[Freedos-user] Use of MSDOS on XP Computer
I use Quick Basic for many of my scientific programs. Quick Basic is on a MSDOS system which I have on a computer using Windows 98. Would it be possible to transfer my DOS program to a computer using Windows XP? Melvin M. Friedlander mail...@verizon.net (951) 301-4152 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Use of MSDOS on XP Computer
On Thursday 27 August 2009 20:20 (CEST), MELVIN FRIEDLANDER wrote: I use Quick Basic for many of my scientific programs. Quick Basic is on a MSDOS system which I have on a computer using Windows 98. Would it be possible to transfer my DOS program to a computer using Windows XP? Hi, As far as I know, QuickBasic run just fine on Windows XP... However, you could also check out the FreeBASIC compiler. FreeBASIC is very similar to QuickBasic (but *much* more powerful), and allows to compile programs for DOS, Windows (XP, Vista, etc) and Linux. Best regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Driver development
Hello; I have an Atheros pci-x 802.11 wireless card in my Asus EEEpc laptop and there is no driver available for the card! Does anyone have some links and resources pertaining to driver/packet driver development for DOS? I'm not looking for a quick fix, but a project! -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Use of MSDOS on XP Computer
Yes, indeed, Qbasic runs nicely on Windows XP. It can also be run very well in Dosbox or Dosemu under Linux. Alex Phone number: 004-0364412643 Mobile phone number: 004-0770607699 Messenger ID: firaalexandru Skype ID: alexfiracluj -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Driver development
Hi Bray, I have an Atheros pci-x 802.11 wireless card in my Asus EEEpc laptop and there is no driver available for the card! Does anyone have some links and resources pertaining to driver/packet driver development for DOS? I'm not looking for a quick fix, but a project! Expect a big project here... You can see many examples of open source DOS network card packet drivers on the CRYNWR homepage: www.crynwr.com/drivers/ Atheros.com says they actively support the Linux driver: http://madwifi-project.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Chipsets There are actually THREE variants of the driver: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/About/ath5k ...and a third based on a non-portable binary blob The drivers will depend on Linux infrastructure so you will probably have to add many other bits and pieces. You can probably get an easier start by only porting their info tool first: http://madwifi-project.org/browser/ath_info/trunk A good compiler for porting Linux stuff to DOS is DJGPP: www.delorie.com/djgpp/ Of course with Wireless things are usually much worse than with normal network cards, because you will have to have some software which takes care of setting up wireless connection details. In many networks, you will also need something which does WEP, WPA or WPA2 security. But of course I understand that you do not want to carry a cable which is heavier than your tiny netbook laptop :-) Eric PS: Maybe you can also check whether the EEE PC supports int 15.87 and if not whether some HIMEMX / JEMM386 combo or similar could be used to make FDAPM ACPIDUMP work ;-) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] XST Basic
Hi everybody, Angelo Rosina writes about a BASIC for DOS, forwarding some info from him :-) Should we add XST to our freedos.org software collection and/or the distro? :-) Eric Since XST is compiled with DJGPP, it's hardware requirements are almost the same of FreeBasic FreeBasic (FB) and XST Basic are different products, with different targets. FB is a true compiler; XST is an interpreter + a C emitter (it cannot directly compile, but can convert the source into a C code that can be compiled) FB has a QB compatible mode; XST is more based on AMOS and STOS Basic (for Amiga and Atari ST) FB is a generic, all-purposes language; XST is focused on multimedia and game development (even a very good Doom clone is available in demos) FB can be extended with external libraries; XST already has graphic, sprites, 3D and sound support. FB can only compile, you have to use an external editor (i.e. RHIDE); XST has its own IDE, where you can write and instantly run your program. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. The XST Basic, written by Rodney Mc Connell, is now open source. Source code is at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xstbasic/ Original site was at: http://www.geocities.com/snakessoft/vault.html -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Driver development
http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/802.11.html [QUOTE] Expect a big project here... [/QUOTE] With over 1200 pages of IEEE standards information, I'm not suprised! [QUOTE] PS: Maybe you can also check whether the EEE PC supports int 15.87 and if not whether some HIMEMX / JEMM386 combo or similar could be used to make FDAPM ACPIDUMP work ;-) [/QUOTE] Sure, do you have a template written in C for testing interrupts? That or ASM, I can read both of them! [QUOTE] You can see many examples of open source DOS network card packet drivers on the CRYNWR homepage [/QUOTE] http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html This seems to be a specification for interrogating any of those drivers. It may help! I have a dedicated FDOS box at home with a 3COM 3C905CX, I think... I'll check when I get home. Perhaps some experiments with this card will also help...? Do you have any recommendations? I'm more than willing to undertake what may seem a daunting project. I need something to do which keeps me occupied for those cold Fall and Winter nights. Plus, I just picked up my amateur radio license, and this seems like a good, rewarding and education project as far as that realm of technology is concerned. 