Re: [Freedos-user] Possible bug with Fd1.2

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Paolo Vincenzo Olivo  wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm up to report what I think could be a bug with the 1.2 version of
> Freedos installer. I burned a boot cd with the standard version of the Fd12
> installer
>
> Whenever I tried to install the OS, I always got a 'invalid OpCode' error at
> the beginning,  throughout my whole screen, which prevented
> me to go through and forced me to reboot.
>
> I discovered that skipping the himemx setting allowed me to continue the
> installation.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that using the "Legacy" .iso
will avoid this (presumably BIOS incompatibility) problem:

http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12LGCY.iso

If that doesn't help, please tell us.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Disabling Internal Speaker

[Gregg Eshelman]

Does that laptop by chance happen to have a CardBus slot? Some companies were 
still equipping laptops with CardBus in 2008 instead of switching to 
ExpressCard, or using both, like Lenovo.
If you have a CardBus slot, then it may be possible to use a PCMCIA soundcard 
from the 90's for DOS games.
DOS PCMCIA support was complex. First, it required a PCMCIA controller driver. 
On top of that, there could be class drivers, which worked for any 
manufacturers' devices - mostly RAM cards and IIRC some modems and network 
cards. Devices that did special things which couldn't fit into a generic class 
driver required their own separate one, called a point driver.
So the question is, is there a DOS PCMCIA controller driver that works with 
early 21st century laptops? 

This could quickly become a RAM hog if you needed more than a couple of class 
drivers and point drivers.

If the only device you were using was a soundcard then you only needed the 
controller driver and the card's point driver. If you were running Windows 3.x 
then it needed its own driver for the soundcard.
Windows 95 brought order to the mess by not requiring any DOS drivers for 
PCMCIA or CardBus and more class drivers with broader device support were 
available.
USB went through a similar development process where before Windows Me nearly 
all USB devices required their own separate drivers. Got to be a huge mess 
installing different drivers for every thumb drive. The Maximus Decim port of 
WinMe's USB Mass Storage class driver to 98SE was very helpful.
What would be nice is a generic universal PCMCIA controller driver for DOS, 
like that OAK CDROM driver.
That became the only DOS CDROM driver I used once I first encountered it. 
Hallelujah! I could finally do installs of two different brands of drives and 
use only one driver. Even when installing two of the same make and model drive, 
some of them required loading two copies of their driver. The OAK driver could 
run any number from one copy.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Disabling Internal Speaker

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Paolo Vincenzo Olivo  wrote:
>
> Hi, I was wondering if it were possible to disable the internal speaker of
> the pc through Freedos.

I don't normally think it's possible, no.

It's been a few years, but I vaguely remember some TSRs that tried to
(mostly) check for and disable beeping, but that doesn't always work
either.

Overall, you might have to just disassemble the binary and nop out the
parts that "out" (write) to whatever port(s).

> The problem is I installed freedos for retrogaming
> on a 2008 acer laptop, dual booting it alongside ubuntu with grub2.
> Obviously there are no DOS drivers for my sound card, but I don't mind
> playing mute.

There is no good sound support overall, no. Sound is one of the
weakest links, sadly.

But you could try (shareware) QuickView, Mpxplay, Judas Player, or
Ruslan's drivers (ported to a few tools, e.g. ZDoom, HX, UHexen2).

> The problem now is that there are some games, especially older
> ones, which do not actually have a sound setup option, but they give input
> to the internal speaker by default.

Most PCs in the very old days didn't have anything better. Only later
did Adlib, SB, GUS, etc. become popular.

You can halfway play digital sounds via PC speaker, but it's a kludge.
(Wolfenstein 3D even has an undocumented config option for that.)

> As a result my pc ends up performing
> high pitched, loudy sounds, which is a real unpleasant, weird, embarassing
> thing when you try launching a game with someone around.

Some modern machines (e.g. my old 2007 laptop) "emulated" the PC
speaker *extremely* loudly. Best to just not play such problematic
games, or only play ones that allow you to disable sound (which some
thankfully do).

> I look forward to receiving some good tips
> Thank you very much for your cooperation

Don't get your hopes up too high.

(BTW, you can always instead run most games under DOSEMU or DOSBox or
similar, which presumably have better sound controls in the host OS,
e.g. GNU/Linux.)

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[Freedos-user] Possible bug with Fd1.2

[Paolo Vincenzo Olivo]

Hi, I'm up to report what I think could be a bug with the 1.2 version of 
Freedos installer. I burned a boot cd with the standard version of the Fd12 
installer, I did it twice, to verify it wasn't a matter of corrupted burning, 
with two different disks and two different programs (img burn and cdburnerXP). 
I burned the cds at 2x speed and performed a final verification. Whenever I 
tried to install the OS, I always got a 'invalid OpCode' error at the 
beginning,  throughout my whole screen, which prevented me to go through and 
forced me to reboot. I press f8 to configure the installation manually and see 
what the problem might be. I discovered that skipping the himemx setting 
allowed me to continue the installation. Since I'm not such an experienced user 
and I did not know wheter skippng that would affect my future usage of expanded 
memory or not, I decided to install the 1.1 version to avoid any other bugs and 
it worked well.
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Re: [Freedos-user] overflooded by old emails

[Jerome Shidel]

> On May 7, 2017, at 2:11 PM, cc...@iglou.com wrote:
> 
> Close, I think it was a configuration error on my part.  I changed e-mail
> address to one on my own server and the messages burped from my new one. 
> Sorry for the error.

