Re: [Freedos-user] Open source thoughts about my DOS stuff

2020-08-27 Thread Jim Hall
Also, I tweeted your question. You can see the relies here:
https://twitter.com/FreeDOS_Project/status/1298943291258556416

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 3:29 PM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:56 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:
>
> ...
> Mercury, I thought bitbucket was a relatively unstructured place to "just
> upload files"?
> ...
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>
> According to this
> , it seems
> pretty GitHub-by. :)
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Re: [Freedos-user] Open source thoughts about my DOS stuff

2020-08-27 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user
On Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:56 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

> ...
> Mercury, I thought bitbucket was a relatively unstructured place to "just 
> upload files"?
> ...

According to 
[this](https://bitbucket.org/product/guides/getting-started/overview), it seems 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Open source thoughts about my DOS stuff

2020-08-27 Thread Ralf Quint

On 8/26/2020 9:03 PM, Jim Hall wrote:
I don't know of any source code client like git or svn for DOS or 
FreeDOS. But I haven't looked recently.


I don't think there is (or ever was) a real DOS client (not Windows 
command line), as all of those came into being well after "DOS was 
declared dead".


What I do remember though were client for early systems like RCS and 
SCCS, but then it might be difficult to find client for these on more 
recent OS (I think on Linux they by default dropped both of them in 
standard distributions).


I used for years my own system, but due to my current living situation, 
I can't run a Novell server currently, which prohibits its use, as it 
heavily relied on IPX as the basic networking protocol (rather than IP 
as today).


Ralf


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Re: [Freedos-user] Open source thoughts about my DOS stuff

2020-08-27 Thread TK Chia

Hello Eric,


My impression of git compared to svn is that the
use of random hex numbers instead of sequential
version numbers makes it very hard for me to get
an overview what happened when in projects seen
on the website, am I missing something?


[...]

> Having no SVN, CVS, GIT, HG for DOS tells me
> that we are stuck to cross-compilers or people
> who just download in other OS, then use in DOS?

I currently use GitHub together with Travis CI for building and doing
automated testing for my libi86 project --- see
https://github.com/tkchia/libi86/ and
https://github.com/tkchia/libi86/releases/ .

I understand there is a way to get Travis CI to automatically upload
build artefacts back onto a GitHub repository's releases page, but I
have not tried this yet.

For doing automated builds on a compile farm, I think you _will_ need to
prepare some sort of cross-compiler or DOS emulator at some point --- I
do not know of any modern compile farm that directly supports toolchains
running on MS-DOS.  But perhaps I am wrong.

Thank you!

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Re: [Freedos-user] Open source thoughts about my DOS stuff

2020-08-27 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Thanks, Eric:


Bryan, of course I can give explanations about
all those files, either by chat or email, or
answer questions about individual files :-)


I was meaning that your Web-page list was impenetrable to me.


Let me know whether YOU need a list and for
which of the directories on the website, then
I can mail it to you.


I expect that your work would be much too technical for me to use.


Or would you recommend
to send a list (for some or all directories?)
to the mailing list instead?


I was meaning that any site to which you posted your historical work, 
would need an index too.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Open source thoughts about my DOS stuff

2020-08-27 Thread Mateusz Viste

On 27/08/2020 10:56, Eric Auer wrote:

Having no SVN, CVS, GIT, HG for DOS tells me
that we are stuck to cross-compilers or people
who just download in other OS, then use in DOS?


Myself, I open one terminal with dosemu (for compiling stuff) and a 
second one with the normal linux shell to operate svn and edit files. 
Since dosemu relies on the local fs, it is extremely convenient.


Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] Open source thoughts about my DOS stuff

2020-08-27 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Tom, Jim, Mercury and Bryan,

> First website to come to mind is github.com

Does it have a good and sympathetic reputation?

Jim, thanks for the comment that it is "easier"
to organize things on github than on sourceforge:

My impression of git compared to svn is that the
use of random hex numbers instead of sequential
version numbers makes it very hard for me to get
an overview what happened when in projects seen
on the website, am I missing something?

Mercury, I thought bitbucket was a relatively
unstructured place to "just upload files"?

> You mention a 2.88 MB floppy image of an old DOS distro by Rugxulo.

Because almost nobody has real 2.88 MB drives,
the purpose of this image is using it as the
virtual boot floppy for boot CD or DVD: It is
sometimes more elegant to use a real floppy
size image than a harddisk image for booting.

As you say, with a suitable boot loader, even
arbitrary geometry harddisk images will work,
but the standard for CD / DVD boot includes
pre-configured categories for floppy size :-)

Having no SVN, CVS, GIT, HG for DOS tells me
that we are stuck to cross-compilers or people
who just download in other OS, then use in DOS?

Bryan, of course I can give explanations about
all those files, either by chat or email, or
answer questions about individual files :-)

Let me know whether YOU need a list and for
which of the directories on the website, then
I can mail it to you. Or would you recommend
to send a list (for some or all directories?)
to the mailing list instead? Also possible.

Regards, Eric



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