[Freedos-user] Shared Folders not allowed in VirtualBox FreeDOS?
Hello Friends My host is a linux OS. I think I have successfully installed FreeDOS in VirtualBox. When the virtual FreeDOS is running, I want to be able to access my USB flash drive as well as a Windows partition on the physical hard drive. I assume this is not possible? Thank you for your time. Kaye ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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UPDATE It seems it installed in the USB installer itself! On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:06 PM kaye n wrote: > Thank you David and Jerome. > > I used my Linux operating system's Unetbootin to create the FreeDOS USB > installer. > > It failed to boot. So I logged back in to my Linux, created a boot flag > for the USB flash drive using GParted. > > It booted. > > There was a blue screen and I had only "Default" to choose from. Or I had > to press tab for more options. I chose default, no options about what > partition to install into, but it > installed without problems, although it took awhile, maybe 20 minutes. > > I logged back in to the Linux OS, executed this in terminal: > > sudo update-grub > > FreeDOS did not appear as one of the operating systems to choose from. > > I opened GParted and saw that the 1GB (that's one GB) fat32 partition of > the hard drive was empty (only 1.03MB was used). File Manager also shows > that the fat32 partition was empty. > > So where did FreeDOS installed to? Did it even install at all? > > Thank you for your time! > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 7:52 PM Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> On Mac, Linux & BSD, you can simply use the dd command line utility. >> Windows will require additional software. >> >> On *nix, if you’re USB drive is /dev/sdg then something like the >> following will do it: >> >> su umount /dev/sdg* >> su dd if=FD12FULL.img of=/dev/sdg >> >> Just make sure you write to the USB device and not you hard disk. >> >> > On Aug 19, 2019, at 6:43 AM, David McMackins >> wrote: >> > >> > vmdk is a virtual machine image for VMWare. You want to use the img >> > file. Use a disk imaging software to image your drive using the img file >> > as the image. >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > David E. McMackins II >> > www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com >> > >> >> On 8/19/19 5:39 AM, kaye n wrote: >> >> Hello Friends >> >> >> >> In http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page >> >> >> >> It says, >> >> *If your computer doesn't have a CDROM drive,* use the USB fob drive >> >> installer. Write this to a USB fob drive and boot it to start the >> >> install. The "Full" and "Lite" versions install the same FreeDOS, but >> >> the "Lite" installer does not contain some extra bonus software >> packages. >> >> >> >> How exactly do I do that? The file FD12FULL.zip contains three files: >> >> FD12FULL.img >> >> FD12FULL.vmdk >> >> README.md >> >> >> >> Do I just unzip these three to the USB flash drive and boot into the >> USB >> >> drive? >> >> I tried it and it didn't work. >> >> >> >> Sorry for my ignorance. >> >> Thank you for your time. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Freedos-user mailing list >> >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Freedos-user mailing list >> > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Thank you David and Jerome. I used my Linux operating system's Unetbootin to create the FreeDOS USB installer. It failed to boot. So I logged back in to my Linux, created a boot flag for the USB flash drive using GParted. It booted. There was a blue screen and I had only "Default" to choose from. Or I had to press tab for more options. I chose default, no options about what partition to install into, but it installed without problems, although it took awhile, maybe 20 minutes. I logged back in to the Linux OS, executed this in terminal: sudo update-grub FreeDOS did not appear as one of the operating systems to choose from. I opened GParted and saw that the 1GB (that's one GB) fat32 partition of the hard drive was empty (only 1.03MB was used). File Manager also shows that the fat32 partition was empty. So where did FreeDOS installed to? Did it even install at all? Thank you for your time! On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 7:52 PM Jerome Shidel wrote: > On Mac, Linux & BSD, you can simply use the dd command line utility. > Windows will require additional software. > > On *nix, if you’re USB drive is /dev/sdg then something like the following > will do it: > > su umount /dev/sdg* > su dd if=FD12FULL.img of=/dev/sdg > > Just make sure you write to the USB device and not you hard disk. > > > On Aug 19, 2019, at 6:43 AM, David McMackins > wrote: > > > > vmdk is a virtual machine image for VMWare. You want to use the img > > file. Use a disk imaging software to image your drive using the img file > > as the image. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > David E. McMackins II > > www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com > > > >> On 8/19/19 5:39 AM, kaye n wrote: > >> Hello Friends > >> > >> In http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > >> > >> It says, > >> *If your computer doesn't have a CDROM drive,* use the USB fob drive > >> installer. Write this to a USB fob drive and boot it to start the > >> install. The "Full" and "Lite" versions install the same FreeDOS, but > >> the "Lite" installer does not contain some extra bonus software > packages. > >> > >> How exactly do I do that? The file FD12FULL.zip contains three files: > >> FD12FULL.img > >> FD12FULL.vmdk > >> README.md > >> > >> Do I just unzip these three to the USB flash drive and boot into the USB > >> drive? > >> I tried it and it didn't work. > >> > >> Sorry for my ignorance. > >> Thank you for your time. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Freedos-user mailing list > >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] (no subject)
Hello Friends In http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page It says, *If your computer doesn't have a CDROM drive,* use the USB fob drive installer. Write this to a USB fob drive and boot it to start the install. The "Full" and "Lite" versions install the same FreeDOS, but the "Lite" installer does not contain some extra bonus software packages. How exactly do I do that? The file FD12FULL.zip contains three files: FD12FULL.img FD12FULL.vmdk README.md Do I just unzip these three to the USB flash drive and boot into the USB drive? I tried it and it didn't work. Sorry for my ignorance. Thank you for your time. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] why isn't anyone answering my question?
