Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS
-Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:alxm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 3:48 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote: El 06/04/2012 01:25 p.m., Eric Auer escribió: Hi! Can someone please tell me what are the best GUIs available for FreeDOS? Naturally, this is a double question, since GUIs fall into two categories: 1) Text-mode GUIs 2) Graphical GUIs So, which GUI(s) would you recommend for each category? Maybe unrelated but: File Maven is a freeware text-mode GUI file manager which has a sort of laplink clone built in. And the Arachne web browser has some aspects of a graphical GUI. The most comprehensive GUIs are probably Windows (3.0, 3.1 or Windows for Workgroups 3.11, all non-free, 3.x standard mode works okay, WfW and 386enh mode can be hard, too much RAM as well) and GEM. There is a free GEM distro by Shane, see also: http://sourceforge.net/projects/opengem/files/ http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/mix_entry.php?id=8126 Unfortunately, the more complete ShaneLand GEM website in UK is down. Shane can now be reached at Opendawn, Japan, I hope. Eric :-) -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user On my taste Norton Commander (or any of their clones) is the best text mode GUI. I think File Maven uses the same double panel. The are a lot of NC clones, some are updated for long file name support -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Actually, what I had in mind when I asked about GUIs was just GUIs themselves, not application using them. But it was nice to see Norton Commander being brought up in the discussion! This brings up sweet memories. The starting point of my exploration on DOS-based GUIs was: http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php ?n=Main.GallDosGui With Google you can find several other webpages about GUIs for DOS. My interest, at this point, is mostly in the windowing system, not in the applications that often come bundled with those packages. I am looking for a nice GUI simply as a development tool, not as a ready-made working environment. It seems that there is a number of GUIs available for FreeDOS, in addition to OpenGEM. But I was not able to find much comparative info about those GUIs. Any idea why OpenGEM is the only GUI environment listed on the FreeDOS website under the category GUIs? To be fair, I must say that if you look hard withing the website you do find the reference to other GUIs, such as the Icon GUI. So why OpenGEM is the only one in the spotlight? Please share your experiences with regard to DOS-based GUIs as development tools. It sounds like you're referring more to an IDE than a GUI. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?
Op 8-4-2012 8:17, Michael Robinson schreef: Actually, I wish someone would release a Windows 3.1 driver that can get my ATI Rage 128, XPERT 2000, card to output 256 colors. For that matter, how hard would it be to make a Windows like graphical user interface that can run Windows 3.1 software? There should be some unofficial svga patch for windows 3.1 / 3.1.1 , but it had several limitations. What might make sense is being able to dedicate one core in a multi core 64 bit computer to running freedos via say a hypervisor. A hypervisor is a simplified OS where it's sole purpose to exist is to create a virtual hardware environment for other OS'es. Despite a lot of hardware being capable of it, it's still not simple to setup Citrix Xen or VMware ESXi. Linux-KVM (or QEMU-KVM, whatever) is also not simple, nor vga-passthrough. Dosbox seems to run on any modern computer at this point. Syllable is very interesting from the standpoint of being simple, but the project needs more help. Any tiny operating system that QEMU can run on top of, would be interesting. I'd consider Dosbox a bit too limited. I think the number one source of complexity today in operating systems is that companies which produce computer hardware are Microsoft Windows NT centric. In other words, they develop for a proprietary OS and keep their mouths shut about how their product is actually laid out. Linux gets a bad rap because many modern graphics cards don't work 100%, especially AMD video cards. If there was enough competition like there used to be and people were more aggressive about using open source OSes, companies wouldn't be able to survive keeping their mouths shut and focusing on NT only. AMD and NVIDIA do release Linux drivers, but they are always deficient which I think is on purpose. Things are being kept vague on purpose it seems, nobody considers interesting aspects. For example, my current motherboard inits USB ports (1.1 and 2.0) at 1.1-speeds till an operating system driver is loaded. With recent hardware releases, I'm interested in a new board that can boot (DOS/Windows/Linux) from USB 3.0 (in BIOS-mode, not UEFI-only mode), at 3.0-speeds outside operating systems. I can check motherboard manuals all I want, but no info whatsoever. Same for FireWire booting (which nobody bothered with except Apple). As for graphics Linux drivers, there's manpower to be considered as well as how economical it is to set