Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-03 Thread Johnson Lam
On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:48:04 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Mark,

>Thanks very much.  I'll have Steve try to trace the problem.
>I am rather DOS illiterate, I'm afraid.  What do you mean by
>"Will the SCSI base address conflict?"  Do you think the BIOS
>grabs some high memory that emm386 might affect?  The
>current fdconfig.sys loads emm386 without any options:

SCSI usually use base address 0x330, I've experience failure when
putting too much peripherals cards into the chassis.

Maybe Steve can try changing the address, and see if the error
happening again.

>device=emm386.exe
>
>Thanks for your help.

try:

device=himem.sys
device=emm386.exe noems x=test
stacks=9,256

if still not working, try FDXXMS.SYS + UMBPCI.SYS.

Sorry but no more QHIMEM for test.


Rgds,
Johnson.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Devore

At 09:07 PM 5/3/2006 -0400, you wrote:


Steve tells me it works without emm386 loaded, but fails with
X=test and NOVDS.  Is there any way to debug this remotely?


Separately fails with each option, or just together?  No remote debugging 
that low-level on DOS.  Looks like he might have one of those elusive SCSI 
machines I've been trying to track down, though.






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Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Bailey



Michael Devore wrote:

At 04:48 PM 5/3/2006 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:

Thanks very much.  I'll have Steve try to trace the problem. I am
rather DOS illiterate, I'm afraid.  What do you mean by "Will the
SCSI base address conflict?"  Do you think the BIOS grabs some high
memory that emm386 might affect?  The current fdconfig.sys loads
emm386 without any options:

device=emm386.exe


I do not recommend a no-option approach if there are any problems 
suspected or flagrant.  At a minimum the X=TEST option should be 
present.  You can also try NOVDS in case there is a SCSI conflict.




Hello, all:

Steve tells me it works without emm386 loaded, but fails with
X=test and NOVDS.  Is there any way to debug this remotely?

Mark



Mark,

Some encouraging news for a change.

The machine boots to c: if i REM out the device=emm386.exe line in
fdconfig.sys.

I tried device=emm386.exe X=TEST and device=emm386.exe X=TEST NOVDS
in fdconfig.sys but got the same boot error as before.

I'm not a DOS expert by any means, but I recall something about
extended memory manager and I suppose that's what emm386 must be.

Where do I go from here? Can I live without emm386?

Thanks for sticking with me on this.

Steve K8JQ




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Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Devore

At 04:48 PM 5/3/2006 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:

Thanks very much.  I'll have Steve try to trace the problem.
I am rather DOS illiterate, I'm afraid.  What do you mean by
"Will the SCSI base address conflict?"  Do you think the BIOS
grabs some high memory that emm386 might affect?  The
current fdconfig.sys loads emm386 without any options:

device=emm386.exe


I do not recommend a no-option approach if there are any problems suspected 
or flagrant.  At a minimum the X=TEST option should be present.  You can 
also try NOVDS in case there is a SCSI conflict.





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Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Bailey

Hi Johnson:

Thanks very much.  I'll have Steve try to trace the problem.
I am rather DOS illiterate, I'm afraid.  What do you mean by
"Will the SCSI base address conflict?"  Do you think the BIOS
grabs some high memory that emm386 might affect?  The
current fdconfig.sys loads emm386 without any options:

device=emm386.exe

Thanks for your help.

Mark

Johnson Lam wrote:

On Wed, 03 May 2006 08:36:06 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Mark,

Booting FreeDOS with kernel version 1.1.35 gives me the following 8 line error 
message at the bottom of the screen when the boot process fails:


Can you ask Steve press F8 and trace line by line?
Or this happened before FreeDOS 2 sec pause?
Will the SCSI base address conflict?


Rgds,
Johnson.





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Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-03 Thread Johnson Lam
On Wed, 03 May 2006 08:36:06 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Mark,

>Booting FreeDOS with kernel version 1.1.35 gives me the following 8 line error 
>message at the bottom of the screen when the boot process fails:

Can you ask Steve press F8 and trace line by line?
Or this happened before FreeDOS 2 sec pause?
Will the SCSI base address conflict?


Rgds,
Johnson.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Bailey

Hi Michael:

I will have Steve try removing himem.exe/emm386.exe from
config.sys and running "naked.".  He is not very
knowledgeable about DOS and I don't have a SCSI computer,
so this may be a slow process.

He says he is seeing the following:

-

Booting FreeDOS with kernel version 1.1.35 gives me the following 8 line error 
message at the bottom of the screen when the boot process fails:


Illegal Instruction occurred
CS=14C2 IP= SS=14C2 SP=01DC DS= ES=0AEC
EAX=8826 EBX=00760011 ECX= EDX=01F6
ESI= EDI= EBP=01F8
Opcodes @CS:IP 00 FE A2 9D 01 89 EC 5D
Aborting program
Bad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256
 Enter the full shell command line:

At that prompt I tried entering a:command.com and a:\command.com and got the 
"Bad or missing Command Interpreter /  Enter the full shell command line" error 
message.


Ditto for d:command.com and d:\command.com.

Entering c:command.com or c:\command.com produces the 8 lines noted above.

-

So, it looks like C: is being recognized...

THanks for your help!

Mark


Michael Devore wrote:

At 09:04 PM 5/2/2006 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:


Bad or missing Command Interpreter
Enter the full shell command line:
command.com /P /E:256

The development kernel fixed the "Error in the DJ mechanism!" but still
doesn't find the shell.  Any suggestions?  Is there a problem with SCSI
drives?


Does it successfully boot "naked" without memory managers loaded?




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Re: [Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-02 Thread Michael Devore

At 09:04 PM 5/2/2006 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:


Bad or missing Command Interpreter
Enter the full shell command line:
command.com /P /E:256

The development kernel fixed the "Error in the DJ mechanism!" but still
doesn't find the shell.  Any suggestions?  Is there a problem with SCSI
drives?


Does it successfully boot "naked" without memory managers loaded?




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[Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from a SCSI Hard Drive

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Bailey

Good day, all:

Steve is trying to use my dual-boot procedure on a computer with a SCSI
hard drive.  The repartitioning went fine, as did the installation of
FreeDOS.  The installation was done with the "SYS" command booted from
CD.  When he first tried booting from the hard drive, he got this error:

Error in the DJ mechanism!
Error in the DJ mechanism!
IO error: cylinder 1023

Bad or missing Command Interpreter
Enter the full shell command line:
command.com /P /E:256

The development kernel fixed the "Error in the DJ mechanism!" but still
doesn't find the shell.  Any suggestions?  Is there a problem with SCSI
drives?

Thanks.

Mark Bailey



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