Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE.SYS
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:59:27 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Hi, Dumb question: Is UIDE.SYS _only_ for native [[motherboard]] controllers? I tried it with two PCI adapter card controllers -- one IDE controller and one SATA controller and UIDE.SYS did not find drives connected to either of the cards. More precisely: UIDE.SYS is only for standard INT13 access. Good news for you, Jack found another potential bug and working on it, it may or may not affect this, but it's good since it means UIDE.SYS become more bullet-proof to the bad BIOS. Rgds, Johnson. -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Question
I haven't tested, but actually *used* these. Several 100's PC's in 20 years ? Hope at least one was from 1990 and also worked :-) How do you know? From your probably buggy 6 PCs? So I should throw them all away and buy 1 or 6 new ones ? With EFI instead of BIOS, so very helpful for DOS USB support ??? These are representative statistics, of course. Link please. Otherwise I'll stay with existing hard facts: - From 6 PC's I tested all 6 failed (2 attempted and failed, 4 didn't even try) - There are 1.6 guys reporting to have it working ;-) -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038
I like this. Why not release it now? Release what ??? Kernel has been released at SF , about 1.1 distro ... IMHO good idea to release :-) -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Question
I haven't tested, but actually *used* these. Several 100's PC's in 20 years ? Hope at least one was from 1990 and also worked :-) Of course PCs from 1990 don't support USB. How do you know? From your probably buggy 6 PCs? So I should throw them all away and buy 1 or 6 new ones ? With EFI instead of BIOS, so very helpful for DOS USB support ??? These are representative statistics, of course. Link please. Otherwise I'll stay with existing hard facts: - From 6 PC's I tested all 6 failed (2 attempted and failed, 4 didn't even try) - There are 1.6 guys reporting to have it working ;-) From what time are your 6 PCs? Any 2004+ mainstream PC I've seen contains a BIOS version which I know supports booting from USB (since I tested these BIOS versions on some PCs). BTW, no 2004+ mainstream PC I've seen (except x86 Macs) contains EFI. Some of the BIOSes require the boot media to be formatted with MBR (as that HP bootable flash format tool creates) but some require super-floppy format instead (no MBR, a single partition). Or exactly: Current DOS versions require this, the BIOS just provides the storage as either Int13 disk *below* 80h (floppy) or *above*(/equal) 80h (hard disk with MBR), and since now I've seen no DOS version to provide any kind of auto-detection, or a manual override to disable/enable the partition table parsing for the boot drive no matter which Int13 unit it is. (Guess to what DOS version I'll add at least the override option ;-D ) Regards, Christian -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Question
From what time are your 6 PCs? distributed over last 15 years Any 2004+ mainstream PC I've seen contains a BIOS version which I know supports booting from USB 2 attempted but didn't work ... no 2004+ mainstream PC I've seen (except x86 Macs) contains EFI. yet ... Some of the BIOSes require the boot media to be formatted with MBR (as that HP bootable flash format tool creates) but some require super-floppy format instead (no MBR, a single partition). Or exactly: Current DOS versions require this, the BIOS just provides the storage as either Int13 disk *below* 80h (floppy) or *above*(/equal) 80h (hard disk with MBR), and since now I've seen no DOS version to provide any kind of auto-detection, or a manual override to disable/enable the partition table parsing for the boot drive no matter which Int13 unit it is This is interesting but I didn't test that thoroughly ... my access to those 2 promising PC's is somewhat limited Guess to what DOS version I'll add at least the override option Great :-) -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 05:21 -0800, dos386 wrote: No it is not and it is rude Try ReactOS forum. How long you will survive there before getting banned, if you are not yet. Have you been banned from the ReactOS forums? Too many people treat it like it's a mere hobby and tempers do flare on those boards, but I've never been banned myself. ReactOS is NOT a project that intends to replace the dos compatible versions of Windows. ReactOS is not the answer if you need to run a Windows 3.x or 9x specific program. development has been to at least support the versions of Windows that ran on top of dos. This violates the GPL. Where specifically does the GPL state that GPL'ed software cannot interact with proprietary software? If that were true, than playing practically any old dos game on Freedos if the game isn't freeware violates the GPL. Indeed if we accept this lie of yours that supporting Windows on top of freedos violates the GPL, then the kernel developers who have been designing the Freedos kernel with Windows 3.x in mind are violating the GPL. -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Fwd: makefiles galore.
