Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG - New version, new features

2013-06-20 Thread escape
On 19.06.13 23:07, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> I'm happy to announce the release of a new version of my FreeDOS package 
> manager - FDNPKG v0.94.
> 
> Big changes: this new version brings support for offline (on disk) 
> repositories, and update features (FDNPKG is able to update itself now).

Great! This is really welcome feature addition. As you as you could see,
earlier in the list, people start writing their own tools for this
purpose. Very nice indeed.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: New release of XFDOS graphical FreeDOSdistribution

2013-03-31 Thread escape
On 30.03.13 15:13, José Antonio wrote:
> Decompresing of .iso & .txt OK but the CD generated fails.
> 
> I have tried with k3b and another tool but both fails.

You should use k3b's "Burn Image" function. Then it works as expected.

> 
> Hard Disk version ok.
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] hexed10g.zip

2013-02-18 Thread escape
On 18.02.13 04:01, Chris Evans wrote:
> doshexed -  HexEd v1.0g new version released this one works on #linux 
> and #freedos
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/doshexed/files/

Refused to work on openSUSE 12.2:

~>bin/hexed
HEXED v.1.1a
(c) 2013 Christopher Robert Evans

Segmentation fault



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Re: [Freedos-user] New XFDOS FreeDOS distribution

2012-08-06 Thread escape
On 06.08.12 00:35, nospam wrote:
> yes, Robert also found that the ISO image will not run with VMware and 
> VirtualPC. I had tested it with Bochs and that did work. I agree that you 
> can use Bochs mainly for development because it is slow.

I've tested image with VirtualBox and it runs just fine. Here's the
screenshot:
http://storage1.static.itmages.ru/i/12/0806/h_1344249650_5665269_44f958fd52.png
Next step is to give it a try on my real boxes.




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[Freedos-user] GRUB 2.00 Freedos support

2012-06-28 Thread escape
With release of the GNU GRUB version 2.00, Freedos is now supported
among other boot protocols. Besides technical improvements it is
important to know that Freedos is considered worth the efforts put in
development, not only by subscribers of freedos-* lists, but also by
developers from other projects. Full announce here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2012-06/msg00093.html

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Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-22 Thread escape
I was about to post bugreport at VirtualBox bugtracker, but decided to
double-check the issue first. On my system floppy images change are
correctly recognized. VirtualBox 4.1.4-3.2.3 OSE OpenSUSE 12.1.

On 16.05.12 19:33, Wolfgang Schechinger wrote:
> Dear experts, 
> 
> I have some floppy images I want to use with FreeDos that is running in a VM 
> (VirtualBox). The images work fine with e.g. Windows in such an environment.
> 
> However with the virtual FreeDos, disk changes are not recognized: Only the 
> first Image that has been used after boot is show with e.g. dir, even when 
> the image has been remove or replaced.
> 
> I suppose that the problem is how to tell FreeDos that the disk has changed.
> 
> Anything I could do?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Wo
> 
> PS The host system is Opensuse Linux 11.4


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Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-13 Thread escape

On 12.04.12 20:38, dmccunney wrote:
> I just made a post amending my statement.
Ok, but still it has nothing common with DOS itself. Because:

> I amend my statement: they'll boot DOS if you jump through an
> assortment of hoops to get them to do so.  I got FreeDOS to boot
> alongside Win2K and two flavors of Linux on an old notebook, but it
> took lots of fiddling (and I'm not sure just *which* fiddle did the
> trick.  I was multi-booting from Grub2.
It's clearly not a DOS problem. Multiboot setup *must* be carefully
planned and deployed, and on every step you *must* clearly understand
what you are about to do. Or else you'll end up with "lots of fiddling",
being "not sure just *which* fiddle did the trick". Also worth
mentioning that GRUB2 is a way more complex to configure than GRUB-legacy.

> A subsequent clean re-install of Win2K to solve other problems broke
> it.  I could get grub and my grub config back, but FreeDOS won't boot,
> claiming it can't find KERNEL.SYS.  (And yes, I'm using a current
> kernel, SYSed to the correct place from a FreeDOS boot floppy.)  I can
> successfully run DOS apps in a Win2K console window, so fixing it
> isn't exactly urgent.
It is well-known behaviour of Windows, to destroy any other single or
multi-OS boot schemes, replacing it with it's own bootloader. Also GRUB2
is related in your particular case. But it's even less related to DOS
than previous statement, as *any* OS can be victim in such scenario.

> But if you are going to boot DOS on current hardware, you are likely
> to be multi-booting, with other things like Windows and Linux in the
> mix.  That may require plain and fancy fiddling: what's your
> boot-loader?  How do you successfully add DOS to the list of things it
> can boot?
I'm using GRUB-legacy. And for GRUB-legacy adding FreeDOS is as easy as
adding 3 lines to /boot/grub/menu.lst:
title FreeDOS 1.0
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader /freedos.bss

> One question to ask is what you are doing, and whether you actually
> need to boot into DOS from the BIOS level at all.  Epending upon your
> use case, it may make more sense to use an emulator or VM.
There is no silver bullet. And while using an emulator or VM can be
sufficient for many of the cases, they have their own downsides.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-12 Thread escape
On 11.04.12 22:23, dmccunney wrote:
> Current machines won't *boot* DOS, but will *run* it in a
> compatibility box,  emulator or virtual machine.

