Re: [Freedos-user] License or Sale? WAS Abandonware site...
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 14:52 -0400, Fuzzy Zabriskie wrote: Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:21:27 +0200 From: bbla...@home.nl To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] License or Sale? WAS Abandonware site... Fuzzy Zabriskie schreef: I'm confused. When I buy a 'software license' am I buying the software or the right to use the software? If I have a license to use specific software on a hardware platform (say a Windows OS), and my install media is damaged, do I have use of the license I've bought? Can I legally obtain new media and use my existing license key to install it? By MS's definitions you're buying the right to use the software in ways they allow, as defined in their license. If you would be able to buy their Windows product instead of just a license to use, you could do with that whatever you wanted, including mass-copying and making money of it bigtime. Something they're not happy with and thus disallow. The license to use is because it's software instead of a physical product (which you normally buy instead of just a usage license) My reading of the EULA seems to say I'm buying the right to use it, and the media is provided so I can use the right I bought. Any copy of the retail OEM install disk can be used with the key asssociated with correct version license. M$ seems to be saying its not a '1st use' copyrighted work. If so, would that not mean assuming I have a legal key I could download/buy/copy install media to use it? Yes you can use whichever installation media you want with your legally obtained/purchased valid license, no matter the source. Many computers with Vista allow downgrading to XP but don't provide the files somehow. Kinda annoying :). Would be quite nice if you could download a copy of Windows from MS's website by entering your license key..instead they just send you a snailmail cdrom in a week's time or so. Oh well. Thank you... thats pretty much what I thought. personally, I think Vista is a downgrade from XP ;). I opted for XP on my laptop. My father's new laptop came with Vista :(. Boy its, annoying to have to reply 2 or 3 times to every action. I hope UAC is removed from WIN7. Dumb thing didn't even come with restore disks, never mind real install disks. I had to talk to customer support to get them to send him the restore disks. I'd rather they charged a few dollars more and included the disks. *sigh* I usually just linger trying to learn. A couple of things though; 1. You can easily turn off UAC if you do not like it. 2. Most new computers have a partition with the OS on it and a utility to allow you to make a set of CD's. Dan -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] License or Sale? WAS Abandonware site...
Go to this link, http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm here are 4 ways to turn it off. I usually use option 4. Microsoft will provide you with replacement media, I am guessing $20.00 or so. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246 Dan On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 17:27 -0400, Fuzzy Zabriskie wrote: I usually just linger trying to learn. A couple of things though; 1. You can easily turn off UAC if you do not like it. nods. Is that an option with TweakVI or a special utility? Can the constant 'its not on' messages be suppressed? 2. Most new computers have a partition with the OS on it and a utility to allow you to make a set of CD's. Dan It did but the media was bad :(. the program then refused to rerun them. I guess the powers-that-be never heard of of optical disk getting scratched or being defective, or hard drives crashing. I did explain the bad media issue, and the mfg was willing to snailmail a set so I guess if one complains one can can get them. I even asked if there was a registry tweak to tell the program to forget the set was made, (so as to recreate them). They also told me the disks they were sending could not be imaged even on a unix-like OS using dd, that didn't seem reasonable either. If the OS isn't sold but licensed, why restrict a legal reinstall due to hardware crash? Aren't they OEM versions supposed to be tied to the hardware? I can image the hard drive with Acronis True Image Home to an external hard drive and use its bootable media to restore that image. Why try to keep a user from imaging the recovery disks? They are hardware dependant anyway. -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Volunteer wanted to install FreeDOS 1.0 on aWindowsXP computer
Sign me up. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:29 PM Subject: [Freedos-user] Volunteer wanted to install FreeDOS 1.0 on aWindowsXP computer Good day, everyone: Since FreeDOS1.0 has been released, I've been working on my detailed procedure to add FreeDOS to a WindowsXP computer. FreeDOS can be pretty easily installed on a WindowsXP computer without having to re-install WindowsXP. I am looking for a volunteer or two to help with the new version of the procedure. It is easier now due to improvements in the GParted program. The whole process takes an hour or two and results in a computer that can run FreeDOS or WindowsXP. There is an older version of the procedure on http://odin.fdos.org/dual/ (see fdinst091.pdf) if you would like to get an idea what is involved. The new procedure is a bit easier. The CD to do this is about a 35 MiByte download. Let me know if you are willing to test this and help me refine the procedure. Thanks. Mark Bailey - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user