Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Tom Ehlert

> On 6/8/2015 7:27 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
>> For printers its usually easy to find the control commands but
>> for cd units I've never seen them made available to the public.
>> Is there a command list published anywhere for cds.
>>
> Yes, it's called ATAPI and there exist a lot of different documents for
> the different classes of ATAPI devices. The only non-ATAPI CD-ROM drives
> that I am aware of are/were those of some early Creative 
> soundcard/CD-ROM drive combos. Those used their own subset of ATAPI 
> commands, hence a more standard CD-ROM driver won't work, as well had 
> their own digital audio connector that made those CD-ROM drives only 
> work with their bundled sound cards and vice versa...

> The catch with the documentation however is that this is stuff that you
> have to buy from t13.org, the committee that defined those standards...

googling 'ATAPI specification' turned up www.bswd.com/sff8020i.pdf at
position 2.

there are MANY other links containing the ATAPI spec.

even you old time DOS guys should start to use a search engine instead
of asking such (easy answered) questions on mailing lists.

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/8/2015 7:27 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> For printers its usually easy to find the control commands but
> for cd units I've never seen them made available to the public.
> Is there a command list published anywhere for cds.
>
Yes, it's called ATAPI and there exist a lot of different documents for 
the different classes of ATAPI devices. The only non-ATAPI CD-ROM drives 
that I am aware of are/were those of some early Creative 
soundcard/CD-ROM drive combos. Those used their own subset of ATAPI 
commands, hence a more standard CD-ROM driver won't work, as well had 
their own digital audio connector that made those CD-ROM drives only 
work with their bundled sound cards and vice versa...

The catch with the documentation however is that this is stuff that you 
have to buy from t13.org, the committee that defined those standards...

Ralf

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Eric Auer  wrote:
>
> http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=14268
>
> mentions a new version of the closed source variant of Jack's
> drivers, but it sounds as if that mainly has been tested with
> modern drives, suspecting that your drive uses outdated audio
> command dialects. In any case, maybe the update helps you? :-)

He's basically saying that Lite-On is too old and non-standard. Thus
he takes no blame nor responsibility. So it's your buggy drive's
fault, not his. Apparently he thinks his drivers are flawless.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Dale E Sterner
For printers its usually easy to find the control commands but
for cd units I've never seen them made available to the public.
Is there a command list published anywhere for cds.

cheers
DS


On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 13:22:43 +0200 Eric Auer  writes:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=14268
> 
> mentions a new version of the closed source variant of Jack's
> drivers, but it sounds as if that mainly has been tested with
> modern drives, suspecting that your drive uses outdated audio
> command dialects. In any case, maybe the update helps you? :-)
> 
> Regards, Eric
> 
> >> It could be an incorrect or buggy driver, dunno. The only way to 
> know
> >> would be to try something else. But I'm not sure of a "good"
> >> alternative. I don't even know where to (reliably) find such old 
> DOS
> >> drivers.
> > 
> > That seems to have been the case.  In my post that followed the 
> one you 
> > replied to, I noted that I successfully replaced uide.sys with a 
> Lite-on 
> > driver to get audio CD working.
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work

2015-06-08 Thread Eric Auer

Hi John,

http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=14268

mentions a new version of the closed source variant of Jack's
drivers, but it sounds as if that mainly has been tested with
modern drives, suspecting that your drive uses outdated audio
command dialects. In any case, maybe the update helps you? :-)

Regards, Eric

>> It could be an incorrect or buggy driver, dunno. The only way to know
>> would be to try something else. But I'm not sure of a "good"
>> alternative. I don't even know where to (reliably) find such old DOS
>> drivers.
> 
> That seems to have been the case.  In my post that followed the one you 
> replied to, I noted that I successfully replaced uide.sys with a Lite-on 
> driver to get audio CD working.


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