Re: [Freedos-user] Only getting freedos text at boot when creating bootable USB
yeah, rufus works when all that other stuff fails, i've tried it, and i know. at least with rufus.akeo.ie rufus you get a fail-proof setup. others are hit-and miss. eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com From: Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Only getting freedos text at boot when creating bootable USB Hi, On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Richard H Lee ricardohenry...@gmail.com wrote: A few months ago I was using sys-freedos.pl to create bootable USB Freedos stick for bios updates. But I tried the same thing today, but now it is only showing FREEDOS, with the caret after it. There is no command prompt. No idea, honestly. I know that's not much help, but I suggest trying Rufus instead, if at all possible: http://rufus.akeo.ie/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Only getting freedos text at boot when creating bootable USB
rufus may be a good solution, but given that it runs on windows only, it's definitely not a silver bullet. Mark Brown eufdp...@yahoo.com wrote: yeah, rufus works when all that other stuff fails, i've tried it, and i know. at least with rufus.akeo.ie rufus you get a fail-proof setup. others are hit-and miss. ... eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com ... From: Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Only getting freedos text at boot when creating bootable USB Hi, On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Richard H Lee ricardohenry...@gmail.com wrote: A few months ago I was using sys-freedos.pl to create bootable USB Freedos stick for bios updates. But I tried the same thing today, but now it is only showing FREEDOS, with the caret after it. There is no command prompt. No idea, honestly. I know that's not much help, but I suggest trying Rufus instead, if at all possible: http://rufus.akeo.ie/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Only getting freedos text at boot when creating bootable USB
rufus may be a good solution, but given that it runs on windows only, it's definitely not a silver bullet. sure. but given that it's the only bullet ... Tom -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Fwd: FreeDOS has an error with it's DEVICE= line in CONFIG.SYS
Small bug report (and several comments) on news://comp.os.msdos.programmer , if anyone is curious. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/comp.os.msdos.programmer/mxAPSdUML7U I pasted this DEVICE= line from my MS-DOS CONFIG.SYS into FreeDOS' CONFIG.SYS (v1.1): DEVICE=HIMEMX.EXE/MAX=2097152/NUMHANDLES=128/METHOD:PORT92 It flagged the '=' sign with an error via a caret '^' on the next line. What does that mean exactly? What could be wrong with the '=' sign? Nothing. It happens there is no correlation between the indicated error and the problem ... There is a bug in FreeDOS. So, next, I reduced the FreeDOS DEVICE= line to: DEVICE=HIMEMX.EXE It still flagged the '=' sign as an error. After spending a half-hour trying every combination of upper- and lower-case DEVICE=, HIMEMX.EXE, and the path, I found that FreeDOS needs a space between HIMEMX.EXE and it's parameters. Unfortunately, the need for a space is required whether the DEVICE= line has parameters or not ... I.e., the line above without parameters needs a space at the end!!! Most DOS editors trim the final spaces from the end-of-line. I'd think that anyone familiar with DOS would know that or should. If you're reading and are familiar with someone on the FreeDOS team, could you pass along this error report? Rod Pemberton -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Another possible ambiguity of target; a drive part not acceptable to the installer.
Given a drive partitioned with fdisk in Debian Linux. The first part is labelled type 6 and I want to install FreeDOS there. The FreeDOS 1.1 CD installer complains and wants to format the disk. Does it really want to format the whole disk containing 4 parts? Does it intend to format only one part in spite of saying disk? Can FreeDOS be installed to the first part without damaging data on subsequent parts? If so, how? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] What about scsi???
I have a 4G scsi hard drive connect to an LSI Logic low profile scsi card. I'm trying to install freedos 1.1 from a floppy disk. Are there scsi drivers I can add to the disk? -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
Does the SCSI card have an onboard BIOS? If so, it should provide BIOS level access to hard drives using INT 13h. You should not need device drivers to access that function. Windows wants device drivers for additional device support and performance. FreeDOS is just fine with BIOS level support. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
On 2012-12-17 20:12 (GMT-0800) Michael C. Robinson composed: I have a 4G scsi hard drive connect to an LSI Logic low profile scsi card. I'm trying to install freedos 1.1 from a floppy disk. Are there scsi drivers I can add to the disk? Most such PCI cards likely you won't need one if you just want to boot from a HD attached to it. Most have a BIOS that automatically merges into the motherboard BIOS on boot. Some really old NCR cards don't have a BIOS, but will boot from an NCR BIOS embedded in the motherboard BIOS. Those probably stopped being made a decade or more ago. For support other than HDs, you'll need drivers. For older LSI cards the driver archives are variously named NCR8XX or SYM8XX. Most common is probably the SYM8XX for which you'd need the ASPI8XX.SYS driver to start with. There's also a SYMCD.SYS for CD access, and a SYMDISK.SYS for non-INT13 devices. There should be instructions in the driver archive when you find the right one for your chip. You need to figure out which chip the card uses to figure out which driver you need. Whether the ones for older cards can still be had directly from LSI I have no idea, but they should. If not, they're probably not too hard to find. Such drivers are included in Windows installation media and built into Linux. I've not used one with DOS in quite some time. ISTR they're really slow compared to modern SATA and the latter incarnations of PATA HDs. In DOS using INT13 for I/O you might not be able to tell any speed difference though unless using benchmarking software or large data files. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
The scsi card appears to be 53C1010-66 LsiLogic where I have a Compaq 4.3 gig scsi drive connected to it. The scsi drive has no partitions on it, but I successfully low level formatted it. I searched via google and tried a copy of symdisk.sys and aspi8xx.sys, but the hard drive doesn't detect. I noticed that the card doesn't seem to the detect the hard drive if it is scanning from 0 to 15, but it works when scanning from 15 to 0. I wish scsi kernels were standardized and open sourced for freedos. The current kernel expects IDE or SATA. The hard drive is small, so using freedos is going to be ideal and I still need to test the hard disk. The controller is an ultra 3 scsi controller. I doubt that the hard disk can do that though. I could try an old version of Linux, but I'd have to install via network and/or floppy disk. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???
On 2012-12-17 22:43 (GMT-0800) Michael C. Robinson composed: The scsi card appears to be 53C1010-66 LsiLogic where I have a Compaq 4.3 gig scsi drive connected to it. According to LSI's web site the product doesn't seem to exist, but according to http://listing.driveragent.com/c/pci/1000/0021/* it appears there are DOS drivers for it. I searched via google and tried a copy of symdisk.sys and aspi8xx.sys, but the hard drive doesn't detect. Yours is much much newer. I wish scsi kernels were standardized and open sourced for freedos. The current kernel expects IDE or SATA. SCSI has never been like that. The hard drive is small, so using freedos is going to be ideal and I still need to test the hard disk. Unless the newer LSI cards are vastly different from old ones, you ought to be able to use FDISK or Parted and install DOS from floppies without any driver. To install it from a non-bootable CD you'll need the ASPI and CD driver. A standard FreeDOS CD I guess would have to be considered non-bootable as long as it cannot load LSI ASPI and CD drivers. If you know how to modify iso files before burning, then you could include the drivers you need. The driver package should include an ASPI driver that can be used for additional diagnostics beyond what are in the HBA's BIOS if necessary. I could try an old version of Linux, but I'd have to install via network and/or floppy disk. You might find DOSEMU in a slim Linux distro to be faster, and easier since Linux takes care of driver requirements automatically. Network is virtually the only way I ever install Linux. Usually I set up the HD first, then use a Knoppix CD to install Grub and the installation kernel and initrd for the distro I want to install, then boot the HD to install via HTTP. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