I'm think you're making a bit misleading statement. While there *are*
current machines that won't boot DOS, 99% of the *current* machines can
boot it. The main concern is UEFI based motherboards that lacks BIOS
compatibility module. And  while at some point in the future they could
outnumber BIOS based motherboards, this is definitely not the case today.

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[Freedos-user] FFmpeg and x264 for DOS

2012-01-09 Thread escape
I don't know if anyone aware of following link, but I was really amazed
when I stumbled upon it. DOS not just "not dead", it fights back! So
here it is. FFmpeg and x264 video encoders port for DOS/DJGPP:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffmpeg-x264-dos/

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Re: [Freedos-user] AST Research drivers

2011-12-25 Thread escape
You can try to contact "total hardware resurrection" project:
http://th2r.no-ip.info/
As description says: "The purposes are filling up the devices data base,
adding not only documentations and photos but drivers too."


On 17.12.11 02:27, Jeffrey wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
>  About a year and a half ago, the last website offering support for AST 
> research computers went down.
> Because have an AST 80386, I downloaded all the drivers and files before that 
> happened.  Would it be legal
> for you to host them?  AST is now defunct, and they had a large market share 
> back in the day,
> so I'm sure many people would find them useful.
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Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDos_install-with linux

2011-12-07 Thread escape
First of all you'd better NOT mess windows and linux on the same
partition. Second, having each OS on it's own partition, you can use
almost any bootmanager you coose.

But your current setup is atypical and you must correct next snippets
according to it.
Find GRUB4DOS configuration file menu.ls. For example C:\menu.lst
add
title FreeDOS 1.0
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader /freedos.bss

for booting via saved boot sector,
or
title FreeDOS 1.0
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader /KERNEL.SYS

for booting KERNEL.SYS directly from GRUB4DOS.
Pay attention to "hd0,0", you must change it to your actual DOS-partition.


On 07.12.11 05:29, Garry Ricketson wrote:
> Hello all,
>  I just resized my partition, and created a partition for FreeDos, and
> installed it new, it installed fine,
> However, here is my question, the partition with windowsXP and linux, (
> when I installed linux, I just installed it under windows,..), of it is
> useing grub for dos, so it boots with those 2 options, windows or Linux,
>  When I installed Linux Mint 10,(juliet), it set that up
> automaticly,...Now, dose anyone one know how I can add the FreeDos
> partition, to this,so it is also a option, I know nothing about Grub for
> Dos,..practicaly, is there a way to "edit" that,..or what do you all
> think my best option is ? Before, I had been useing XOSL, I am thinking
> about installing it again, but it seems like, some time ago, I tried
> useing it with some other partitions, that were useing grub for dos, and
> it didn't work out to good.
>  Thanks, from garry
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS boot problem

2011-11-19 Thread escape

Generally it really should work with
C:\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS"

The problem is you gave almost no information on what's going on. How
had you created partition? How had you installed FreeDOS and what drive
was selected during install? What happened after install? What happened
after you added C:\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS" to boot.ini? After you added
D:\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS"? And so on. Given that just a few blind shots:

- Check in BIOS Setup, that your SATA HDC is in "IDE" or "Compatible" or
some similarly named mode. And not in "AHCI" or "RAID".
- Double-check that boot sector is indeed named FDOSBOOT.BIN and not
FREEDOS.BSS, for example, and located at root directory.
- Find out onto which drive you've installed FreeDOS. You can get your
hard drive partition info by running fdisk /status from FreeDOS
installation CD.

And you'd better don't mess with MBR as it is nothing close to boot.ini.

On 19.11.11 20:14, wayne phenneger wrote:
> I just installed FreeDOS on a newly created fat32 partition on my sata
> hd. The other partitions are in ntfs and running Windows XP. Since
> FreeDOS doesnt see XP it didnt edit my boot.ini. I have been trying to
> code it myself with such things as:
>  
> C:\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS"
> D:\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS"
> X:\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS"
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS"
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS"
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\FDOSBOOT.BIN="FreeDOS"
>  
> without any luck...
>  
>  I also tried to use partition logic to rewrite my mbr, but since it is
> a sata drive it is not supported.
>  
> Can anyone help either with code for boot.ini or with a tool that will
> rewrite my mbr??? PLZ?
>  
> Try to keep in mind that I have spent three days looking for answers on
> my own so I probably sound smarter than I really am..haha...
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
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Re: [Freedos-user] FTP Server testing needed

2011-09-29 Thread escape
Works with Filezilla/Linux, lukemftp, ncftp, but fails to retrieve
directory listing in Midnight Commander, Krusader and Dolphin - upon
connection shows empty filelist. Also I was unable to delete file
TEST.TXT uploaded to /INCOMING, despite its rwxrwxrwx permissions, but I
suspect this could be some restriction in server config:

Command:DELE TEST.TXT
Response:   550 permission denied


On 29.09.11 16:37, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
> 
> I have made a large round of improvements to the FTP server in mTCP and 
> I am looking for a little testing help with it.  If you have a few spare 
> moments over the next day or two just try to connect to it and browse 
> the file structure.  Using a few different clients will help me shake 
> out any new bugs.  Upload some relevant files if you are adventurous.
> 
> It can be reached at ftp://96.42.66.188:2021/ - if you are using a 
> browser that URL should work as-is.  For command line clients just take 
> note of the non-standard port number.  The FTP server is running on the 
> slowest machine that I have, which is a PCjr; it if runs well on that, 
> it will run well on anything you probably have.  (If you want to see the 
> actual machine it is running on look at THISPCJR.JPG in the root directory.)
> 
> Changes for this version include:
> 
> - scanning for valid drive letters at startup to avoid errors when 
> touching floppy drives
> - a major rework of directory handling if you are not an anonymous 
> user.  Drive letters now look like part of a normal Unix path so that 
> the smarter FTP clients don't get confused by the drive letters and path 
> delimiters.
> - The flow control problem with FileZilla is now understood and fixed
> - The wrong file date problem with FileZilla is fixed
> - There is a new "message of the day" feature for putting up special 
> notices at login time
> - The local user interface is redesigned and little more friendly
> - Better error checking on the password file
> 
> All if this will be part of the next mTCP release, which I'm targeting 
> for the next week.  Getting some testing time on it is a good thing ...
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] dos backups in the 21st century?

2011-09-01 Thread escape


On 30.08.11 16:16, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
> On a slightly related topic, I've been thinking about what to do on the 
> smaller machines to increase the amount of working storage.  With a 
> strict programming API I can use temp files as backing storage, kind of 
> like implementing bank switched memory but backed by hard disk storage 
> instead.  Pretty slow, but better than not having any extra memory 
> storage.  One thing that frustrates me is that there is no way to make a 
> 'bad' pointer on an 8088.  Sure, the pointer can point to garbage, but 
> there is no way to create a pointer that forces an interrupt.  That 
> would help things tremendously, especially when it comes to the part 
> about testing and making the code robust.  (It can be done with some 
> extra hardware, but I don't think I'm that crazy yet.)  Why the 
> interested in memory allocation?  I suspect that things like rsync are 
> going to be limited by memory ...

There is related article on using virtual memory For 640K DOS
programming on Digital Mars site:
http://www.digitalmars.com/ctg/vcm.html Hope it could find some
interesting points there.

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Re: [Freedos-user] dos backups in the 21st century?

2011-08-29 Thread escape

On 29.08.11 01:03, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
> On 8/25/2011 6:20 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM, escape  wrote:
>>> If you use dos  alone and purely on your machine, but nevertheless have
>>> some *nix server access you can use rsync client for dos:
>>> http://www.2net.co.uk/rsync.html
>> Good, GPL. Interesting, works on 8086 (Borland C 3.1) w/ only 640 kb RAM.   
>> ;-)
>>
> 
> Rsync!  Neat ...
> 
> And probably easily ported to use mTCP instead, probably with a 
> performance improvement ..

Great to hear, as mTCP becoming "all-you-need-for-dos-networking" solution.
BTW what do you think about how hard it wiil be to implement DOS-based
rsync server, even if feature-limited?


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Re: [Freedos-user] dos backups in the 21st century?

2011-08-16 Thread escape
If you use dos  alone and purely on your machine, but nevertheless have
some *nix server access you can use rsync client for dos:
http://www.2net.co.uk/rsync.html
If it is the case, than probably this will be the best solution, as
rsync is one of the most widely used tools for backups.

BTW this rsync client is distributed under GPL, so why it's still not in
FreeDOS distribution, or I'm missing something?


On 16.08.11 01:12, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> A question mainly for those who use dos  alone and purely on your 
> machines.
> Given the size of hard rives, using trusty pkip to create a set of backup 
> discs  is well not possible.
> The nice thing about functional usb drivers is of course that one can attach 
> an external drive for this, and I guess? still use pkzip for the purpose?
> I understand one can make an image too in dos.
> After having a major hard drive scare today though, and with my use of a 
> dsl modem to a network having a a touch worried about security too, I am 
> asking how you do large backup work yourself now? say 3 gig or so?
> Thanks,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Code pages in dot-matrix printers

2011-05-05 Thread escape
Hi,
I have some sources for graphical printing onto Epson FX-80 compatible
printers and and for converting fonts to/from binary representation for
this program. While there is no distinctive license present, it seems
like phrase "these sources can be freely used and modified" puts it into
public domain. Also there is much more powerful program, that was widely
used while dot-matrix printing was still actual. It shows full preview
of what going to be printed, allows you to print in graphics for quality
and different fonts styles and sizes or to upload fonts in printer for
faster printing, if printer support it, break text into pages,
auto-numerate pages and there is even more useful features. But there is
no license or even mention of terms of use at all. And what is worse,
there is no sources for it. If you interested, I can send you both, as
they can be evaluated even without printer, but be prepared for comments
in sources, documentation and interface all in Russian.


