Re: [Freedos-user] HP 2133
Well, i understand. In that case, do you have any linux distribution suggestions for this low-end CPU and GPU??? Em dom., 18 de abr. de 2021 às 10:33, Eric Auer escreveu: > > Hello Marcolino, > > > Apologize me for not being very specific, but i was going to ask about > > sound drivers. My main idea is to use it for retrogaming, altough i'd > > like to know if i could use an Image Viewer or even a Media Player. > > Maybe even a eReader. > > You could probably use a media player and image viewer, as some with > current updates exist. They might support AC97 and/or HDA sound with > some common chipsets, but probably not a wide coverage of chipsets. > > > It's a shame however, since my idea was to play classic games in FreeDOS > > (in special The Elder Scrolls), but since no Sound Driver for Soundmax > > AD1984A exist, it won't be very worthful. > > https://www.analog.com/en/products/ad1984.html#product-overview says > this is a HDA codec chip. I believe in HDA, you consider codecs and > the chip which provides the bus separately, but let me know whether > you get it to work in http://mpxplay.sourceforge.net/ or similar. > > For games, there are various work-arounds. A good way would be to > run Linux and open a DOSEMU2 window there ;-) Of course, you could > also use generic virtual PC apps like QEMU. Or you can use DOSBOX, > which again is specifically for DOS apps, or use Windows as host OS > instead of Linux. But DOSEMU2 probably works pretty well for you. > > Another way could be to use DOSBOX-X which you can interestingly run > as a DOS app, using Japheth's HX DOS extender! So it lets you run a > simulation of DOS inside a real DOS, giving you the ability to throw > in some additional hardware emulations. > > Some very recent thing is that the source code of the VBE/AI SDK has > been made open source: This is for an audio extension for VESA VBE > which, while few graphics cards supported it in DOS times, does have > support in a number of 1990s DOS games. So people will soon be able > to write a "driver" which provides VBE/AI BIOS services to help old > games to send sound data to modern sound hardware by using existing > hardware driver source code for example from Linux. Still, this will > be a rather complex project, so do not hold your breath. > > There also is the ancient VSB (virtual sound blaster) project which > uses protected mode to grab attempts of games to communicate with > the sound card in order to pretend that you have a very simplified > sound blaster even if you have none. In the original version, the > sound is then output via printer port D/A if I remember correctly. > Also known as Covox. Again, this could be combined with code from > modern sound drivers to simulate a sound blaster and make the sound > audible on modern hardware. Actually SB LIVE and SB PCI sound cards > used similar strategies to "pretend to be soundblaster compatible". > > I think the easiest way would be to use Linux and DOSEMU2 or similar > "apps which run DOS and/or DOS apps in windows, while emulating some > classic hardware which classic games expect to exist" :-) Of course > it will be less "real", but even with your HP 2133, speed should be > sufficient for a simulation instead of running directly on hardware. > > Regards, Eric > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HP 2133
Hello Eric. Apologize me for not being very specific, but i was going to ask about sound drivers. My main idea is to use it for retrogaming, altough i'd like to know if i could use an Image Viewer or even a Media Player. Maybe even a eReader. It's a shame however, since my idea was to play classic games in FreeDOS (in special The Elder Scrolls), but since no Sound Driver for Soundmax AD1984A exist, it won't be very worthful. Em dom., 18 de abr. de 2021 às 09:52, Eric Auer escreveu: > > Hi Marcolino, > > > I've restored an HP 2133 Mini-Note PC recently and i've > > installed FreeDOS on it. > > > > Is there some driver compatible with this laptop? > > If you could tell us which components you cannot use > at the moment because you are looking for DOS drivers, > I could give a more specific answer. > > As https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_2133_Mini-Note_PC > says, those laptops have 512 MB to 2 GB of RAM, between > 4 GB SSD and 160 GB harddisk, 1280x768 or 1024x600 LCD, > VIA Chrome 9 graphics (using a part of the normal RAM) > and a VIA C7 CPU. Touchpad, keyboard, microphone, VGA > webcam, WLAN, LAN, Bluetooth, USB, ExpressCard slot and > microphone / headphone jacks etc. > > You can expect that WLAN, Bluetooth and webcam will not > be supported in DOS. Your sound will probably only work > with very few modern apps such as MPXPLAY media player. > > Most old games have drivers built-in, so sound drivers > are not something provided by the operating system. It > also means that they can only use very old sound cards. > > Using your RAM, SSD, harddisk, processor and keyboard is > not expected to be any problem for DOS. For USB and LAN, > various drivers exist, but I would have to know which > controllers your computer has to be able to think about > whether a DOS driver for those exists. > > > What am i able to do with FreeDOS besides playing old games? > > If you look at the mailing list archives, you will see > that we had a thread earlier this month where people > exchanged some thoughts and memories about what they > are and have been doing with DOS :-) > > > Is there some way to emulate Graphics Cards? > > As you can already use DOS, my question would be why > you want to emulate which graphics card. I can imagine > that many DOS apps (in particular games) use graphics > at 4:3 aspect ratio while your screen is roughly 16:10 > so you will get black bars, distortion or fuzzy images. > > You probably have hotkeys, similar to EEE PC, which let > your BIOS cycle between different methods to deal with > screen size to graphics resolution mismatches. > > What are the abilities of your graphics system in DOS? > Do VESA graphics modes work? How about VBE and linear > framebuffers (LFB) in games? Is VGA compatibility okay? > How about EGA or even CGA for older games? > > Either way, the extra acceleration features (for example > for 3d or video) of your hardware are probably not used > by DOS at all, so you neither have nor need drivers here. > > If you connect an external screen, you will probably be > able to use the higher resolutions available there, but > probably limited to 1080p and below given the age of the > computer and the (graphics) BIOS which comes with it? > > Regards, Eric > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] HP 2133
Hello! I've restored an HP 2133 Mini-Note PC recently and i've installed FreeDOS on it. Is there some driver compatible with this laptop? What am i able to do with FreeDOS besides playing old games? Is there some way to emulate Graphics Cards? Thank you. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