people to them, thus inherently flawed. At the opensource side there's patents and intellectual properties to consider before transferring features from binary drivers to opensource drivers. If you want to be able to run Windows software, help the ReactOS people. ReactOS has a long ways to go where I think significantly more help would improve the outlook of people who have been working on the project a long time and overall increase productivity. Testing ReactOS is helping. Say you reverse engineer a piece of modern ATI/AMD hardware that a lot of people have which doesn't even work well in Linux. As despicable as Windows 8 appears to be with its interface, I might still get it for the following features: * Native USB3.0 support (hence wanting usb3-booting system) * Windows-To-Go (Windows installed/usable on 32GB+ USB Flash Device) * Able to run Windows software properly. Linux has a bit more issues with that last point, the earlier 2 are already possible. Main desktop might stay Win7 or convert to Linux, who knows :) As for ReactOS I'd hope someone's willing to integrate a Ramdisk-driver with MEMDISK (or GRUB) detection so LiveCD and installCD can be booted from file instead of CDROM. It would create independence from UniATA and troublesome IDE/SATA/AHCI controllers as well. PartedMagic Linux-distro has done this already. FreeDOS also, in a few specific ways. Something I've been mulling over is putting together a company that only produces standards compliant computer hardware where the standards are open ones that are readily available to everyone. It would be a big jump though to go from a B.S. in computer science to a company producing computer hardware that is both cutting edge and OSS compatible. What would the business model for such a company be? You'd be nicely off acting as a Coreboot consultant, implementing it on actual hardware. Asrock E350 motherboard is supported, have fun creating a fully opensource machine. QEMU might be a good way to practice first though. Selling self-made ZFS-boxes (as NAS) might also be something nice, or passive Linux-based HTPCs. Consultancy and support seem to be a few ways to make a living from opensource software. Selling opensource systems might become hard, the Raspberry Pi is around as a nice cheap experiment for people. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...
Op 8-4-2012 19:44, Michael B. Brutman schreef: Some of us figured out that on ancient hardware (8088, 80286, etc.) the decompression process takes a long time. If you are running in a virtual machine and your underlying hardware/operating system does not fully support virtualization then you are emulating the machine instruction by instruction, and that can take forever too. Yeah Jim Hall insisted on combining source and binary into a single package so I've done that. The advantage is GPL-requirements are easier met this way, disadvantage is unpacking takes longer. Unpacking on a system without XMS-driver loaded from CONFIG.SYS is a nightmare, caused by a lack of memory. As FreeCOM can't relocate itself once XMS is available, we're in trouble and UNZIP gets very small decompression buffers. I've seen this happen with TDSK also taking 100KB low memory. My 2009 vintage Intel quad-core supports virtualzation well so I have very little instruction emulation. But a user with a newer Atom tried it and noticed the horrible slowdown. Apparently the Atom isn't fully capable of virtualization so QEMU was resorting to emulating each instruction, and that is very slow. I think I mentioned somewhere FreeDOS installer unpacking everything in 28 seconds, but that was with C: a RAMDISK and the FreeDOS CD contents also in ramdisk, using SHSUCDRI. That's real hardware, I still have to test in virtual machines and make things more robust. Bernd -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS lists messages
Op 9-4-2012 1:46, jasse...@itelefonica.com.br schreef: 1) there is not any useable .pdf viewer nor editor muPDF was ported a while ago, listed on BTTR forums somewhere. Still not experimented with it, nor anything else announced there. My usual experiments involve VMware but graphics modes isn't its forte. 3) there is no javascript enabled browser, and the only one that supports https/ssl is Lynx. I'm not sure of DILLO's capabilities. 4) Neither there is any CAD program that allows viewing or editing a .dxf file. These are just examples that came to me now. No idea what a dxf file would be, guess there's always ancient AutoCAD. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Best GUIs for DOS
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:22 PM, David C. Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: It sounds like you're referring more to an IDE than a GUI. Actually, no. What I meant was a GUI proper. The reason why I mentioned OpenGEM (which, of course, is much more than a GUI), is that it is listed under the GUI section of the Software List, on the FreeDOS website. What I was looking for was a pure and simple GUI, without applications, to be used in creating applications. Not much luck so far, as most GUI project seem to be half-backed or discontinued. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?