On 06.05.11 03:09, Eric Auer wrote:
> 
> Hi Henrique, Bret,
> 
>> interesting to know that there's someone out there, familiar to FreeDOS, 
>> still using those 9-pin printers. At least here in Brazil they're still 
>> used on lots of places because of their low operational cost.
>>
>> Well, Eric and Konstantyn... So much for the museum idea!
> 
> Well... We had a 24 pin printer 20 years ago and I patched some closed
> source tools which were hardcoded for a 9 pin printer from 25-30 years
> ago to work with that new printer when the old 9 pin broke, so... ;-)
> 
> Anyway, regarding your question and the comment from Bret: I think you
> can do quite a bit with ESC/P, HP PCL and PostScript when you stick to
> basic feature sets, as those tend to be in the "common denominator" of
> things supported by different variants of said printer languages. You
> can check the FreeDOS GRAPHICS source codes for the general idea if
> you like, Bret :-)
> 
> The short story for printing text as graphics is as follows: You send
> some ESC sequence to initiate graphics mode, then you send a header
> sequence saying that N columns of pixel data follow and then you send
> the pixel data as either 1 or 3 bytes per column (8 or 24 pins used).
> 
> For 24 pins, you can either scale a VGA font, increase margins, or both,
> or design a special printer font. I think scaling 8x8 would be a bit
> pointless (can just use low quality 8 pin mode then, even 24 pin head
> printers support that) so I would either go for 8x16 and leave 8 pins
> unused (line spacing and thus papere movement per line of graphics are
> adjustable after all) or try to tweak-scale 8x14 to "ca 2 times 8x12".
> 
> For PostScript and HP PCL, the pixel data formats are different, but
> you can be very creative with PostScript anyway. Actually uploading
> a font might be a good choice for the latter, or turning the font to
> some sort of "rendering macro" that you would send as "header" before
> the text that you want to be printed.
> 
> As far as I remember, HP PCL pixel data was row oriented, so you send
> all pixels for one stripe of paper (e.g. as wide as suitable to print
> 80 characters if that is the output style you have in mind) at a time
> and the printer itself decides how to pool pixels to avoid having to
> move the print head too much. Usually it would flush the pool when a
> page gets full or no new data arrives for a certain amount of time.
> 
> Regards, Eric
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Code pages in dot-matrix printers

2011-05-04 Thread escape
Hello Henrique

I have an good-old dot-matrix printer, but unfortunately without any
manual. But I think it's not a big problem, as in-printer codepage can
be printed. Still I bet, that in this case there is only two options
possible: cp437 or some slight variation of cp866. I will send you
results as soon, as I can get some time to recover it from storage, set
it up and print-out ASCII-chart.


On 28.04.11 10:05, Henrique Peron wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> is there anyone out there which happens to have user guides/reference 
> manuals of those old dot-matrix printers?
> 
> If so, there are, in general, pages on those guides that show tables of 
> characters ("Code pages").
> 
> My e-mail address is hperon AT terra.com.br ; in case someone wants to 
> help me, I could be contacted through the e-mail address just informed.
> 
> The idea is to convert all useful info into new codepages for FreeDOS. 
> Let me mention two cases as examples: I've been looking (for a few years 
> already) for the description of codepages 854 and 776.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Henrique Peron
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Code pages in dot-matrix printers

2011-05-04 Thread escape
Hello Константин,

Please calm down a bit and do not deliver your personal and highly
subjective opinion as something common to everyone else.

On 28.04.11 11:59, Садовой Константин wrote:
> Hello Henrique. Sorry, but I do not know about dot matrix printers - it a 
> museum exponat only. This is a very old stuff to print the texts. You may buy 
> or grab from some office modern color inkjet or laser printer and use it, but 
> your dot matrix printer must be put into wasterbacket. Sorry, but I cannot 
> help you.
>> The idea is to convert all useful info into new codepages for FreeDOS.
>> Let me mention two cases as examples: I've been looking (for a few years
>> already) for the description of codepages 854 and 776.
> Codepages 854 and 776 is fictional - in the nature this codepages is not 
> exist. In the Internet I cannot be found about it not nor one glyphs.
> Very big thank for you for corrected by you UR.KL! It a easy and super! Thank 
> very mooch! New keyboard layout provide by you - UR.KL - is very easy and 
> comfortable. For newbie users writes on the russian and ukrainian, new layout 
> is more easy instead of previously variants. Ukrainian letter "И" находится 
> на месте on key named "Ы" in the russian layout, and letter "І" on the key 
> "И" on the russian layout. It very easy for newbies and professionals. Please 
> put UR.KL into the updated KEYBOARD.SYS in the FreeDOS.

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Re: [Freedos-user] New ukrainian keyboard layouts and codepages

2011-04-25 Thread escape
Hello Henrique,

Thanx for the great job! I really appreciate your efforts, but just FYI
I think, that I need to point a few moment you may be not aware of.
First: all keyboards, shipped to local market after about 2000 has same
physical layout, which is most close to 2019-91 (if you interested I can
send you some photos). There is still some slight variations in slashes
("/", "\") positioning and additional keyboard blocks (arrows,
pgup-pgdn-prtscrn and numeric), but main alpha-numeric keyboard is the
same. Microsoft standards
(http://www.microsoft.com/resources/msdn/goglobal/keyboards/kbdur.htm or
XP) may be considered "bugged", as there is no "Ё" letter in Ukrainan,
and many XP users installing custom layouts, self-made or downloaded
somwhere, which to the some degree resembles 2019-91, or, at least,
replaces "Ё" with "Ґ". Again, all this is just information, you may
consider useful or not so :). And it is always great to have more
variants than less.