Jim Hall
I have several issues with using the Clipper program directly from the C:
drive.
1. Unzipping everything (459 files) to the C: drive took awhile.
2. It appears to be a bit slower than if I ran the clipper program in a
Command Prompt of a real Windows 7 32-bit system (not virtual Windows), or
even in a virtual Windows.
3. If I will use the program in the C: drive, does that mean everything is
just an image? What if I need to edit a certain .dbf file in LibreOffice
Calc so I can save it as an xlsx file? I'm sure there's a way to do it but
it wouldn't be easy.
4. Although I was able to get inside the program and do some tasks, there
was a certain task that resulted in a hang (I tried to delete a record).
Hence, solving 1 to 3 does not matter because the program still hangs. (Or
maybe it's a permission issue? I'll check)
Oh well.
5. By the way, is the line: -drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos
still correct if the hard drive partition that I want to access is already
a fat (fat32) partition?
6. Your line: -drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos
gives me this error:
WARNING: Image format was not specified for 'json:{"fat-type": 0, "dir":
"/media/FAT", "driver": "vvfat", "floppy": false, "rw": true}' and probing
guessed raw.
Automatically detecting the format is dangerous for raw images,
write operations on block 0 will be restricted.
Specify the 'raw' format explicitly to remove the restrictions.
So I had to add:
format=raw
Am I right to do that? Forgive my stupidity I am not an expert.
If you could comment on all 6 issues I would greatly appreciated, thank you
very much!
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 2:16 AM Jim Hall wrote:
> I haven't used Clipper so I'll have to let someone else debug that one for
> you.
>
> However, I *sometimes* have had problems running programs that require a
> lot of I/O from the mapped drive. Not sure if QEMU just gets confused with
> a lot of I/O on the mapped drive, because it's basically emulating a FAT
> drive over a directory. Maybe that's the cause of the hang here?
>
> You might try copying (with XCOPY) the program files from the mapped drive
> to your C: drive, and run it from the C: drive. (Another way to do this is
> to put everything into a zip file, then just use UNZIP to extract that zip
> file onto your C: drive.)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:22 PM kaye n wrote:
>
>> Jim Hall, thanks a lot for suggesting QEMU. I added a line similar to
>> your
>>
>> -drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos
>>
>> and I was able to access the desired directory in an NTFS partition of
>> the hard drive.
>>
>> However, in that directory is an old Clipper program and I could not get
>> it to run in the virtual Freedos.
>>
>> In drive C: there is an autoexec.bat and an fdconfig.sys file.
>>
>> I edited autoexec.bat by adding this line:
>> SET CLIPPER=F99
>>
>> and I edited fdconfig.sys by adding this line:
>> FILES=99
>>
>> It hanged and I had to close the QEMU window by clicking the X at the
>> upper right corner of the screen.
>>
>> PS: I don't know which key to press for firing my weapon in the Freedos
>> game Wing.
>>
>> Thank you for your time and thank you for making Freedos!
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:23 PM Jim Hall wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. My answer is in 2 parts:
>>>
>>> 1. FreeDOS cannot read NTFS. FreeDOS can read variations of the FAT
>>> filesystem, including FAT32. But cannot read NTFS or extfs.