Bernd Blaauw wrote: Actually, I wish someone would release a Windows 3.1 driver that can get my ATI Rage 128, XPERT 2000, card to output 256 colors. For that matter, how hard would it be to make a Windows like graphical user interface that can run Windows 3.1 software? There should be some unofficial svga patch for windows 3.1 / 3.1.1 , but it had several limitations. SVGAPatch is available from http://www.japheth.de/dwnload1.html Maybe it helps. Robert Riebisch -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: http://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead: http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/ -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
Okay, Thanks everyone! I filled in the my_ip section with my ip (according to dhcp.exe), but Arachne still points me to the Roadrunner search, saying Why Am I Here? - You entered a web address that was used to present site suggestions I tried a lot of things, one of which was filing in mtcp (which I did successfully and when I ping a web address or other computers connected to our router, it comes back positive), but nothing really worked. I know that our internet works on our other comps because I'm browsing right now on our mac. Also, Arachne is clearly connected because it brings up the home page, which it couldn't do before I set it up right. I also have to add (since I didn't really in the first place): I'm pretty new to DOS, so I don't know all the DOS-talk terms and whatnot. I do know how to effectively do a lot of things, but not as much as most of you experienced users and such. --- A FreeDOS User (The one that started this post, just for the sake of reference) On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. I tried to edit the wattcp.cfg file, like so: my_ip = dhcp netmask = 255.255.255.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1 domain_list = www.rr.com I had to use our mac to find out our router ip (it was under dhcp as router). I put the ip under the gateway section, which I don't know was correct. Anyway, it didn't really work, so I'm at a loss of what to do next. Arachne is at least able to connect, so I did something right. Also, what does the mtcp.cfg file do? I know it has to do with ping and other such things, but how do I use it? And how did it look originally (I accidently did something and it made the file blank)? Any help on any of these questions would be wonderful. Thanks! --- A FreeDOS User P.S.- Please don't use any info I gave you to hack me or something like that. I'm doing this on the honour system. Thanks! Again! -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] mTCP: Telnet, TCP, etc.
Hey, I'm going to just not beat around the bush. I'll and ask it straight out. What the heck are Telnet, TCP and all those other programs that comes with mTCP for? --- A FreeDOS Newser (NEW uSER) -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP: Telnet, TCP, etc.
Hi, On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'm going to just not beat around the bush. I'll and ask it straight out. What the heck are Telnet, TCP and all those other programs that comes with mTCP for? You can use Telnet to do certain things like play a roguelike online. See http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto for telnet servers for Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
FreeDOS user, Make sure that the NAMESERVER parameter is filled in your WATTCP file. This parameter should come back from the MTCP DHCP program and is probably going to be the same as your router IP address. For fun you can try the IP address 8.8.8.8 as the NAMESERVER if you are unsure on what to do here. Alternatively just try accessing 8.8.8.8 in Arachne itself, just that specific IP and see what happens. -Original Message- From: Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com To: FreeDOS User freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:06 pm Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles Okay, Thanks everyone! I filled in the my_ip section with my ip (according to dhcp.exe), but Arachne still points me to the Roadrunner search, saying Why Am I Here? - You entered a web address that was used to present site suggestions I tried a lot of things, one of which was filing in mtcp (which I did successfully and when I ping a web address or other computers connected to our router, it comes back positive), but nothing really worked. I know that our internet works on our other comps because I'm browsing right now on our mac. Also, Arachne is clearly connected because it brings up the home page, which it couldn't do before I set it up right. I also have to add (since I didn't really in the first place): I'm pretty new to DOS, so I don't know all the DOS-talk terms and whatnot. I do know how to effectively do a lot of things, but not as much as most of you experienced users and such. --- A FreeDOS User (The one that started this post, just for the sake of reference) On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. I tried to edit the wattcp.cfg file, like so: my_ip = dhcp netmask = 255.255.255.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1 domain_list = www.rr.com I had to use our mac to find out our router ip (it was under dhcp as router). I put the ip under the gateway section, which I don't know was correct. Anyway, it didn't really work, so I'm at a loss of what to do next. Arachne is at least able to connect, so I did something right. Also, what does the mtcp.cfg file do? I know it has to do with ping and other such things, but how do I use it? And how did it look originally (I accidently did something and it made the file blank)? Any help on any of these questions would be wonderful. Thanks! --- A FreeDOS User P.S.- Please don't use any info I gave you to hack me or something like that. I'm doing this on the honour system. Thanks! Again! -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP: Telnet, TCP, etc.