On 25.04.11 12:00, Henrique Peron wrote:
> Hello Konstantyn, Escape - and all to whom it may concern,
> 
> I have just prepared and revised all ukrainian keyboard layouts, which, 
> as I have found on the web, are 5:
> 
> 1) The one which follows ukrainian standard 2019-91, as Konstantyn 
> Sadovoy explained to me. It provides "ґ/Ґ" at the left of <1>.
> 2) Windows XP standard. It provides "ё/Ё" at the left of <1> and "ґ/Ґ" 
> as +<Г> and, when using a 102-key keyboard, at the left of <Я>. 
> I've added the apostrophe as +<Є>.
> 3) Windows Vista standard. The differences between this one and layout 
> nº 2 are: The apostrophe and the hryvnia sign are at the left of <1> and 
> "ґ/Ґ" is at the left of <Я>. It is meant for 102-key keyboards only.
> 4) IBM-DOS standard (probably, MS-DOS standard as well). It provides 
> <`/+> at the left of <1>. All digits are in the second layer (i.e. 
>  is needed to access them).
> 5) IBM OS/2 Server for e-Business standard. Similar to layout nº 4. The 
> main difference is that "«/»" is at the right of "!/=".
> 
> All 5 layouts are meant to work with:
> 
> 1) Codepages for ukrainian: cp1125, cp848 (Euro sign instead of 
> international currency sign) and cp62565 (Hryvnia sign instead of 
> international currency sign).
> 
> 2) Codepages for russian: cp866, cp808 (Euro sign instead of 
> international currency sign) and cp63330 (Hryvnia sign instead of 
> international currency sign).
> 
> 3) Codepages for crimean tatar (when written with the latin alphabet): 
> cp857 (actually, the codepage for turkish, which provides the Euro sign) 
> and cp61273 (Hryvnia sign instead of Euro sign).
> All extra consonants for that language (as well as "â/Â") are found on 
>  + .
> "i/İ" is found at the left of <1>; the grave and tilde accents are still 
> found there, though  and  +  are needed. "ı/I" is 
> found on .
> "ö/Ö" is found on <[> and "ü/Ü" is found on <]>. Square and round 
> brackets are found on the same keys, though  and  + 
>  are needed.
> 
>  must be used to type the Euro or the Hryvnia signs. Locating 
> them should be intuitive. :-)
> 
> RUSCII codepage has been devised for FreeDOS (as "61541"); however, 
> since it changes nothing on the behaviour of any keyboard, it was not 
> included into the possible codepages to be used with any of them, so to 
> avoid inflating files unnecessarily. Therefore, it can be used to read 
> texts only,
> 
> Support for codepages 850, 858, 849 and 1131 have been dropped since it 
> made no sense to keep them - there's no support for western-european 
> languages (cp850, 858) or belarusian (cp849, 1131) on ukrainian keyboards.
> 
> I will now work on the documentation and probably release the new 
> keyboard and codepage packs by wednesday 27th.
> 
> Henrique Peron
> 
>   Em 23/4/2011 03:44, Садовой Константин escreveu:
>> Hello all. Dear Henrique. Previously thank from Ukraine nation for You for 
>> provide the Ukrainian national codepage for FreeDOS. The ukrainian keyboard 
>> layout is not changed, and so, it described in the RST 2019-91, and so equal 
>> to this:
>> Upper cased:
>> Ґ!"№;%:?*()_+/
>> ЙЦУКЕНГШЩЗХЇ
>> ФІВАПРОЛДЖЄ
>> ЯЧСМИТЬБЮ,
>> Lower cased:
>> ґ1234567890-=
>> йцукенгшщзхї
>> фівапролджє
>> ячсмитьбю.
>> So, I and all other ukrainian users do not needed the other keyboard layout. 
>> Thank for your proposition.
>>> Furthermore - Konstantin, please notice this - you said that RST 2018-91
>>> doesn't descri

Re: [Freedos-user] Some about correst codepage 1125 (Ukrainian)...

2011-04-21 Thread escape
Hello Henrique,

Yeah, DOS cyrillic encodings is hell of a mess (good article on topic,
you may already know, is http://czyborra.com/charsets/cyrillic.html).
The RUSCII.GIF is known as codepage number 1125 ie CP1125. And there is
some uncertainty about code points FAh & FBh. While some sources
suggests that there must be middle dot and square root - There is
article on wikipedia.org about different variants of DOS 866 code page -
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP1125 . It is in russian tough, but you
can search the page for "CP1125". You'll find that RUSCII.GIF is
actually a symbols chart for CP1125 as wikipedia means it. Other sources
suggests that there must be division sign and plus-minus sign - I found
this chart http://ascii-table.com/codepage.php?1125 but also it would be
interesting to have a look at the "IBM documentation", you mentioned.
And the best thing in this story, is that "Republic standard of Ukraine
RST 2018-91"
(http://www.terena.org/activities/multiling/koi8-u/ukrcod2018-91win.html) 
doesnt'
describe anything at all beyond code point F9h, so code points FAh-FFh
could look anything you like.



