Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Louis Santillan]

Zip


Installer inside of Zip



On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Don Flowers  wrote:
> It is in the FreeDOS 1.0 pkg repo
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs/
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:09 PM, dmccunney 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, dmccunney 
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner 
>> > wrote:
>> >> My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
>> >> It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
>> >> Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
>> >
>> > Try http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
>> > as an alternate source for SETEDIT.
>>
>> Oops!  Wrong editor.  That one gets you SEDIT, which is a different
>> product.  Sorry.
>>
>> And I suspect the problem with SourceForge isn't HTML5, it's
>> JavaScript.  Just about everything uses it now, and I'm not aware of
>> any DOS browser that supports it.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Don Flowers]

It is in the FreeDOS 1.0 pkg repo
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs/

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:09 PM, dmccunney 
wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, dmccunney 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner 
> wrote:
> >> My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
> >> It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
> >> Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
> >
> > Try http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
> > as an alternate source for SETEDIT.
>
> Oops!  Wrong editor.  That one gets you SEDIT, which is a different
> product.  Sorry.
>
> And I suspect the problem with SourceForge isn't HTML5, it's
> JavaScript.  Just about everything uses it now, and I'm not aware of
> any DOS browser that supports it.
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Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG finds 0 updates -- expected?

[John Hupp]

OK, Mateusz, thanks for clarifying.

On 2/26/2016 11:49 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> Hi,
>
> IIRC, FreeDOS 1.1 is broken by default when it comes to package
> management. Hopefully v1.2 will work better.
>
> As for now, you'd have to install packages via FDNPKG first, and only
> then these packages will be detected and handled properly.
> Example: FDNPKG INSTALL MEM
>
> To answer your second question: FDNPKG will manage/handle/update any
> package that has been installed as a package (this includes FreeDOS core
> tools, third-party utilites, games, and whatever else is installed via
> FDNPKG).
>
> Mateusz
>
>
>
>
> On 26/02/2016 17:04, John Hupp wrote:
>> Perhaps FDNPKG is more of a future-proofing tool, but after installing
>> it on default FD 1.1 (with a few other programs installed outside C:\DOS
>> e.g. C:\ARACHNE, C:\DILLODOS, C:\LINKS and 1-2 more), I ran FDNPKG
>> CHECKUPDATES and it found 0 updates to install.
>>
>> Is this expected -- no updates for the default FD 1.1 packages?
>>
>> And does it only check for updates for packages/programs installed in
>> C:\DOS (or whatever the FD installation target was)?
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[dmccunney]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, dmccunney  wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
>> My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
>> It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
>> Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
>
> Try http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
> as an alternate source for SETEDIT.

Oops!  Wrong editor.  That one gets you SEDIT, which is a different
product.  Sorry.

And I suspect the problem with SourceForge isn't HTML5, it's
JavaScript.  Just about everything uses it now, and I'm not aware of
any DOS browser that supports it.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[dmccunney]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
> My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
> It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
> Still learning how to get this Android to work well.

Try http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/sedit110.zip
as an alternate source for SETEDIT.

> You remember I said that micro SD chips format slowly.
> I take it back; I had a bad chip. If you put them in a cr-7100 adapter.
> They're almost as fast as a CF chip.

They come formatted as FAT32 out of the box.  Why would you need to format one?

> cheers
> DS
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Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG finds 0 updates -- expected?

[Mateusz Viste]

Hi,

IIRC, FreeDOS 1.1 is broken by default when it comes to package 
management. Hopefully v1.2 will work better.

As for now, you'd have to install packages via FDNPKG first, and only 
then these packages will be detected and handled properly.
Example: FDNPKG INSTALL MEM

To answer your second question: FDNPKG will manage/handle/update any 
package that has been installed as a package (this includes FreeDOS core 
tools, third-party utilites, games, and whatever else is installed via 
FDNPKG).

Mateusz




On 26/02/2016 17:04, John Hupp wrote:
> Perhaps FDNPKG is more of a future-proofing tool, but after installing
> it on default FD 1.1 (with a few other programs installed outside C:\DOS
> e.g. C:\ARACHNE, C:\DILLODOS, C:\LINKS and 1-2 more), I ran FDNPKG
> CHECKUPDATES and it found 0 updates to install.
>
> Is this expected -- no updates for the default FD 1.1 packages?
>
> And does it only check for updates for packages/programs installed in
> C:\DOS (or whatever the FD installation target was)?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Dale E Sterner]

My old puter doesn't read html 5. I have to use Android tablet.
It downloads apps OK but for other stuff it seems to balk.
Still learning how to get this Android to work well.
You remember I said that micro SD chips format slowly.
I take it back; I had a bad chip. If you put them in a cr-7100 adapter.
They're almost as fast as a CF chip.

cheers
DS

On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:19:03 -0500 dmccunney 
writes:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner  
> wrote:
> > Where do you get setedit?
> 
> http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
> 
> > cheers
> > DS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

I don't know, sorry.

