Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2021-01-09 Thread Šimon Dobeš
That's good answer. I thought the Laptop have its own regulator built in!

Dňa so, 9. jan 2021, 8:56 Mateusz Viste  napísal(a):

> Note that running a laptop with no battery is not necessarily a good
> idea - some laptops rely on the battery to act as a voltage regulator.
> Running a laptop without its aku pack is how I fried a RAM bank in my
> Toshiba T1100 a couple of years ago. I realized too late that the power
> supply was delivering a much higher voltage than what the laptop
> expected, and needed to be brought down by the battery not to damage
> anything. More recent constructions are probably sturdier, but one
> should be careful nonetheless.
>
> Mateusz
>
>
>
> On 09/01/2021 08:46, Šimon Dobeš wrote:
> > OK
> > I will try to explain more properly. I plugged in my Laptop. Pushed down
> > the power button and nothing happened. I cleaned up and I did not found
> > anything leaked or broken. I think there is a problem with power supply
> > or some circuits. I will keep finding. I have also a battery pack for
> > that Laptop too but I am not using since those batteries are way old to
> > handle all operations and may explode.
> > Simon
> >
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> > Predmet: Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
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> >> On 1/8/2021 8:28 AM, Šimon Dobeš wrote:
> >>> Hello
> >>> I want to ask if FREEDOS will run on Intel Pentium old-school PC from
> >>> 2002 and if it will work properly if this pc have 256 mb of ram.
> >>> I have a old IBM ThinkPad from 1998 and it is great computer. But it
> >>> is not working. Where I can fix it?
> >>
> >> Well, as others already mentioned, there is no reason why FreeDOS
> >> would NOT run on such a PC. More RAM that you would probably need, but
> >> not a problem either.
> >>
> >> What however is a problem here is that "it is not working" is not a
> >> proper problem description. You need to be far more
> >> precise/descriptive of what exactly you are trying to do and what the
> >> results are. We can not look over your shoulder, and there simply is
> >> not enough information to even make an educated guess...
> >>
> >> Ralf
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject) - OS for 2002 Pentium PC

2021-01-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Šimon Dobeš,

> Almost I forgot.
> If I will install FreeDOS on that pentium PC that have about 60 GB of
> Hard Disk. May I been able to install some Windows OS? (e.g. Windows 95,
> 98, 2000)

You can even install a current Linux on 60 GB without
problems, but many modern apps will run very slowly
because you only have 256 MB RAM. Note that after 2018,
some Linux versions started to require 64-bit processors
and others require at least a processor with MMX or SSE.

As you can see here, a number of special Linux distributions
specifically select lightweight components to run WELL on a
computer which does not have much RAM:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-weight_Linux_distribution

For example Puppy Linux from 2017 is listed as "256 MB RAM,
download size 234 MB".

Wikipedia writes that Windows 2000 needs at least a Pentium
with free 1 GB harddisk space and 32 MB RAM, but recommends
128 MB RAM and 5 GB harddisk space. So that easily works and
of course also older Windows 95 or 98. However, they all have
not received updates for decades any most modern apps will not
work on ancient Windows versions. So you will not have a lot
of fun with old Windows. And it easily gets hacked or infected
by computer viruses because of the missing security updates.

So have fun with FreeDOS and Linux instead :-) Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject) - problem with 1998 laptop

2021-01-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Šimon,

> OK
> I will try to explain more properly. I plugged in my Laptop. Pushed down
> the power button and nothing happened. I cleaned up and I did not found
> anything leaked or broken. I think there is a problem with power supply

In my experience with laptops of people I know, the most
common reasons for this are:

- the battery was dead (main battery or CMOS / clock battery)

- the charger / power supply socket no longer made good contact,
  so while you believe everything is connected, no power arrives

- the charger / power supply no longer worked at all (quite often!)

- or, unlikely, you had to reset the CMOS settings or reinstall the OS

> or some circuits. I will keep finding. I have also a battery pack for
> that Laptop too but I am not using since those batteries are way old to
> handle all operations and may explode.
> Simon

As Mateusz explains, it may still be better to connect the battery,
even if the battery is so weak that your computer switches off a
few seconds after you disconnect the power supply from the AC socket.

Luckily, it is easy to get replacement power supply "bricks". Some
are sold with all sorts of connectors and with adjustable voltage.

You have to make sure to use the right voltage, polarity and plug!
Wrong power replacement choices can permanently damage your laptop.

Regards, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

2021-01-09 Thread Bryan Kilgallin

Dear Jim:

Mark your calendars for *Sunday, 24 January, 2021* at *11am 
US/Central*.


That is 4 AM Monday, AEDT!

*Yes, we'll have another one after that. Plan on the February 
get-together for Sunday, 21 February, 2021. Same time, same place.


I might want to attend a life drawing session that afternoon, instead.
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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2021-01-09 Thread Ralf Quint

On 1/8/2021 11:46 PM, Šimon Dobeš wrote:

OK
I will try to explain more properly. I plugged in my Laptop. Pushed 
down the power button and nothing happened. I cleaned up and I did not 
found anything leaked or broken. I think there is a problem with power 
supply or some circuits. I will keep finding. I have also a battery 
pack for that Laptop too but I am not using since those batteries are 
way old to handle all operations and may explode. 


OK, so nothing that has do with FreeDOS then...

Ralf



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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2021-01-09 Thread Ralf Quint

On 1/8/2021 11:54 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
Note that running a laptop with no battery is not necessarily a good 
idea - some laptops rely on the battery to act as a voltage regulator. 
Running a laptop without its aku pack is how I fried a RAM bank in my 
Toshiba T1100 a couple of years ago. I realized too late that the 
power supply was delivering a much higher voltage than what the laptop 
expected, and needed to be brought down by the battery not to damage 
anything. More recent constructions are probably sturdier, but one 
should be careful nonetheless. 


Not necessarily. As a laptop with a full charge battery should not be 
power through the battery when connected to the mains. And for what it 
is worth, I have one Dell laptop that I am running for more than 10 
years now without an inserted battery, as the charging circuit is not 
operational. But it works just fine, with a great 1600x1280 screen, when 
just ran off the AC adapter.


But then this is a pure hardware issue, and nothing related to FreeDOS...

Ralf



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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

2021-01-09 Thread Ralf Quint

On 1/9/2021 6:11 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:

Dear Jim:


Mark your calendars for *Sunday, 24 January, 2021* at *11am US/Central*.


That is 4 AM Monday, AEDT! 


As was mentioned before, it is pretty much impossible to find a time 
that works FOR EVERYONE. If we (Jim) would select a time that would be 
more suitable for you down under, some people in Europe might than have 
the same problem as you...


Ralf



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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Virtual Get-together

2021-01-09 Thread Jim Hall
> On 1/9/2021 6:11 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
> > Dear Jim:
> >
> >> Jim Hall wrote:
> >> Mark your calendars for *Sunday, 24 January, 2021* at *11am US/Central*.
> >
> > That is 4 AM Monday, AEDT!
>

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 4:48 PM Ralf Quint  wrote:
>
> As was mentioned before, it is pretty much impossible to find a time
> that works FOR EVERYONE. If we (Jim) would select a time that would be
> more suitable for you down under, some people in Europe might than have
> the same problem as you...
>


Yes, unfortunately the Earth is a sphere so it is not daylight for
everyone at the same time.

I can't find a perfect time that works for *everyone* in freedos-user.


Jim


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