On 21.04.11 20:29, Henrique Peron wrote:
> Агов Константин,
> 
> I used IBM documentation as reference. I was not aware of a particular 
> RUSCII table which, by the way, seems not to follow major industry 
> standards. I've compared your RUSCII.GIF with the documentation I have 
> and I found two discrepancies:
> 
> * IBM documentation
> Code point FAh: division sign
> Code point FBh: plus-minus sign
> 
> * RUSCII.GIF
> Code point FAh: middle dot
> Code point FBh: square root
> 
> Two questions:
> 1) Did you find any other discrepancies?
> 2) Is there any other codepage number for which RUSCII.GIF is known?
> 
> Thanks,
> Henrique Peron
> 
> P.S.: You can contact me directly through the e-mail address found in 
> the codepage pack documentation if you wish.
> 
> 
> Em 21/4/2011 10:08, Садовой Константин escreveu:
>> Hello all. In the EGA4.CPX ukrainian codepage font files is ugly? Symbol 
>> table of codepage for 1125 (Ukrainian national standart, described in RST 
>> 2018-91), is not equalient to this standart. Symbol table, equaliented to 
>> Ukrainian national standart, is present this 
>> (http://porokhnyak.org/cyr/ruscii.gif) image, but it is not equal to symbol 
>> table from the EGA4.CPX from the CPI package of FreeDOS. In the old mail 
>> lists I founded the letter of Henrique Peron, dated of Fri, 07 Oct 2005 
>> 12:41:26, with subject: "Ukrainian language file" (this letter subject tree 
>> can be see in: 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg03628.html).
>>  Henrique wrote about use the symbols in the ukrainian codepage symbol table 
>> in the FreeDOS font for the codepage 1125. So, I see about FreeDOS CPI fonts 
>> for codepage 1125 is not equalient to ukrainian national standart 
>> description. Why?
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] How to install kernel XXXX?

2011-04-12 Thread escape
In fact problem with "freeware iso editor for windows" is surprisingly
long-lived one. Google can confirm. Just search for "freeware iso editor
for windows" and see thousands of threads with the same question and no
answers.

On 11.04.11 16:27, STF wrote:
>  For the record:
> * CDmage seems dead: its websites are not working any more
Strange, just checked and site is up and running. While CDmage itself
was last updated back in 2001, and it cannot replace files in image if
new file is bigger than one you going to replace, it's still one of the
most powerful freeware ISO editors for windows (that means that other
freeware is even more obscure). In any case here is direct links:
http://ftp.uevora.pt/pub/Mirrors/CDmage/CDmage1-02-1B5.rar
http://ftp.uevora.pt/pub/Mirrors/CDmage/CDmage1-01-5.exe

> * I've tried AVSDiscCreator 5.0.2.516, but as soon as I open
> fdbasecd.iso, I got the "The file system could not be extracted from
> the ISO-image." message
OK, lets move it to the list of crappy ones.

> * Visual-ISO ... well, I've tried but it doesn't seem to let me edit
> existing ISO images.
Visual-ISO is just a frontend to mkisofs, so you need to extract files
from existing ISO image first.
> 
>  So the sentence "install kernel " is easy to say, hard to achieve.
> 
>  Still waiting for answers...
You still got options like:
- make changes under Windows with some paid ISO editor
- make changes under Linux with Acetone ISO or ISOmaster
- make changes under whatever-OS-you-like with mkisofs in command line
-

> 
> 
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:03, escape  wrote:
>>> In fact there is appinfo directory with fdkernel.lsm packaged within
>>> those zips. So, I believe, there is a way to actually install it with
>>> fdupdate. But as for me, it is much more straightforward to just
>>> unzip\overwrite.
>>>
>>> As for ISO editor it depends on OS you're using. For building ISOs in
>>> DOS you can use mkisofs from cdrtools. For Linux there is AcetoneISO and
>>> ISO Master. For Windows there is tons of ISO editing soft, from crappy
>>> ones to power-tools like UltraISO or MagicISO. While most of it will
>>> cost you some money, there is still few freeware ones, most notable: AVS
>>> Disc Creator (http://www.avs4you.com/avs-disc-creator.aspx), Visual-ISO
>>> (http://dpaehl.dd6338.kasserver.com/cdr/visualiso.php) and of course
>>> CDmage (http://cdmage.orconhosting.net.nz/frames.html)
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Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-10 Thread escape


On 11.04.11 00:55, Scott wrote:
> "One estimate for 4K sector technology puts this at 100 bytes of ECC 
> data needed for a 4K sector, versus 320 (40x8) for 8 512B sectors.  

Yes, that's about 5% (5,37% to be exact) you'll gain from 4k sectors.
For 2Tb drive it will be equal to 100Gb of space. The question "Is 2,1Tb
so more capacious than 2,0Tb that we want to break compatibility?"

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Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-10 Thread escape


On 10.04.11 20:51, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
> I don't think I misread you.  But the market is geared to the current 
> problems, not the past problems.  For some strange reason people like 
> widescreen monitors even though most of our reading would benefit from 
> portrait monitors.
I'm agree with you, except that market is not geared to the problems.
Nor past nor current. Market is geared exclusively to the profit. So
while at past there was huge risks of making incompatible and thus
poorly sold product, now it's cheaper to resize sectors than research
magnetic recording technologies, because all current versions of major
OSes support 4k sector size.