At 01:12 PM 4/9/2012, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'm going to just not beat around the bush. I'll and ask it straight out. What the heck are Telnet, TCP and all those other programs that comes with mTCP for? You can use Telnet to do certain things like play a roguelike online. See http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto for telnet servers for Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. well, just to be clear, telnet is not anything related specifically to online games, but it is a tool to get shell (command line) access to a remote server... beside that, Michael (the mTCP author) lists the basic general purpose on his mTCP web site (http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/) Ralf -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
At 01:05 PM 4/9/2012, Kenny Emond wrote: Okay, Thanks everyone! I filled in the my_ip section with my ip (according to dhcp.exe), but Arachne still points me to the Roadrunner search, saying Why Am I Here? - You entered a web address that was used to present site suggestions I tried a lot of things, one of which was filing in mtcp (which I did successfully and when I ping a web address or other computers connected to our router, it comes back positive), but nothing really worked. I know that our internet works on our other comps because I'm browsing right now on our mac. Also, Arachne is clearly connected because it brings up the home page, which it couldn't do before I set it up right. I also have to add (since I didn't really in the first place): I'm pretty new to DOS, so I don't know all the DOS-talk terms and whatnot. I do know how to effectively do a lot of things, but not as much as most of you experienced users and such. As I mentioned before, you end up on this Roadrunner page when you do not have a proper DNS server set on you host. That is in general not something DOS specific, that is something you need to have on every OS unless you want to access remote servers by their IP address only. If Arachne brings up the (which) homepage, it could be that there is an Arachne specific setting for the primary DNS... Ralf -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Concerned about a site...
There is a site that is putting out a bootable CD that allows you to reset NT passwords. Problem I see is, the OS used is freedos and the disc costs $34.95 to activate. I don't think they are charging for freedos, but there is a free Linux based password reset available if you google some more. http://www.password-reset.com/ Is the way freedos is being used here legal, or have I discovered an abuse? This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Concerned about a site...
Op 9-4-2012 22:55, someone schreef: There is a site that is putting out a bootable CD that allows you to reset NT passwords. Problem I see is, the OS used is freedos and the disc costs $34.95 to activate. I don't think they are charging for freedos, but there is a free Linux based password reset available if you google some more. http://www.password-reset.com/ Is the way freedos is being used here legal, or have I discovered an abuse? Perfectly legal, though they're required to provide sourcecode for all GPL components to clients on request. Motherboard vendors often also have a driver CD with FreeDOS included. It tends to be for doing DOS-based system firmware updates. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Concerned about a site...
