to find a download, but it doesn't seem to be at simtel anymore. Actually, simtel no longer seems to have any MS-DOS downloads these days. Maybe Eric or another webmaster can take simtel off the Links page. If you want to see what Galaxy looked like, I used to have screenshots on my web page. Some kind person has mirrored them for me: http://freedos.gds.tuwien.ac.at/jhall/photos/galaxy/ -jh -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
Jim Hall wrote: [..] These days, openoffice is my word processor of choice. On a freedos system, that isn't an option. I wish freedos had a free word processor that is comparable to WordPerfect 6.0 for dos. I don't expect freedos 1.1 to have a free word processor, but it would be nice if there was some action to include one eventually. [..] If you can find a copy of the old shareware Galaxy Write for MS-DOS, this was a good word processor for me. When I was at university, I used Galaxy Write to write my term papers. Not too dissimilar from WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS (granted, not as powerful.) U. Vaasa has it in their MS-DOS software archive (http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/) http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/editor.html -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What is the trick to get Windows 3.1 to run on freedos???
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Something I noticed, maybe because I'm using the unstable kernel instead of the stable 2036 one, deltree doesn't work anymore. Simple: If you only use WIN /S then you can use the stable 2036 or stable 2038 kernel. The latter is on http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/ as binary snapshot. There are a few pending improvements before 2038 can be put on sourceforge file releases... The sources already are on sourceforge in our svn, of course :-) If there's a stable 2038, then that should get put on ibiblio for general release as soon as possible. If it's on rugxulo's pages, then very few people will know about it (heck, *I* didn't know about it - see my other email.) If you're waiting for further improvements to 2038 before you release 2038, then you're doing this wrong. Release early, release often. Rapid development in F/OSS doesn't happen unless you make releases for people to play with. I'd strongly recommend making 2038 available, and putting the few pending improvements in 2039. -jh -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
Jim Hall wrote: If you can find a copy of the old shareware Galaxy Write for MS-DOS, this was a good word processor for me. When I was at university, I used Galaxy Write to write my term papers. Not too dissimilar from WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS (granted, not as powerful.) On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Paul Makinen pmakinen_20...@yahoo.com wrote: U. Vaasa has it in their MS-DOS software archive (http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/) http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/editor.html Thanks for the link, that was the version I remember. galaxy30.zip 301086 Jun 1 1990 Galaxy v3.0 word processor -jh -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Larry doc...@yahoo.com wrote: pcwrite was a pretty complete shareware word processor that we used successfully in a workplace to write reports. It may still be around either as share or abandoned. --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: From: Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing? To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 12:39 PM [..] These days, openoffice is my word processor of choice. On a freedos system, that isn't an option. I wish freedos had a free word processor that is comparable to WordPerfect 6.0 for dos. I don't expect freedos 1.1 to have a free word processor, but it would be nice if there was some action to include one eventually. [..] If you can find a copy of the old shareware Galaxy Write for MS-DOS, this was a good word processor for me. When I was at university, I used Galaxy Write to write my term papers. Not too dissimilar from WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS (granted, not as powerful.) I tried to find a download, but it doesn't seem to be at simtel anymore. Actually, simtel no longer seems to have any MS-DOS downloads these days. Maybe Eric or another webmaster can take simtel off the Links page. If you want to see what Galaxy looked like, I used to have screenshots on my web page. Some kind person has mirrored them for me: http://freedos.gds.tuwien.ac.at/jhall/photos/galaxy/ -jh -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Word 5.5 for DOS is available for free download from Microsoft... http://download.microsoft.com/download/word97win/Wd55_be/97/WIN98/EN-US/Wd55_ben.exe -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?
-Original Message- From: Michael Robinson [mailto:plu...@robinson-west.com] Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:54 AM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing? ... Openoffice is nice, but you need a lot of computer to run it and you have an option of running it under either Windows XP/Vista/etcetera or Linux. There is abiword, but again same thing. I tried to install abiword to 98se and found that I couldn't. The abandonware site I mentioned before offers Wordperfect 5.1, but I never owned a copy so I'm leery of downloading it. Try eBay. I'll admit that I downloaded Warcraft I, but I don't think Blizzard particularly cares at this point. If freedos had a gui with a nice networking interface that understands Windows networking, I practically wouldn't need Windows 98SE anymore. I'd love a copy of Wordperfect 6.1 for Windows if anyone has an image of the install media that is good. I'd also love a copy of the installation media for Wordperfect 6.0 dos. No, you wouldn't! IME neither 6.x version of WP was worth the media it was distributed on. If you want a DOS version of WP, use 5.1. For a usable windows ver, you need to go to about 8.x D -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Abandonware site...
