Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

[Ralf Quint]

On 4/26/2018 1:34 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote:

Can I ask what country you live in.
I hope that doesn't happen in the US.
Well, his email address is kind of a clear indicator that he's living in 
Brazil...


Ralf

PS: It helps a lot in emails to a mailing list if one is actually 
putting something appropriate into the subject line...


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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

[dmccunney]

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Eric Auer  wrote:

> The NL also love digital payments for all
> everyday expenses, although studies show
> that this lets people lose proper view on
> their expenses. On the other hand, you in
> the US must be used to pay many things on
> credit, which has similar side effects.

The US is increasingly cashless.  Credit cards are only part of it.
Banks also issue debit cards which deduct directly from the configured
account.  We use very little cash on a day to day basis, and are happy
about it.

Doing everything electronically *does* make it possible to lose proper
view on expenses if you fail to actually read your monthly statements.

(And those, Ironically, are often still on paper.  We get paper
statements from our bank informing us of interest earned on an
interest bearing checking account.  That account has just enough cash
to cover bills paid with it, with the rest elsewhere.  It costs the
bank more in postage to *report* the interest earned than than the
earned interest itself.

We'd be just as happy to have that reported electronically, but
applicable regulations apparently require the bank to do it on paper.
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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

[Eric Auer]

Hi Dale,

> Can I ask what country you live in.
> I hope that doesn't happen in the US.

> A lot of people don't have computers here.
> Either they're too expensive or they just
> don't like them.

> I just can't imagine not having paper forms.

For example both in the NL and Germany, you
are pretty much forced to use computers for
your taxes. Until a few years ago, you had
to use Windows software, ironically written
in portable languages. Right now, you can do
basic tax using web forms in both countries.

The Dutch started to offer Linux and Mac tools
several years ago and suggest phone apps now!?

The German form wizard is still Windows-only,
but is at least slightly tuned for Linux Wine.
There also is a not-so-advertised pile of PDF.

The NL also love digital payments for all
everyday expenses, although studies show
that this lets people lose proper view on
their expenses. On the other hand, you in
the US must be used to pay many things on
credit, which has similar side effects.

I have not researched other countries, but
would be keen to hear about France, Belgium
and similar western European countries :-)

Regards, Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

[Dale E Sterner]

Can I ask what country you live in.
I hope that doesn't happen in the US.
A lot of people don't have computers here.
Either they're too expensive or they just
don't like them.
I just can't imagine not having paper forms.

cheers
DS



On Thu, 26 Apr 18 17:47:05 + =?UTF-8?B?Sm9zZSBBbnRvbmlvIFNlbm5h?=
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> 
> Dale E Sterner  said:
> 
> > I use qpro to crunch the numbers
> > I still have to get it to print the completed form out.
> > Each year it grows a little bigger and better.
> > I still have to hand copy it into a 1040 form.
> 
> Yes, and this is why I said you are lucky.
> You can still use paper forms,  which do not care
>  about how you fill them. 
> In 2010 or 2011 our government did away
>  completely with paper tax forms.  Everything is
>  now electronic and must be filled in a computer,
>  using one of the purpose-written programs freely
>  available from  the revenue service, then uploaded 
>  to their site. 
> All those programs are written in Java, so the same 
>  .jar can be used with Windows, Linux or MacOS
>  (now also with  Android or IOs, if you dare to use 
>  an smartphone to fill tax forms).  
>The programs have been updated since they 
>  appeared, and current tax forms cannot be used 
>  with the older versions.  This is why the JVM version
>  also had to be updated.
> 
>  JAS
> 
> 
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