Problem I see is, the OS used is freedos and the disc costs $34.95 to activate. [...] Is the way freedos is being used here legal, or have I discovered an abuse? If they provide all required sources (ie of GPL- or similarly-licensed programs) along with their discs, it is legal. Free software can be sold legally. regards, CM -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
FWIW, I had problems with my computers also. The original DSL modem I had (provided by the phone company) worked fine, but it eventually went belly up. I bought a new one (made by ActionTec), but for some unknown reason DOS WATTCP doesn't like the DHCP server provided by the new modem. In Windows, everything works fine. I was never able to figure out why WATTCP doesn't like the DHCP server, but managed to work around the issue by using static IP's. BTW, static IP's are also very useful sometimes even in Windows for things like network printers, because print driver software often expects the IP address of a printer to never change. If you add or remove devices from the network every once in awhile, or don't turn your network-attached printers on for days or weeks at a time, the IP addresses can change, and Windows may not be able to find the printer any more. Very annoying. I don't know if this will fix your particular problem or not, but here's what I did. First of all, I got into the DSL modem DHCP configuration to set up a range of static IP addresses I could use. In the DHCP configuration, I set up the range of DHCP assigned addresses to 192.168.1.240 - .254. This lets me use 192.168.0.1 - .239 for static IP's for DOS, printers, and other situations where a static IP is preferable to DHCP. Obviously, I need to keep track of what static IP is assigned to what so I don't end up having conflicts. Then, in WATTCP.CFG (for my main computer) I have the following: my_ip=192.168.0.2 host_name=Bret_Desktop netmask=255.255.255.0 nameserver=8.8.8.8 nameserver=8.8.4.4 gateway=192.168.0.1 domain.suffix=domain.bretnet.com I have similar things in my WATTCP.CFG for the other computers also, with the my_ip and host_name changed as appropriate. This fixed the problems with both Arachne and Dillo. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Arachne-Troubles-tp33653764p33657954.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Concerned about a site...
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM, someone plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Is the way freedos is being used here legal, or have I discovered an abuse? Perfectly legal. All the GPL requires folks using GPLed software to do is provide the sources for the software upon request. There is nothing that says they can't *charge* for it. What you are paying for here is the solution offered, and the time, expertise, and labor required to put it together and provide it. You might be able to do the same thing yourself, but it would take you a fair bit of time and trouble to learn how and collect and setup the needed parts. (And you might not have the time: you may need the fix *now*.) What value do you place on your own time? I value mine highly enough I might well pay for something like this. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP: Telnet, TCP, etc.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to just not beat around the bush. I'll and ask it straight out. What the heck are Telnet, TCP and all those other programs that comes with mTCP for? Internet connectivity is done through TCP-IP, a protocol suite. In essence, data sent over the internet is broken up into packets. Each packet has a header that indicates the source of the packet, the intended destination, and the total number of packets included in the particular communication. TCP-IP was originally developed as part of research done by DARPA (the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) for a network that could continue to operate even if segments were damaged. So there is no inherent route packets will take to a destination, nor any requirement that all packets take the *same* route. It's the responsibility of the routers along the way to determine best route to use. The idea is that if a node is damaged, packets can take an alternate route to the destination. There is also no requirement that packets arrive in a particular order. Each packet carries an indicator of which one it is, and the receiving system is expected to put packets in the correct order for whatever will deal with them before passing them along. TCP-IP is considered a protocol suite because it includes a number of different protocols. All use packets, but the nature and purpose of the packets will vary. TCP-IP uses the concept of logical ports to specify the nature and functions. There are 65,536 possible ports, of which the first 1,024 are well known ports whose usage has been standardized. For instance, an ICMP packet is sent to port 8. This is the ping - an inquiry as to whether there is a system at the specified destination awake and answering traffic. If there is one, it's expected to acknowledge the ping with a response. HTTP traffic is sent to port 80 at the destination, and sending it to that port indicates it *is* http traffic. Telnet is used to establish a connection as a terminal to a remote system. If the remote system supports it, and you are an authorized user, you can open a command line session to the remote host and use whatever the host provides as a shell, as though you were connecting through a directly attached terminal. (On a Linux system, this will usually be the bash shell, but does not have to be.) For more secure connections, a popular variant is ssh, which creates an encrypted communications session with the other end. By default, telnet uses port 23 and ssh uses port 22, but these are not requirements: it's possible to use any port numbers, as long as both sender and receiver are configured to do so. I've made use of telnet and ssh as a sysadmin dealing with servers, using telnet locally (I was connected to the company LAN and local to the servers) and ssh via remote (as was connecting over the Internet from home. There are an assortment of old BBSes from the MS-DOS days who have made the transition to the Internet, and are accessible via telnet rather than a dial-up modem connection. --- A FreeDOS Newser (NEW uSER) __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