On 2/26/2016 10:14 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> Is there any other link like ibilo. Sourcefore is using html 5. I have to
> use the tablet
> for that one. Tablets are a pain sometimes.
>
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:55:57 -0500 John Hupp 
> writes:
>> http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> On 2/26/2016 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
>>> Where do you get setedit?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> DS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:20:38 -0500 John Hupp
>> 
>>> writes:
 I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text
 editor: nice!

 On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.
>
> On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
>> I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT
>> for
>> most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and
 that
>> helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp
 > > wrote:
>>
>>   I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in
 Edit,
>>   but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.
>>
>>   Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers.
>> Nothing
>>   else looks nearly so bad.
>>
>>   But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in
>> memory
 all
>>   the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit
 function
>>   like keyboard-only.
>>
>>
>>   On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
>>>   I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
>>>   http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
>>>
>>>   On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>   With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
>>>   hardware (Pentium
>>>   II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4
 MB), I
>>>   find that
>>>   the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
>>>   invisible.   There
>>>   are partial-image flashes of the expected brown
 rectangle.
>>>   But if I
>>>   open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown
>> rectangle
>>>   while the menu
>>>   is open.
>>>
>>>   In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice
>> solid
 gray.
>>>   I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a
 CRT.
>>>   I don't have anything additional installed on this
 system
>>>   yet so I don't
>>>   know what the behavior will be in other programs.
>>>
>>>   The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit --
>> it's
>>>   usually flashing
>>>   but fully visible -- but I have never seen it
>> virtually
>>>   invisible like
>>>   this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until
>> I
>>>   stepped through
>>>   the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE
>> does
>>>   indeed run
>>>   successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the
 visual
>>>   traces of
>>>   the pointer in Edit.
>>>
>>>   Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
>>>


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[dmccunney]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
> Where do you get setedit?

http://setedit.sourceforge.net/

> cheers
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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Dale E Sterner]

Is there any other link like ibilo. Sourcefore is using html 5. I have to
use the tablet
for that one. Tablets are a pain sometimes.


cheers
DS


On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:55:57 -0500 John Hupp 
writes:
> http://setedit.sourceforge.net/
> 
> On 2/26/2016 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> > Where do you get setedit?
> >
> > cheers
> > DS
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:20:38 -0500 John Hupp 
> 
> > writes:
> >> I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text
> >> editor: nice!
> >>
> >> On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> >>> Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.
> >>>
> >>> On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
>  I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT 
> for
>  most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and
> >> that
>  helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.
> 
>  On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp
> >>   > wrote:
> 
>   I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in
> >> Edit,
>   but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.
> 
>   Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers. 
> Nothing
>   else looks nearly so bad.
> 
>   But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in 
> memory
> >> all
>   the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit
> >> function
>   like keyboard-only.
> 
> 
>   On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
> >  I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
> >  http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
> >
> >  On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
> >   wrote:
> >
> >  With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
> >  hardware (Pentium
> >  II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4
> >> MB), I
> >  find that
> >  the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
> >  invisible.   There
> >  are partial-image flashes of the expected brown
> >> rectangle.
> >  But if I
> >  open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown 
> rectangle
> >  while the menu
> >  is open.
> >
> >  In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice 
> solid
> >> gray.
> >  I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a
> >> CRT.
> >  I don't have anything additional installed on this
> >> system
> >  yet so I don't
> >  know what the behavior will be in other programs.
> >
> >  The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- 
> it's
> >  usually flashing
> >  but fully visible -- but I have never seen it 
> virtually
> >  invisible like
> >  this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until 
> I
> >  stepped through
> >  the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE 
> does
> >  indeed run
> >  successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the
> >> visual
> >  traces of
> >  the pointer in Edit.
> >
> >  Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
> >
> 
> 
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[Freedos-user] FDNPKG finds 0 updates -- expected?

[John Hupp]

Perhaps FDNPKG is more of a future-proofing tool, but after installing 
it on default FD 1.1 (with a few other programs installed outside C:\DOS 
e.g. C:\ARACHNE, C:\DILLODOS, C:\LINKS and 1-2 more), I ran FDNPKG 
CHECKUPDATES and it found 0 updates to install.

Is this expected -- no updates for the default FD 1.1 packages?