If you own a computer that had MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 on it at one point, but your install media are fried, try this abandonware site. http://vetusware.com I worry about the legality of downloading from this site, but technically the software they are allowing people to download is unsupported and abandoned. Please do not post links to warez sites or abandonware sites on the FreeDOS lists. I know you shared the link with the best of intentions, but I want to avoid confusing the goal of FreeDOS (creating a free, open source version of DOS that anyone can use) with that of warez (free [as in cost] illegal file sharing.) -jh -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] WAS Abandonware site... = FreePascal 2.2.4 release
Hi All, Talking about software, Freepascal has been released: http://www.freepascal.org/download.var Mateusz/someone, could you make a package for freedos? :) See Ya! Geraldo Sapere Aude Non ducor, duco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 2009/4/12 Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org: If you own a computer that had MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 on it at one point, but your install media are fried, try this abandonware site. http://vetusware.com I worry about the legality of downloading from this site, but technically the software they are allowing people to download is unsupported and abandoned. Please do not post links to warez sites or abandonware sites on the FreeDOS lists. I know you shared the link with the best of intentions, but I want to avoid confusing the goal of FreeDOS (creating a free, open source version of DOS that anyone can use) with that of warez (free [as in cost] illegal file sharing.) -jh -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Abandonware site...
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 20:13 -0500, Jim Hall wrote: If you own a computer that had MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 on it at one point, but your install media are fried, try this abandonware site. http://vetusware.com I worry about the legality of downloading from this site, but technically the software they are allowing people to download is unsupported and abandoned. Please do not post links to warez sites or abandonware sites on the FreeDOS lists. I know you shared the link with the best of intentions, but I want to avoid confusing the goal of FreeDOS (creating a free, open source version of DOS that anyone can use) with that of warez (free [as in cost] illegal file sharing.) -jh Sorry. I did mention that it's a warez site. There is an interesting problem raised with old software. If someone lets me download a proprietary program that I have install disks for which don't work, that isn't illegal. That said, I'd choose a comparable free alternative over a warez copy any day. Sadly, there isn't an OSS alternative that is comparable to WP 6.0 dos yet that I know of. Technically, if the author of a proprietary program doesn't care about it anymore, sharing it isn't a legal problem. After all, someone has to come after you in which case you could offer to pay a reasonable price to continue using the program or give it up. I've downloaded Ms-Dos 6.22 and Windows 3.1 from that Warez site as well as Windows 95 pre registered. I have a 95 upgrade that doesn't work without 3.1 on the shelf, an old packard bell cd that I used to be able to get MS-DOS 6.22 off of and my dad had a fried disk set for upgrading to dos 6.22, and yes there's a copy of Woof woof, actually 2, around. The second copy has failed. I downloaded Warcraft I which I've never purchased a copy of, but I don't think Blizzard cares and if they do I'd be more than happy to either a) pay for it or b) delete it. All this said, I hope the freedos project eventually replaces all of the dos based versions of Microsoft Windows so that noone has to worry about being questioned about copy infringement. IMO, Microsoft should not have a copyright on software it has abandoned that it doesn't support anymore, but it just doesn't work that way. Sadly, the ReactOS project will only replace NT Windows and only for PIII and newer computers. Those of us who are using freedos because we are say on a 486 or older machine are simply out of luck. Ideally, freedos has an OSS alternative for everything. It doesn't yet. There isn't a gui for freedos that's free which can do Windows style networking similar to what you'd expect in Windows 95 for example. Wordperfect 6.0 dos as far as I know is more advanced than any free alternative. This problem goes further. One of the points of freedos after all is having a free and better dos to run old proprietary dos programs. I never owned foxpro for example and I'll bet that turbovision which has been suggested for a new installer for freedos is proprietary. If an old software program that the author doesn't care about is a dos program and there are no free alternatives that are comparable, downloading it is ethical. It is especially ethical if you have fried installation media sitting on the shelf for it. Warez sites get a bad rap, but what about Microsoft for abandoning popular software just to make money and not open sourcing it? I bet people will be handing out XP when it can't be bought anymore along with software to defeat the activation barrier. If there hadn't been a lot of illegal copying of dos programs, I bet dos wouldn't have been as popular as it was. Jim Hall, you are coming down awfully hard on me for mentioning Vetusware and I think you should step back and think long and hard about that. I appropriately mentioned that there might be a legal problem. Microsoft could shut the site down if it wanted to. I'm not a thief. The software they offer on that site isn't making anyone any money anymore. Do you really want to send the message to people that freedos is not to be used to run commercial software? -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] I lost the link to fdupdate 0.55 beta...
That's why I haven't been testing it on my 486 to see if it crashes or not. Since it's meant for freedos 1.1, how do I test it again? BTW: The archives for this list are really hard to search. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