> The current problem in the hard drive industry is 
> that 4KB sectors are more efficient for data storage because of the 
> nature of error correcting codes.
As I sad before "4k sector is not a bad idea alone", because all current
file systems have allocation unit size of 4k or even more. And of course
it's more efficient to store just one piece of error correcting codes
per 4K than for every 512 bytes. But on the other hand, stronger error
correction algorithms used more space for error correcting codes and
format efficiency gains resulting from the 4K sector structure range
from five to thirteen percent only. So while it might be considered as a
logical step forward, it is definitely not a silver bullet in storage
space advancement.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-10 Thread escape
Please get it right. I'm not arguing against support of new
technologies. But now it's often when manufacturers trying to disguise
cost cutting and marketing rubbish as prominent new technology.

Look at monitors as an example. Getting 16:10 aspect along with 4:3 was
not a bad idea. While for some tasks 4:3 was better, 16:10 was better
for others. But now 4:3 almost completely disappeared and 16:10 are
quietly supplanted by 16:9. And with 16:9 aspect you plainly get less
resolution (and thus less information displayed) for given diagonal and
money compared to 16:10. "Hey! They intended for watching movies!" But
was "Casablanca" or "The Maltese Falcon" shot in 16:9?

If not count for tons of potentially broken legacy software, 4k sector
is not a bad idea alone. But it became actual just now because
manufacturers lacks other "real" technologies for holding more user data
on same size platters. And 5 to 10 years down the road not only 512 byte
sectors, but whole idea of "precision mechanics that spins and wiggles
to remember something" may look "slightly" outdated. In fact it is
already looking so about few years, but for the moment we (of course
manufacturers at the first place), don't have any better solution than
to increase sector size.



On 10.04.11 17:43, Michael B. Brutman wrote:
> On 4/10/2011 5:20 AM, escape wrote:
>> Vote with your wallet. I'm personally not buying any 4k drives nor for
>> myself nor for companies I'm working for. When you need more than 2Tb of
>> space you always can add another 2Tb drive instead of replacing old
>> drive with bigger (3Tb) one.
> 
> I think that is a short term solution.  Eventually all new drives are 
> going to have 4KB sectors because it is easier to ship a standard 
> product.  5 to 10 years down the road 512 byte sectors will be a legacy 
> OS issue.
> 
> Look at vintage computers as an example.  I use DOS because that's what 
> my favorite, vintage machines support.  But finding old MFM hard drives 
> that still work is getting harder and harder as the years go on.  
> Eventually people decided it was time to find a more modern alternative, 
> and we wound up designing and creating an 8 bit IDE card that can use 
> LBA addressing.  That lets us put the larger (newer) IDE drives in 
> systems that were never designed for it.  In a few years we're going to 
> have to think about alternatives as the IDE drives die out.
> 
> FreeDOS will have to do the same.  Or you'll be stuck with antique 
> hardware, or running in a virtual environment instead.  (Which isn't all 
> that bad.)
> 
> Performance isn't much of an issue - if you really need the latest and 
> greatest in performance, you are probably not running single threaded 
> DOS apps. :-)
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-10 Thread escape
Vote with your wallet. I'm personally not buying any 4k drives nor for
myself nor for companies I'm working for. When you need more than 2Tb of
space you always can add another 2Tb drive instead of replacing old
drive with bigger (3Tb) one.

On 10.04.11 10:10, Scott wrote:
> One of the key things I'm thinking about is, independent of total space 
> on the drive, it looks like physical sector sizes larger than 512b may 
> be all that is available at some point in the not too distant future. Of 
> course the drives will continue to appear as 512b to OSs/apps that don't 
> know how to check for the underlying physical sector size.
> The problem is that there can be very significant performance penalties 
> to treating a disk with physical sector sizes of 4k as if they are 512b 
> due to potential read/modify/write actions needed when write operations 
> cross physical sector boundaries. Reads can also see a hit if they are 
> unnecessarily crossing those boundaries as well.
> Making sure to partition on 4k boundaries certainly is critical, but 
> does not in itself fix the underlying issue.
> 
> Not that I'm calling for a ground-up re-write of the OS, just wondering 
> what people have planned when actual 512b physical sector disks become 
> unavailable.
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] How to install kernel XXXX?

2011-04-10 Thread escape
In fact there is appinfo directory with fdkernel.lsm packaged within
those zips. So, I believe, there is a way to actually install it with
fdupdate. But as for me, it is much more straightforward to just
unzip\overwrite.

As for ISO editor it depends on OS you're using. For building ISOs in
DOS you can use mkisofs from cdrtools. For Linux there is AcetoneISO and
ISO Master. For Windows there is tons of ISO editing soft, from crappy
ones to power-tools like UltraISO or MagicISO. While most of it will
cost you some money, there is still few freeware ones, most notable: AVS
Disc Creator (http://www.avs4you.com/avs-disc-creator.aspx), Visual-ISO
(http://dpaehl.dd6338.kasserver.com/cdr/visualiso.php) and of course
CDmage (http://cdmage.orconhosting.net.nz/frames.html)

On 08.04.11 18:25, STF wrote:
>  OK, thanks.  I see, so "install the kernel" is just actually
> simply "replace the kernel.sys file".  He could have said this in
> simple words.
> 
>  I'm just using the official live CD provided in the website.
> What ISO editor do you advise?
> 
>  TIA
> 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 20:50, escape  wrote:
>> Hello
>> Unfortunately links on official FreeDOS site are broken. But you still
>> can download from ibiblio. You can find all available kernels at
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/ .
>> Direct links for 2038 is
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-fat16-binary.zip
>> or
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-fat32-binary.zip
>> . After downloading unzip the archive and copy just unzipped kernel.sys
>> to the root directory of C: (or corresponding letter of your system
>> partition) overwriting old one.
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Re: [Freedos-user] How to install kernel XXXX?

