[Freedos-user] DOSHEXED - memory bug

2022-01-12 Thread Michał Dec

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to edit different files with DOSHEXED from FreeDOS 1.3RC5 CD 
and it's just disappointing. This editor will complain it's out of 
memory if we're trying to open a file that won't entirely fit into the 
leftover conventional memory (<1MiB). I tried editing LOTUS.DAT (approx 
1.4MB, from Lotus 3: The Ultimate Challenge) and Stargunner's SETUP.EXE. 
Luckily the second one fits, given you don't load too many drivers in 
DOS. Is there any other hex editor for FreeDOS, which works a lot better?


Best regards,

Michał



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Re: [Freedos-user] DOSHEXED - memory bug

2022-01-12 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, 

> On Jan 12, 2022, at 8:58 AM, Michał Dec  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm trying to edit different files with DOSHEXED from FreeDOS 1.3RC5 CD and 
> it's just disappointing. This editor will complain it's out of memory if 
> we're trying to open a file that won't entirely fit into the leftover 
> conventional memory (<1MiB). I tried editing LOTUS.DAT (approx 1.4MB, from 
> Lotus 3: The Ultimate Challenge) and Stargunner's SETUP.EXE. Luckily the 
> second one fits, given you don't load too many drivers in DOS. Is there any 
> other hex editor for FreeDOS, which works a lot better?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Michał

Don’t know about feature comparison. But, UHEX works well enough for most of 
the stuff I need from a hex editor.

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Re: [Freedos-user] DOSHEXED - memory bug

2022-01-12 Thread Mateusz Viste

On 12/01/2022 14:58, Michał Dec wrote:

Is there any other hex editor for FreeDOS


You might want to try uHex. Requires some 20 KiB of RAM and handles 
files up to 2 GiB.


IIRC it is shipped with FreeDOS, but if not then you will find it here: 
http://uhex.sourceforge.net/


Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be mantained

2022-01-12 Thread Dan Schmidt
Good to know, it used to be unstable.

Well, I shall be quite darned.  A post on the Lynx forum (strange place for
it) says Arachne and DosLynx have returned from the dead.  Somebody should
keep a list somewhere of currently maintained DOS browsers.

http://macall.net/info.htm
http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=18569

In the unlikely case that somebody stumbles upon this threat looking for
advice, my two cents follow:
If you only try one, try Links.  That said, although it's harder to set up
(infernal options that don't save unless you edit config), Lynx (the
original, I haven't tried DosLynx yet) is rock solid and you can also surf
the nearly forgotten gopher tunnels that live just under the surface of the
www. They both do TLS just fine.



On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 5:22 PM Louis Santillan  wrote:

> Yes.  In DOS, in Linux, in Mac`links -g` works great for me.
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 8:17 PM Dan Schmidt  wrote:
>
>> Have you tried links -g ?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:11 PM Louis Santillan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven’t had many crashes in Links2 in normal browsing.  I have been
>>> able to make it crash calling out to external programs or by shelling out
>>> and trying to return to the browser.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:17 AM Dan Schmidt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Links and Lynx both do TLS currently on DOS.  Links will even do
 images, but it's prone to crash in gui mode.

 On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 2:09 AM Louis Santillan 
 wrote:

> Doesn't Links2 do TLS?
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 3:45 PM Jim Hall  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 6:28 PM Jose Senna  wrote:
>> >
>> > Liam Proven said:
>> > > There were DOS email and chat and FTP
>> > > clients; that stuff's fairly easy.
>> >
>> > Were is the right word. Most email
>> > servers nowadays require TLS, which
>> > is not available in DOS email clients.
>> > There are few remaining FTP servers,
>> > and I cannot tell how many also need
>> > TLS.
>>
>>
>> That's why I made sure you can access the FreeDOS website from
>> http://www.freedos.org/ and https://www.freedos.org
>>
>> If you're using a DOS web browser, I don't think any DOS web browser
>> can manage today's SSL, so you need http instead of https.
>>
>> But the links from freedos.org to other websites mostly use https, I
>> think. Because not everyone wants to set up both http and https for a
>> website.
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] DOSHEXED - memory bug

2022-01-12 Thread tom ehlert


> On 12/01/2022 14:58, Michał Dec wrote:
>> Is there any other hex editor for FreeDOS

> You might want to try uHex. Requires some 20 KiB of RAM and handles 
> files up to 2 GiB.

use int 21, 6C EXTENDED OPEN/CREATE and you can handle 4GiB.



> IIRC it is shipped with FreeDOS, but if not then you will find it here:
> http://uhex.sourceforge.net/

> Mateusz

Tom



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Re: [Freedos-user] DOSHEXED - memory bug

2022-01-12 Thread Mateusz Viste

On 12/01/2022 18:22, tom ehlert wrote:

You might want to try uHex. Requires some 20 KiB of RAM and handles
files up to 2 GiB.


use int 21, 6C EXTENDED OPEN/CREATE and you can handle 4GiB.


Sure, but that's not very portable code. And it is not enough anyway. To 
handle 4 GB one would also need to:

 - replace all 'long' position tracking variables by unsigned long
 - handle errors in a different way (than passing -1)
 - use a non-portable construct to replace fseek()
 - and probably more that I don't think about right away

Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] DOSHEXED - memory bug

2022-01-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 7:59 AM Michał Dec  wrote:
>
> Is there any other hex editor for FreeDOS, which works a lot better?

Try this:

* https://www.sac.sk/download/utilprog/hiew650.zip

This is the well-known "freeware" Hacker's View (HIEW) hex editor.
IIRC, its built-in disassembler can handle up through Pentium III.

There are others like BIEW/BEYE and QVIEW, both with sources, that try
to mimic the same interface and features.

* https://sourceforge.net/projects/beye/files/biew/6.1.0/
* https://sourceforge.net/p/beye/bugs/38/
* https://www.sac.sk/download/utilprog/biew562.arj

* https://www.sac.sk/download/utilprog/qv291src.zip

I still use HIEW a lot, it's pretty rock solid. I have used the others
occasionally, but I can't say they're quite bug-free. Your mileage may
vary. (If you want automated hex editing for batch files, I have other
tools in MetaDOS. I also added recompiling BIEW as one of my tests.)

Just FYI.


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