73! Bray. - Original Message - From: Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de To: b...@vom.com; freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Driver development Hi Bray, I have an Atheros pci-x 802.11 wireless card in my Asus EEEpc laptop and there is no driver available for the card! Does anyone have some links and resources pertaining to driver/packet driver development for DOS? I'm not looking for a quick fix, but a project! Expect a big project here... You can see many examples of open source DOS network card packet drivers on the CRYNWR homepage: www.crynwr.com/drivers/ Atheros.com says they actively support the Linux driver: http://madwifi-project.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Chipsets There are actually THREE variants of the driver: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/About/ath5k ...and a third based on a non-portable binary blob The drivers will depend on Linux infrastructure so you will probably have to add many other bits and pieces. You can probably get an easier start by only porting their info tool first: http://madwifi-project.org/browser/ath_info/trunk A good compiler for porting Linux stuff to DOS is DJGPP: www.delorie.com/djgpp/ Of course with Wireless things are usually much worse than with normal network cards, because you will have to have some software which takes care of setting up wireless connection details. In many networks, you will also need something which does WEP, WPA or WPA2 security. But of course I understand that you do not want to carry a cable which is heavier than your tiny netbook laptop :-) Eric PS: Maybe you can also check whether the EEE PC supports int 15.87 and if not whether some HIMEMX / JEMM386 combo or similar could be used to make FDAPM ACPIDUMP work ;-) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 302, Issue 1
Hello Mateusz and Alex, Thank you both for your very quick response on the question of using QBasic on my XP. However, I am somewhat computer ignorant and need to know the specifics on how this can be done. What do I download or buy or get through my email or phone? Mel Melvin M. Friedlander mail...@verizon.net (951) 301-4152 - Original Message - From: freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Freedos-user Digest, Vol 302, Issue 1 Send Freedos-user mailing list submissions to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net You can reach the person managing the list at freedos-user-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Freedos-user digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Fwd: Full Screen Sized Screen-Dumps] (Robert J. Thompson) 2. Driver Problems (ron3090) 3. Re: Driver Problems (pcdos2k) 4. Use of MSDOS on XP Computer (MELVIN FRIEDLANDER) 5. Re: Use of MSDOS on XP Computer (Mateusz Viste) 6. Driver development (b...@vom.com) 7. Re: Use of MSDOS on XP Computer (Alexandru Fira) 8. Re: Driver development (Eric Auer) 9. XST Basic (Eric Auer) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:18:54 -0600 From: Robert J. Thompson the_drb...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] [Fwd: Full Screen Sized Screen-Dumps] To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 4a9598ae.1020...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Eric Auer wrote: Hi Robert, to find my GRAPHICS for DOS, check our list: http://www.freedos.org/freedos/software/ - base - graphics Maybe I should have mentioned the names graphpin, graph-hp and graph-ps, as graphics is just a wrapper for the tree :-) Eric: Found the '.dosemurc' file as '/etc/.dosemu/dosemu.conf'. Am working on that now. Thanks - Bob T. -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:38:14 -0700 (PDT) From: ron3090 onua...@gmail.com Subject: [Freedos-user] Driver Problems To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 25163496.p...@talk.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have an old Dell Latitude CPi A Laptop that has Puppy and FreeDOS installed on it. Puppy works fine, sound and full video. But FreeDOS has problems. First, there is no sound, which I've heard is common. According to the Dell website, the sound controller is a NeoMagic 2200 AC97 Codec which is of the type Sound Blaster Emulation. Yet the sound doesn't work. I don't know the first thing about FreeDOS, other than how to navigate to my games. How do I get sound working? Second, but not as important, is that the video does not fill up the whole screen. Once again, I'm assuming this has something to do with the drivers. It is a NeoMagic 2200. Lastly, I'd like to be able to use my USB drive with FreeDOS. I installed DosUSB, and the drive lights up after I run the program. How do I access the drive? Hoping for an answer, ron3090 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Driver-Problems-tp25163496p25163496.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:49:27 -0700 (PDT) From: pcdos2k pcdo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Driver Problems To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 741970.78470...@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- On Wed, 8/26/09, ron3090 onua...@gmail.com wrote: According to the Dell website, the sound controller is a NeoMagic 2200 AC97 Codec which is of the type Sound Blaster Emulation. Yet the sound doesn't work. I don't know the first thing about FreeDOS, other than how to navigate to my games. How do I get sound working? try this generic SB audio enabler: http://www.multimediaware.com/qv/sbdetect.zip or this ac97 dos driver by via (viafmstr): http://schneegans.de/computer/dos-soundtreiber/ -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:20:58 -0700 From: MELVIN FRIEDLANDER mail...@verizon.net Subject: [Freedos-user] Use of MSDOS on XP Computer To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 084e638743c74d33b75557b31222f...@d11wdb71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I use Quick Basic for many of my scientific programs. Quick Basic is on a MSDOS system which I have on a computer using Windows 98. Would it be possible to transfer my DOS program to a computer using Windows XP? Melvin M. Friedlander mail...@verizon.net (951) 301-4152 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 302, Issue 1