>>>
>>> 2. An operating system running inside a PC emulator like VirtualBox
>>> cannot access the direct hardware of the machine. It can only access the
>>> virtual machine resources. So you cannot access the Linux disk directly, in
>>> this case.
>>>
>>> Most PC emulators have some way to make a directory (such as your Linux
>>> $HOME directory and/or a directory like /mount/ntfs) available to the guest
>>> operating system (FreeDOS) and make it look like a FAT drive. For example,
>>> I use QEMU and I make a directory called "dos" in my Linux $HOME available
>>> to FreeDOS *as though it were the D: drive* using this command line
>>> option:
>>> -drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos
>>>
>>> But I don't use VirtualBox, so I don't know how to do it there. I'm sure
>>> there's a menu item for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:43 AM kaye n wrote:
>>>
>>>> My apologies. Wrong choice of words. I am aware that this is not a
>>>> paid support line.
>>>>
>>>&g
Re: [Freedos-user] why isn't anyone answering my question?
Jim Hall, thanks a lot for suggesting QEMU. I added a line similar to your -drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos and I was able to access the desired directory in an NTFS partition of the hard drive. However, in that directory is an old Clipper program and I could not get it to run in the virtual Freedos. In drive C: there is an autoexec.bat and an fdconfig.sys file. I edited autoexec.bat by adding this line: SET CLIPPER=F99 and I edited fdconfig.sys by adding this line: FILES=99 It hanged and I had to close the QEMU window by clicking the X at the upper right corner of the screen. PS: I don't know which key to press for firing my weapon in the Freedos game Wing. Thank you for your time and thank you for making Freedos! On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:23 PM Jim Hall wrote: > Hi. My answer is in 2 parts: > > 1. FreeDOS cannot read NTFS. FreeDOS can read variations of the FAT > filesystem, including FAT32. But cannot read NTFS or extfs. > > 2. An operating system running inside a PC emulator like VirtualBox cannot > access the direct hardware of the machine. It can only access the virtual > machine resources. So you cannot access the Linux disk directly, in this > case. > > Most PC emulators have some way to make a directory (such as your Linux > $HOME directory and/or a directory like /mount/ntfs) available to the guest > operating system (FreeDOS) and make it look like a FAT drive. For example, > I use QEMU and I make a directory called "dos" in my Linux $HOME available > to FreeDOS *as though it were the D: drive* using this command line > option: > -drive file=fat:rw:/home/jhall/dos > > But I don't use VirtualBox, so I don't know how to do it there. I'm sure > there's a menu item for it. > > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:43 AM kaye n wrote: > >> My apologies. Wrong choice of words. I am aware that this is not a paid >> support line. >> >> Anyway, here's my question. >> >> I have a desktop computer running a Linux distro. In this LInux distro I >> have installed VirtualBox, and in this VirtualBox I have installed Freedos. >> >> The virtual Freedos is running fine. However I can't figure out a way to >> allow the virtual Freedos to access the different partitions of the hard >> drive (for example an NTFS partition that contains my personal data), as >> well as any USB flash drive. >> >> Is this impossible if the Freedos installation is only virtual? >> >> Thank you for your time. >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:34 PM HTV04 . wrote: >> >>> What’s your question? >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:30 AM kaye n wrote: >>> >>>> Hello? Anyone there? >>>> >>> >> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] why isn't anyone answering my question?
By the way, I emailed my question to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net about two days ago. Isn't that the address where I can send questions to? Many thanks. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:34 PM HTV04 . wrote: > What’s your question? > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:30 AM kaye n wrote: > >> Hello? Anyone there? >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > -- > Sincerely, > HTV04 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] why isn't anyone answering my question?
My apologies. Wrong choice of words. I am aware that this is not a paid support line. Anyway, here's my question. I have a desktop computer running a Linux distro. In this LInux distro I have installed VirtualBox, and in this VirtualBox I have installed Freedos. The virtual Freedos is running fine. However I can't figure out a way to allow the virtual Freedos to access the different partitions of the hard drive (for example an NTFS partition that contains my personal data), as well as any USB flash drive. Is this impossible if the Freedos installation is only virtual? Thank you for your time. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:34 PM HTV04 . wrote: > What’s your question? > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:30 AM kaye n wrote: > >> Hello? Anyone there? >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > -- > Sincerely, > HTV04 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] why isn't anyone answering my question?
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