-- Forwarded message -- From: kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:09 AM Subject: makefiles galore. To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net First, I'll apologize for not using the 'snippet' approach; I have some mild disabilities and word processing tasks irq me for some strange reason. I will try to be concise; as for potential customer, if something is worth doing, it is worth doing right, for love or money. This comes into play because of the generally poor documentation of many packages, especially those maybe ported fron linux, where I agree the whole 'make' scheme works well, because it was invented there decades ago. Here is a case in point: I took a directory of the GEM distro, moved it into c:\djgpp\bin, and tried 'make'; still gotno makefile present, no target defined., even though the makefile of the GEM directory itself was sitting in the cwd; then I explicitly used ' -f makefile' , and this made make.exe proceed; however, the first time it reached into another make statement inside, the usual no makefile present, no target defined. This means I would have to edit every line in every makefile and 'submakefile', to use the ' -f' switch. When you think about it, this, if feasible, would be more work then trying to do things manually!. Which brings us to the next point: A huge part of the excersise is the merging of libs and includes; so, I tried simply copying the headers from GEM into the include directory of djgpp, and ditto with the libs; I went to examples, got a nice little 'hello world' type of .c file and tried compiling it on the command line. It started to work, but bounced because of missing #includes; Then found a few of the missing ones *scattered* around the GEM distro but *not all of them*; end of compilation. In fact, these dependancies seem to be scattered all over the universe. Finally, I would LOVE to obtain binaries for things, since by definition, everything is there, and it saves me the compilation. However, there are no such binaries for what I was trying to do, which was simply to integrate parts of GEM into djgpp to write *apps* for the GEM GUI, which at the moment, it nedds lots of(in order to be a functional replacement for windows?). Since beginning I have seen some critiques of make(on the web) as to how screwy it can be, even in it's home country,LINUX!. Bottom line? No make for me thank you; if it can't be done with batfiles,etc., or manually, I just won't mess with it.--kurtwb2...@gmail.com. -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] What do you need from Windows world...
I haven't gotten the positive response I had hoped for trying to drum up some interest in a Windows 9x replacement. Some have talked about possibly enhacing HX extender and cloning Windows 3.x first, which makes a lot of sense. Maybe it doesn't make sense to replace dos based Windows. Maybe dos based Windows is dead. So what to do those of us who like some program or need some program that requires a dos based version of Microsoft Windows? None of the versions available are supported by Microsoft and none of the versions are Y2K compliant. There is an open source service pack for Windows 98 SE, but it doesn't fix everything that's wrong. One answer to the what to do question is to have people start to list what they lose that they want if they don't have a dos compatible Windows environment. I am talking Windows 3.x and Windows9x/ME. One thing you lose if you have to use Windows XP is the ability to run smoothly on older computer hardware. I am talking 500mhz and below. Also, some programs just won't work in an NT based environment. Some will say, just get NT versions of whatever you want. Great, but that rules out a lot of computers and there is no free NT option right now. There is WINE, but that only gets you so far. Well, that list could be useful as the programs people want from Windows land may be replaceable with equivalent ones that run on top of say opengem. For instance, how hard would it be using opengem as a starting point to support abiword or openoffice? How about firefox? You can get the latter three programs for Linux, but maybe you can't run Linux because you have a lot of dos software or an older computer. Yes you can run freedos under dosemu or vmware, if your computer is fast enough and you really want to. Thing is, maybe your games or whatever you use won't work so well under emulation. I run freedos natively. I have given up on trying to run it under vmware. Sometimes, I use dosbox under Linux. Nothing allows me to run command and conquer red alert I under Linux. So, let me start the what do you lose list: Command and Conquer Red Alert Windows 95 edition by Westwood Associates Internet Exporer 5 and earlier, maybe 6. Microsoft Office for Windows 9x. Blake Stone Aliens of Gold requires the MS-DOS 6.22 or the Windows 9x version. It can run on top of Windows 9x. Wolfenstein 3D has the same problem because it's probably based on the same underlying engine. It starts under Freedos, but none of the keys work. Warcraft II Battle Net edition requires Windows 95 or higher. Under NT, it becomes clear that it isn't designed for it when you have to become Administrator to get it to run. Diablo II requires Windows 9x or higher, but it's not designed for NT either also having the Administrator issue. ...Insert other programs that need Windows 9x or Windows 3.x to work... -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