Just copy the qbasic.exe interpreter anywhere in your Windows XP computer, for example on the desktop. For running it just double click on qbasic.exe and off it goes. Windows XP has NTVDM (New Technology Virtual DOS Machine) that can run a lot of DOS programs, including Qbasic. There is no need to download or buy anything. It is easy and simple. When you program and you save some .bas files these are saved in the folder where Qbasic is. For example, if Qbasic sits on the desktop, the .bas files will be saved on the desktop. If you copy it to another folder, it will save the .bas files into that folder. It is good to set your OS so that when you double click on a .bas file it is opened with Qbasic, in case you have some folders with qbasic programs scattered around, so as to be easier to open them. But I used to have several copies of Qbasic in my PC. Alex Phone number: 004-0364412643 Mobile phone number: 004-0770607699 Messenger ID: firaalexandru Skype ID: alexfiracluj -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Disk checking and defragmentation
Hi Eric, Christian and Geraldo, Thanks for your interest. Here is what I have observed about CHKDSK, DOSFSCK and DEFRAG. As I'm writing from memory, this is not very accurate. In the future I'll take notes in order to report more reliably. After several crashes in my early days with FreeDOS two years ago, I have learned to prevent most of them. One exception is DOSLFN, which I occasionally used in combination with the file managers NDN or File Wizard to decompress files with InfoZip. Whenever DOSLFN was used, CHKDSK would find dozens or even hundreds of damaged files. In addition, strange folders or files appeared which could not be deleted. To get rid of them I had to copy the usable files to a second hard disk and reformat the first. This happened three or four times, in two different computers. Don't worry about DOSLFN -- I hardly ever need it. The only reason I mentioned it is because it was involved in disk damage which CHKDSK and DOSFSCK tried to repair. To do disk ckecking I now use DOSFSCK, which in my experience is safer than CHKDSK. My impression was that, in attempting to correct damage (such as that caused by DOSLFN), CHKDSK actually made matters worse. DOSFSCK seemed to do the same, but to a lesser extent. In those cases, both programs would report on the screen huge amounts (hundreds or perhaps thousands) of file names which were supposedly being fixed. If there were indeed so many damaged files before checking the disk, I would probably have noticed them by just using the computer. I still experience file damage or loss occasionally, but have no idea what is causing it. One instance happened a few months ago when I ran DOSFSCK and then DEFRAG. I noticed that DOSFSCK took an unusually long time -- about 15 min instead of the usual 2 min -- to scan the disk. I do not remember whether DEFRAG ran or crashed, but the end result was a messed up hard drive. Some files were lost, others were truncated to a multiple of 16384 bytes, and still others had bytes appended to them making their size also a multiple of 16384. Hundreds of files were lost or damaged, and had to be recovered from backups. I downloaded DEFRAG version 1.32 last June but it does not run at all in my computer. It either issues a Get fixed file failed message or simply freezes, depending on the hard drive to be defragmented. This happens both with the full-screen interface and the command line version. The previous version of DEFRAG worked only in the command line version; the full-screen interface would give an error message undefined error or something similar. One possibility, of course, is that I'm doing something wrong. I'm quite good at following instructions, but in some cases the manual seems to be too brief, perhaps because it assumes that the reader is familiar with, say, similar programs in Linux. For instance, I have not been able to understand how to use the DOSFSCK with the -V perform a verification pass option. The logic behind it is clear: let's have a look at things before changing them. But when the program runs, it just writes: dosfsck 2.11.DOS3, 8 Aug 2007, FAT32, LFN Starting check/repair pass. Starting verification pass. c:: 33412 files, 42820/65505 clusters That confused me. Does it mean the disk is OK? Is there anything else to be done? To first-time users it may not be obvious what is supposed to happen when a program runs. Most of the instructions in FreeDOS are good, but some of them could be a bit more explicit. Examples of frequently used command lines are always welcome too. In a way, instructions are a form of software too, which runs in our minds, and perhaps they also need testing and debugging :-) Included below is some information about the hardware of my main computer. And here is a summary of the above comments. DEFRAG Current version does not work in my computers; previous version worked only in command line option. CHKDSK Occasionally seems to make matters worse. DOSFSCK Apparently safer than CHKDSK, but not completely. Let me repeat that all the above are just 'remembrances of things past'. I hope to contribute more accurately in the future. Regards and thanks, Marcos Florence Sao Paulo, Brazil -- Navrátil Software System Information Version 0.60.32 Report File Thursday, 2009-08-27 23:40 ===General Information Computer PC-AT or compatible, ISA + PCI Processor Intel Pentium, 100 MHz, Real mode, 2/5/28/18 Co-Processor Internal, 100 MHz, 3/3/100/28 BIOS AMI, American Megatrends, Inc., PnP, 07/15/95 Video Trident SVGA 4 MB, VESA VBE 2.0, Secondary: None Memory 32 MB, 639 KB, 31744 KB, no XMS, no EMS Drives