I can't speak for everyone else. But, as for me, no big deal. It is the most 
excitement the list has seen in a couple days. :-)

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[Freedos-user] Disabling Internal Speaker

[Paolo Vincenzo Olivo]

Hi, I was wondering if it were possible to disable the internal speaker of the 
pc through Freedos. The problem is I installed freedos for retrogaming on a 
2008 acer laptop, dual booting it alongside ubuntu with grub2. Obviously there 
are no DOS drivers for my sound card, but I don't mind playing mute. The 
problem now is that there are some games, especially older ones, which do not 
actually have a sound setup option, but they give input to the internal speaker 
by default. As a result my pc ends up performing high pitched, loudy sounds, 
which is a real unpleasant, weird, embarassing thing when you try launching a 
game with someone around.
I look forward to receiving some good tips
Thank you very much for your cooperation

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Re: [Freedos-user] overflooded by old emails

[ccoky]

Close, I think it was a configuration error on my part.  I changed e-mail
address to one on my own server and the messages burped from my new one. 
Sorry for the error.

On Sun, May 7, 2017 12:30, Jerome Shidel wrote:
>

>
>> On May 7, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Jim Hall  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Some email address was playing back old messages, don't know why. I
>> unsubscribed the email address from the list.
>
> Well, here is my guess on the event.
>
>
> There are many sites that mirror the FreeDOS mailing list archives. The
> easiest way to perform that task is to just subscribe to the list and let
> SF send the server any updates. Many of the messages in the mini-flood
> have truncated subject lines. So, my guess is the server had an and error
> that caused its cache to be dumped into postfix (or other mail client)
> and off they went. Possibly caused by an attempted hack of the afflicted
> server.
>
> Or, bug in SF mailing list.
>
>
> But, that is all just speculation. Since it was such a short lived flood
> and wasn't one of my servers, I'm not concerned enough to dig through my
> email archive to compare the headers with the recent messages to see if I
> learn anything from them.
>
>>
>> Has it happened in the last 4 hours?
>>
>
> Think there was just that one single flood of about 320 messages early
> this morning.
>
>> The list admin interface kind of sucks from a phone, so I didn't see a
>> way to block/ban the address in addition to unsubscribing. I can ban
>> the address if it happens again.
>>
>>> On May 7, 2017 9:05 AM, "Jiri Wackermann" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it has happened, and mysteriously, it happens again.
>>> I cleaned up my Inbox and now the pest is back.
>>> Really annoying.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jiri
>>>
>>>
> Has it happened to anybody else?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Wesley Parish
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] overflooded by old emails

[Jerome Shidel]

> On May 7, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Jim Hall  wrote:
> 
> Some email address was playing back old messages, don't know why. I 
> unsubscribed the email address from the list.

Well, here is my guess on the event.

There are many sites that mirror the FreeDOS mailing list archives. The easiest 
way to perform that task is to just subscribe to the list and let SF send the 
server any updates. Many of the messages in the mini-flood have truncated 
subject lines. So, my guess is the server had an and error that caused its 
cache to be dumped into postfix (or other mail client) and off they went. 
Possibly caused by an attempted hack of the afflicted server. 

Or, bug in SF mailing list. 

But, that is all just speculation. Since it was such a short lived flood and 
wasn't one of my servers, I'm not concerned enough to dig through my email 
archive to compare the headers with the recent messages to see if I learn 
anything from them.

> 
> Has it happened in the last 4 hours?

Think there was just that one single flood of about 320 messages early this 
morning.

> The list admin interface kind of sucks from a phone, so I didn't see a way to 
> block/ban the address in addition to unsubscribing. I can ban the address if 
> it happens again.
> 
>> On May 7, 2017 9:05 AM, "Jiri Wackermann"  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, it has happened, and mysteriously, it happens again.
>> I cleaned up my Inbox and now the pest is back.
>> Really annoying.
>> 
>> Jiri
>> 
>> >> Has it happened to anybody else?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Wesley Parish
>> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] overflooded by old emails

[Jim Hall]

Some email address was playing back old messages, don't know why. I
unsubscribed the email address from the list.

Has it happened in the last 4 hours?

The list admin interface kind of sucks from a phone, so I didn't see a way
to block/ban the address in addition to unsubscribing. I can ban the
address if it happens again.