2011-04-07 Thread escape
Hello
Unfortunately links on official FreeDOS site are broken. But you still
can download from ibiblio. You can find all available kernels at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/ .
Direct links for 2038 is
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-fat16-binary.zip
or
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-fat32-binary.zip
. After downloading unzip the archive and copy just unzipped kernel.sys
to the root directory of C: (or corresponding letter of your system
partition) overwriting old one.

On 07.04.11 15:04, STF wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  In a previous mail, dos386 suggested me "FreeDOS manually using
> latest components (kernel 2038)".
> 
>  I've done some Google search on "freedos kernel 2038", "freedos
> install kernel", etc and also used "install kernel" in Freedos's web
> site's search function.  But I can't find the procedure to install
> kernel .
> 
>  Could someone tell me how we are supposed to do this?
> 
>  TIA
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos Network LAN (Shared files)

2011-02-09 Thread escape
There is comprehensive guide to networking in FreeDOS at
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS


In short - you need MS Client. Also tere is version of samba for dos:
ftp://ru54.com/distrib/DOS/Samba4dos!/


On 09.02.11 13:44, Guan de dio wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
>I'm a new user of FreeDOS OS. 
>I need to make work the lan for shared files (with WinXP, Vista and
> Win7). Currently I'm working into a VMware for test the possibilities of
> this operative system. I have configured the netcard using arachne, but
> I don't find the application for shared files. 
> 
> Any suggestion ?
> 
> Thanks in advances, 
> GUAN
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 415 FreeDos1.44Boot Floppy (Eric Auer)

2011-01-19 Thread escape
Hi Eric!

Try to set "mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed" option to false in
Thunderbird Config editor

On 18.01.11 21:44, Eric Auer wrote:

> Now that we are talking about problematic quoting anyway: Thunderbird
> recently started trying to be TOO smart when I edit mails. Weeks ago,
> I could type the following to quote something:
> 
>  > To be or not to be
> 
> But recently, Thunderbird tries to "help" me and puts a space in
> front of the ">" to deliberately degrade it from a quote prefix
> into an ordinary ">" sign. Can anybody tell me how I can switch
> back to the classic way where it is MY choice where to put ">",
> even if that means that it is MY choice how to "create" quotes?
> 
> Thanks :-)
> 
> Eric
> 
> PS: For demonstration purposes, I removed the ">" in front of
> the "Robert Riebisch" line and re-added it, maybe breaking it.
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[Freedos-user] fdupdate problem

2010-08-01 Thread escape

Hello everyone,
I've installed FreeDOS a long time ago but still can't solve problem 
with fdupdate. Every time I run it, it downloads list of updates, but 
then gives out input output error. And despite its message 
"fdupdate.tab' saved" actually no files saved and no updates made.


I've attached fdupdate output, in case if inline formatting is broken 
for someone.




C:\FREEDOS\BIN>FDUPDATE.EXE

FreeDOS Updater v0.54 Copyright (C) Mateusz Viste 2008

Downloader: wget
Update server: http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/fdupdate
Checking installed packages... Done.
Retrieving the remote packages list...
--16:11:15--  http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/fdupdate/fdupdate.tab
   => `C:\FREEDOS\TEMP\fdupdate.tab'
Resolving www.viste-family.net... done.
Connecting to www.viste-family.net[82.225.72.113]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5,688

100%[>] 5,688 19.84K/sETA 00:00

utime(C:\FREEDOS\TEMP\fdupdate.tab): Input or output error (EIO)
16:11:17 (19.84 KB/s) - `C:\FREEDOS\TEMP\fdupdate.tab' saved [5688/5688]


Finished.  0 package(s) have been updated.


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C:\FREEDOS\BIN>FDUPDATE.EXE 

FreeDOS Updater v0.54 Copyright (C) Mateusz Viste 2008  

Downloader: wget
Update server: http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/fdupdate 
Checking installed packages... Done.
Retrieving the remote packages list...  
--16:11:15--  http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/fdupdate/fdupdate.tab 
   => `C:\FREEDOS\TEMP\fdupdate.tab'
Resolving www.viste-family.net... done. 
Connecting to www.viste-family.net[82.225.72.113]:80... connected.  
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK  
Length: 5,688   

100%[>] 5,688 19.84K/sETA 00:00 

utime(C:\FREEDOS\TEMP\fdupdate.tab): Input or output error (EIO)
16:11:17 (19.84 KB/s) - `C:\FREEDOS\TEMP\fdupdate.tab' saved [5688/5688]


Finished.  0 package(s) have been updated.  
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