And does it only check for updates for packages/programs installed in 
C:\DOS (or whatever the FD installation target was)?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

http://setedit.sourceforge.net/

On 2/26/2016 9:54 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> Where do you get setedit?
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:20:38 -0500 John Hupp 
> writes:
>> I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text
>> editor: nice!
>>
>> On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:
>>> Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.
>>>
>>> On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
 I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT for
 most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and
>> that
 helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp
>> >>> > wrote:

  I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in
>> Edit,
  but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.

  Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers. Nothing
  else looks nearly so bad.

  But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory
>> all
  the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit
>> function
  like keyboard-only.


  On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
>  I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
>  http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
>
>  On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
>   wrote:
>
>  With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
>  hardware (Pentium
>  II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4
>> MB), I
>  find that
>  the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
>  invisible.   There
>  are partial-image flashes of the expected brown
>> rectangle.
>  But if I
>  open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle
>  while the menu
>  is open.
>
>  In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid
>> gray.
>  I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a
>> CRT.
>  I don't have anything additional installed on this
>> system
>  yet so I don't
>  know what the behavior will be in other programs.
>
>  The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's
>  usually flashing
>  but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually
>  invisible like
>  this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I
>  stepped through
>  the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does
>  indeed run
>  successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the
>> visual
>  traces of
>  the pointer in Edit.
>
>  Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
>


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[Dale E Sterner]

Where do you get setedit?

cheers
DS


On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:20:38 -0500 John Hupp 
writes:
> I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text 
> editor: nice!
> 
> On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:
> > Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.
> >
> > On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
> >> I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT for 
> 
> >> most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and 
> that 
> >> helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp 
>  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in 
> Edit,
> >> but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.
> >>
> >> Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers. Nothing
> >> else looks nearly so bad.
> >>
> >> But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory 
> all
> >> the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit 
> function
> >> like keyboard-only.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
> >>> I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
> >>> http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
> >>> hardware (Pentium
> >>> II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 
> MB), I
> >>> find that
> >>> the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
> >>> invisible.   There
> >>> are partial-image flashes of the expected brown 
> rectangle. 
> >>> But if I
> >>> open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle
> >>> while the menu
> >>> is open.
> >>>
> >>> In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid 
> gray.
> >>>
> >>> I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a 
> CRT.
> >>>
> >>> I don't have anything additional installed on this 
> system
> >>> yet so I don't
> >>> know what the behavior will be in other programs.
> >>>
> >>> The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's
> >>> usually flashing
> >>> but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually
> >>> invisible like
> >>> this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I
> >>> stepped through
> >>> the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does
> >>> indeed run
> >>> successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the 
> visual
> >>> traces of
> >>> the pointer in Edit.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have an explanation or solution?
> >>>
> >
> 


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Re: [Freedos-user] Poor mouse pointer visibility in Edit

[John Hupp]

I installed SETEDIT last night.  First impression of this text editor: nice!

On 2/25/2016 10:03 AM, John Hupp wrote:

Thanks for the recommendation.  I'll have a look.

On 2/24/2016 9:40 PM, Don Flowers wrote:
I had forgotten how bad that cursor is in EDIT, I use SETEDIT for 
most everything these days. I just tried a no-blink utility and that 
helps a bit more, but not enough to waste the memory.


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Hupp > wrote:


I tried this today.  It improves the pointer situation in Edit,
but the arrow gets chopped up a lot as I move it around.

Something about Edit seems to be hostile to pointers. Nothing
else looks nearly so bad.

But for the degree of improvement in Edit, it sits in memory all
the time occupying 7K, so I may remove it and let Edit function
like keyboard-only.


On 2/20/2016 6:37 PM, Don Flowers wrote:

I use this neat little mouse pointer it's pretty cool.
http://www.pcorner.com/list/GRAPHUTI/PP111.ZIP/INFO/

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:27 PM, John Hupp
 wrote:

With the default installation of FreeDOS 1.1 on real
hardware (Pentium
II @ 300 MHz, 48 MB, ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP video with 4 MB), I
find that
the mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost
invisible.   There
are partial-image flashes of the expected brown rectangle. 
But if I

open a menu, then there is a nice solid brown rectangle
while the menu
is open.

In the FreeDOS Help system, the pointer is a nice solid gray.

I got the same results with 2 LCD monitors and also a CRT.

I don't have anything additional installed on this system
yet so I don't
know what the behavior will be in other programs.

The mouse pointer has never been pretty in Edit -- it's
usually flashing
but fully visible -- but I have never seen it virtually
invisible like
this.  Initially I thought there was no pointer until I
stepped through
the Autoexec.bat startup and confirmed that MOUSE does
indeed run
successfully, after which I looked harder and saw the visual
traces of
the pointer in Edit.

Does anyone have an explanation or solution?





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