On May 7, 2017 9:05 AM, "Jiri Wackermann"  wrote:

>
>
> Yes, it has happened, and mysteriously, it happens again.
> I cleaned up my Inbox and now the pest is back.
> Really annoying.
>
> Jiri
>
> >> Has it happened to anybody else?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Wesley Parish
>
> 
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[Freedos-user] overflooded by old emails

[Jiri Wackermann]

Yes, it has happened, and mysteriously, it happens again.
I cleaned up my Inbox and now the pest is back.
Really annoying.

Jiri

>> Has it happened to anybody else?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Wesley Parish

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Re: [Freedos-user] all these files

[Jim Hall]

Some email address was playing back old messages, don't know why. I
unsubscribed the email address from the list.

The list admin interface kind of sucks from a phone, so I didn't see a way
to block/ban the address in addition to unsubscribing. I can ban the
address if it happens again.

On May 7, 2017 8:32 AM, "Rinaldo Guelpa"  wrote:

> Hello Friends,
> Something must be wrong why am I geeting all these old emails?
> I did not change my settings.
> Regards
>
> Rinaldo
> guelpa...@telkomsa.net
>
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[Freedos-user] all these files

[Rinaldo Guelpa]

Hello Friends,
Something must be wrong why am I geeting all these old emails?
I did not change my settings.
Regards

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Re: [Freedos-user] OT: What gives?

[Gregg Eshelman]

Several hundred messages from this list, I just deleted the whole lot.

On Sunday, May 7, 2017, 3:00:48 AM MDT, Robert Riebisch  
wrote:Hi Rugxulo,

>> I just opened my inbox and found a pile of list emails from 2016-09-11 right 
>> up
>> to 2017-04-8.
>>
>> Has it happened to anybody else?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Wesley Parish
> 
> Yes, it happened to me, too. (BTW, nice way to clarify about a bunch
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Re: [Freedos-user] OT: What gives?

[Jim Hall]

Nope, want releasing old emails. Eric got it right: some email address is
playing back old messages, don't know why. It's 4:45am here, so I had to do
it on my phone, but I've unsubscribed the email address from the list.

The list admin interface kind of sucks from a phone, so I didn't see a way
to block/ban the address in addition to unsubscribing, but I'm hoping if
it's malicious that it won't start again before I'm properly awake.

On May 7, 2017 3:59 AM, "Robert Riebisch"  wrote:

Hi Rugxulo,

>> I just opened my inbox and found a pile of list emails from 2016-09-11
right up
>> to 2017-04-8.
>>
>> Has it happened to anybody else?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Wesley Parish
>
> Yes, it happened to me, too. (BTW, nice way to clarify about a bunch
> of spam, email the list!!!):-P

Same here.

Maybe Jim released "some" old messages from SF spam quarantine. ;-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] OT: What gives?

[Eric Auer]

Hi guys,

apparently somebody is re-sending old freedos-user emails from
[original name of person] , using content
between mid-2016 and today. Until early 2017, you will also see
ALL CAPS original names, but they have now fixed that. Almost
of those 500 mails came out in a burst that only took half an
hour. I suggest to block that email address from list posting
and kick their mails from the archives, otherwise it will look
as if those guys are great FreeDOS contributors...

Cheers, Eric

> Hi Rugxulo,
> 
>>> I just opened my inbox and found a pile of list emails from 2016-09-11 
>>> right up
>>> to 2017-04-8.
>>>
>>> Has it happened to anybody else?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Wesley Parish
>>
>> Yes, it happened to me, too. (BTW, nice way to clarify about a bunch
>> of spam, email the list!!!):-P
> 
> Same here.
> 
> Maybe Jim released "some" old messages from SF spam quarantine. ;-)
> 
> Robert Riebisch




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Re: [Freedos-user] OT: What gives?

[Robert Riebisch]

Hi Rugxulo,

>> I just opened my inbox and found a pile of list emails from 2016-09-11 right 
>> up
>> to 2017-04-8.
>>
>> Has it happened to anybody else?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Wesley Parish
> 
> Yes, it happened to me, too. (BTW, nice way to clarify about a bunch
> of spam, email the list!!!):-P

Same here.

Maybe Jim released "some" old messages from SF spam quarantine. ;-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] OT: What gives?

[Rugxulo]

Hi,

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 1:19 AM, Wesley Parish
 wrote:
>
> I just opened my inbox and found a pile of list emails from 2016-09-11 right 
> up
> to 2017-04-8.
>
> Has it happened to anybody else?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wesley Parish

Yes, it happened to me, too. (BTW, nice way to clarify about a bunch
of spam, email the list!!!):-P

I'm not sure why this happened. I'm not a list admin either. But I did
notice this locally and quickly emailed the sysop [sic] of the alleged
spammer, and it seems to have stopped very soon afterwards. So,
hopefully the crisis has been averted (or was only temporary) and
won't resurface.

It was probably just some technical error on someone's end.

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[Freedos-user] OT: What gives?

[Wesley Parish]

I just opened my inbox and found a pile of list emails from 2016-09-11 right up
to 2017-04-8.

Has it happened to anybody else?

Thanks

Wesley Parish

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